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Senate Votes to Ban Partial Birth Procedure
 

offline mimi on 2003-10-21 23:02 [#00913144]
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http://www.msnbc.com/news/983016.asp

I find it incredibly disgusting that this bill was passed
with no exceptions regarding risks to the women's health...


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-10-21 23:04 [#00913146]
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"no exceptions regarding risks to the women's health..."

WTF!?!?!?

I HATE CONSERVATIVESSSSSpuhsdfbhsdofibjsdfoibhjoxvbixvbb


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2003-10-21 23:05 [#00913147]
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I'm sure it will be appealed.


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-10-21 23:06 [#00913149]
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church wins huh


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-10-21 23:10 [#00913151]
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not likely


 

offline vio on 2003-10-21 23:12 [#00913152]
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'tarded.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-10-22 00:36 [#00913195]
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Well if girls wouldn't give it out so easy maybe they
wouldn't get pregnant.

(this comment is based on experience)


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-10-22 00:37 [#00913199]
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well, if women werent objectified, and made to feel that the
only way they will be loved, is if they put out, then they
wouldnt give it out so easy


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-22 00:42 [#00913204]
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maybe if guys would adopt some kind of standards...


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-10-22 00:44 [#00913205]
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maybe if guys got laid more, they wouldnt fuck the first
thing that moved

but I think that just creates a paradox 0_o


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-22 00:47 [#00913208]
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well, either way, there are always these handy abortion
devices


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offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-10-22 01:33 [#00913242]
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it's not women, it's not men... anyone who acts like a
fucking tool in a piece of shit throw-away society like ours
has them name on the marquee as far as who is to blame...
there might be some costars... but it's there name up in the
bright lights....

in any case... america frightens me... here's lookin' at
reason # 7562


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-10-22 01:34 [#00913244]
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holy spelling errors batman... makes me look all
educated-like


 

offline mimi on 2003-10-22 10:00 [#00913830]
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this ban doesnt really attack women who dont want to carry
through with the pregnancy, it attacks women who are at risk
healthwise because of it.


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-10-22 10:03 [#00913832]
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hehe

paradox


 

offline uzim on 2003-10-22 10:09 [#00913834]
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=/


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-10-22 10:44 [#00913861]
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that seems like it would be quite messy


 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-10-22 10:50 [#00913864]
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Somebody go knock up the senates 12year old daughter and see
what he thinks then


 

offline Cfern from Sacto (United States) on 2003-10-22 11:10 [#00913882]
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you guys think 8 month old fetuses should be aborted? i
don't think so...thats pretty fucked up


 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2003-10-22 11:23 [#00913888]
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"partial birth" abortions are fucked up.
abortions arent partial birth abortions, partial birth
abortions are really walking the thin line between abortion
and killing babies, even for someone who supports abortion
rights.


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-10-22 11:31 [#00913899]
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hmm id love to say that all of the above is true but the
tone is not right


 

offline Cfern from Sacto (United States) on 2003-10-22 11:42 [#00913913]
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exactly i support abortion...but not this


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-10-22 11:46 [#00913921]
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**FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW**


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-10-22 11:49 [#00913925]
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admittidly, I didnt know the details behind partial birth
abortions...

but now that I do, I still think, if a womans life is in
risk, then she should have the right... otherwise I dont see
how anyone could go through with that... it really is like
killing babies...

and... isnt there a... uh... less brutal way to do it? crack
the skull open, and suck out its brains? wtf?


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-10-22 11:52 [#00913930]
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Brutal is right my friend! I think the whole act of this
procedure is dispicable and inhumane


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-10-22 11:56 [#00913932]
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Im totally prochoice...

but I just dont see how a woman, could lie there, while the
doctor pulls her baby out, cracks its skull, and sucks its
brains out.

I mean, its not a pleasent thing to do, even if it wasnt
brutal... like, I dont know... injecting it with
something... I dont know... im not a doctor, so I dont know
the options or lack there of....

but have the babies head cracked open, and its brain sucked
out (while inside of the woman mind you) is insane!

But if a woman will die, then its an unfortunate, yet
nessasary procedure


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-10-22 12:00 [#00913936]
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I would like to find more information about the reasons that
this would be even considered.

With modern technology/medicine as it is today you would
think such a procedure would be unnecessary


 

offline uzim on 2003-10-22 12:11 [#00913940]
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what is really fucked is that this kind of case exists. why
would you wait, or what would force you to wait until the
baby is almost born to get an abortion?!! THIS is fucked.
°_°


 

offline uzim on 2003-10-22 12:19 [#00913947]
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i am pro choice too, abortion is already traumatizing enough
for women i think it would be unfair to not leave them the
choice... but when it comes that far, when the baby is
already formed and almost born, being against that is
understandable...

it depends on the cases i guess... but if you CAN do it
earlier, i think you must.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2003-10-22 12:20 [#00913949]
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FUCK YEAH, the world doesnt need more human waste. PROCHOICE
is "A OKAY" !


 

offline uzim on 2003-10-22 12:20 [#00913950]
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this said i totally agree with what mimi said.


 

offline mimi on 2003-10-22 16:48 [#00914186]
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and now for the other side of things (well if you're going
to link to the national right to life, you should realize
there's QUITE a bias there...)

http://www.korrnet.org/choicetn/LateTermSmith3.html


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2003-10-22 17:02 [#00914190]
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Abortion is horrible. Even if there is a health risk for
the mother one life does not cancel out another. It would
be better for a woman to sacrifice herself, if that is what
has to happen, than to murder her own child to save herself.
BTW I don't know what is up with the "church wins" comment,
but it was pretty offensive. If one understands the human
process it is pretty simple cause and effect .. male and
female join together and a baby is made. There are ways to
prevent it but they aren't 100%. ABORTION AS A LAST RESORT
FORM OF CONTRACEPTION IS EVIL. If you sleep with someone,
be aware of the possibility of having a child with them and
raising it together.


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2003-10-22 17:04 [#00914191]
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if it didn't get through, btw, my vote is pro life.


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2003-10-22 17:05 [#00914193]
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too much of a misanthorpist here...i say that abortion
shouldn't be illegal. TOOOO many fuck'tards on the world.
Yeah, i want yet another crack baby to colelct my money...or
yeah, i've always wanted another slutaholic giving my
children aids...or even better...yes! give me MORE gov.
military cannon fodder!!!!!! WE NEED TO TAKE OVER MORE
COUNTRIES BY FORCE!!!!!!!! and that's if america hasn't
already infected said country with american franchises (the
accepted way of global domination).

what about masturbation? what about my sperms rights?!!!!!
should i be jailed due to the fact that i'm killing millions
of possible children? :P

coat hangers for all!!!!


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2003-10-22 17:06 [#00914194]
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You're forgetting something : a baby is not conscious of its
own existence, so that would make the mother's life more
valuable.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-10-22 17:07 [#00914195]
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coat hangers for all!!!!

haha that would make a great T-shirt!! :D


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-10-22 17:08 [#00914196]
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When i searched that was the first thing i came across for
the Diagram :P


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-10-22 17:09 [#00914197]
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fleetmouse supports a woman's right to choose


 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2003-10-22 17:39 [#00914217]
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I beleive in the pre-5 month philosophy of pro choice...
after that, its no longer just a cell mass, and the little
rascal is probably able to feel pain



 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-10-22 17:45 [#00914225]
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I'm pro-abortion.


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2003-10-22 18:22 [#00914252]
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*passes weathered a "COAT HANGERS FOR ALL!!!" t-shirt*


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2003-10-22 18:30 [#00914261]
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I wish my mommy had aborted me


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2003-10-22 18:34 [#00914263]
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No you don't.


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2003-10-22 18:46 [#00914272]
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Yeah I guess not. Although sometimes i've felt that I'd be
better off not existing.

I guess I should state my position on the always heated
abortion debate. It's a sad thing that it has to happen,
but I think women should have the right to a legal and safe
place to have it done. I think they should allow for
medical exemptions on this partial-birth abortion thing.

I know it's not an easy choice for a woman to make. As a
guy I can't understand it but it can't be something done
lightly.


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2003-10-22 18:46 [#00914273]
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i sure that many pplz mommies had the thought cross their
minds at one time or another.

From the moment we're born we've aldready survived countless
darwinsitic "selections."


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-22 19:09 [#00914291]
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Pick up your "I love Abortion T-Shirt" from Kusotare Heavy Industries!!


 

offline Dozier from United States on 2003-10-22 20:06 [#00914347]
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i'm not going to bother stating whether i'm pro-choice or
pro-life, because the real issue to me is why we even have
to have this debate in the first place.

i tend to think that if people only wanted abortions when it
was known the fetus was going to have serious abnormalities
or that the mother's life was going to be at a severe risk
then this wouldn't be such a big issue. i'm not for a
woman's (or anyone's for that matter) choice to terminate a
fetus because of inconvienence. the unfortunate fact is that
these procedure's being so prevalent and available only
serve to compromise our sense of responsibility we have
towards having sex.

maybe the world would end up being a slightly better place
if abortion was illegal and we learned that we couldn't rely
on that safety net. would it result in more responsible
people or just more unwanted babies?

i don't have all the answers...

i just have this one.

i'm just kidding. the bottom line for me is i have trouble
stomaching the idea of killing an unborn child. it just
feels wrong to the core, and it's as simple as that.

by the way, i'm not christian or anything like that.
agnostic through and through.



 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-10-22 20:09 [#00914348]
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I want a t-shirt that says "I love abortion t-shirt"


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-22 20:10 [#00914350]
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I just don't think making abortion illegal would all of a
sudden make people have a more responsible attitude towards
having sex. You honestly think that?

Besides, the unwanted fetus is an invading organism; if you
don't want it, you should be able to remove it.


 


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