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i'd say in 1871 with the unification of Germany. |
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call me crazy... but 1901 is my guess. |
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so it's that simple. |
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glad I could help |
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1919 |
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why 1919? |
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versailles? |
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the 20th century can only be from 1901-2000 because, where using a number based system. Therefor, the years that comprise the 20th century, can only be the years that actually take place in the 20th century. Now, if you want to go into different names (ie. Renissance or some similiar term) then ok, because its not a numerical based system of definition, and can start at any point in time. But the 20th century is specific recorded dates |
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uh... 1901? maybe I don't understand the question... |
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one can't consider the twentieth century outside of numbers? as in a "twentieth century way of thinking" or a "twentieth century idea" this is just semantics. i mean take wwI and II these pretty much define the first half of the 2oth c. but what started it all? and again, i say the unification of Germany in 1871. |
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the rise of nationalism(Germany, Italy, Austria-Hungary) Id modern politics started with Metternich's council and the "balance of power", while at the same make weaker third world countries weak, and dispute over boundaries, therefore keeping the original states in control over the world. |
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bah...you're right. in other news, who cares? |
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the only reason you are using the term 20th century is because historians havnt come up with a term for the time period. No one called the Renissance "The Renissance" when they where living in it. Historians called it that later. |
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i'm glad you relaize that, so we should agree that whenever the period we are talking about began is debable. when woud you say it began? |
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debatable |
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id probably say, the start of WWI but then again, im no historian |
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well actually they have come up with terms... the Modern and Post-Modern ages... and while those terms aren't entirely faulty... there is a peculiar unity between them the hasn't been fully iterated yet... i say 1919... because the aftermath of world war I left a world full of people whose conceptions of humanity had been completely destroyed... |
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modern and post modern are terms that will change i mean, people living in 2058 will call their music modern... not post post post post post post post post post modern |
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yeah but the aftermath was just that an "aftermath," a result. The cause could be 1871,no? |
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or you could just call 1871 a precursor, or transitional period |
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the twentieth century will start in the year 3985. we've started counting since I was born in 1984. read the neo-bible |
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1901 |
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well if you're thinking that way... why don't you just cite the big bang as the beginning of the 20th century? obviously it couldn't have happened without it... i reject the idea that the world in 1871 bore any resemblance to the one we found in 1919... as for the modern-post-modern tangent: it's hard to gauge whether or not the term will become elastic and refer to anything new, in light of the fact that we've only lived within the context of the modern world... i'd say that if people in 2058 call there music modern, then they've been lazy about labeling these things... one of the main reasons why we're still calling new things modern is that popular culture is completely divorced from many many of the ideas being forwarded by the intellectual sphere of our society... if this continues... than i suppose they may as well keep the term modern... but i think people are slowly starting to understand these things |
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i see your point. so for you the end of wwI began an era distinct from all else. makes sense... the war was the first modern war and the effects were obviously astronomical. therefore the new period began because the after effects of the war started or stopped ways of thinking. |
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yeah, and I think its also when people began to realise that the world is much smaller... what happened in germany was effecting people in the US and etc... (yeah, i mean, obviously... WORLD war) but yeah... |
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oh, and there will most definately be a 3rd world war |
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what do you mean? dont say that |
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sorry... but I beleive it firmly |
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it has to happen... and i think it will wipe out humanity as we understand it... it's a question of sooner or later... |
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yeah... but just because there will be a 3rd world war... doesnt mean it HAS to wipe us out i think that is inevitable... but I think it could possibly be avoided alittle longer... maybe like world war 4 or 5 or something |
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you think this guy could be responsible for it? |
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