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I've really wanted to explore this notion of concept albums - of music that tells a story. but my music won't have lyrics - (maybe two or three tracks will have spoken word) it's all very lo-fi style instrumentation right now, very 16-bit snes / megadrive-genesis sounding. a friend was telling me that "only people who really love video games will dig this." so should i care? because i really don't. anyways, the album is going to be two discs worth of music, in all types of genre, and it looks like it will be about 30+ tracks the way my progress is going right now. so anyways, what's your favourite concept album? or are you working on one? |
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well, about your album, who cares if only people who like video game music will like it? are you really trying to get rich and be popular making idm? (im assuming thats what it is) so just make the music for yourself and fuck anybody else in terms of concept albums, ive gotta say tool's lateralus is my favorite. that album just has so much emotional power for me. dark side of the moon is number two for me i guess |
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Concept albums are very nice - there should be many, many more of them instead of all those containing a mass of randomly placed tracks. Its sort of conforting to have a complete flowing album where the tracks are all connected by some underlying idea. It makes it feel much more worth the money. Anyway, "God in Three Persons" by The Residents is a nice one. |
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The Microphones - Mt. Eerie Oddioblender: You never said what your concept. For the album. But wait, aren't all albums concept albums? |
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would you really consider "does this look infected?" by sum 41 to be a concept album, or an album at all.... or even something worth not burning? |
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hedphukker - couldn't have said it better myself! i would like to at least be able to eat though. :D wimp - the setting is averageland, and the protagonist is a wash-up named average joe who fell from grace. the antagonist is jack kankus, the founder/ceo of kankus corporation, who was the kind of kid who was the class loser at school - he is rich and powerful now, but still feels empty inside. kankus corporation creates androids - or synthetic humans as many prefer to call them. well these androids eventually go postal, and joe ends up getting involved in an effort to stop them. of course he's a drunken bastard and is more brawn than brain, so a girl named practical megan helps him. they meet a hacker / thief named vladimir who tries to decipher an android's AI as to why it went haywire and started attacking humans. before they can find the answer, a "Crisis containment team" comes in to stop them. of course, our duo wins. they then get an anonymous tip to "follow the electric arabian" and end up following an android, built like a middle eastern fellow, through the sewers, to Kankus Corp's android manufacturing facility. There, the duo meets and confront Mother - an AI created by Kankus - however she escapes. why? because she has realized her power to create. and that's disc one, the rest is developing. |
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Atleast the good ones. Ones that capture something. Like Cex's Being Ridden? Or Venetian Snares' Winter In The Belly Of A Snake? Or Led Zeppelin's IV? Or The Soft Pink Truth's Do You Party? Max Tundra's Mastered by Guy at The Exchange? Matmos' A Chance To Cut Is A Chance To Cure? Pearl Jam's Yield? |
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Mother is just a tentative name by the way - she's actually referred to as the "mother of androids" - i will change the name, as it is a rip from Mother (known as Earthbound in the US) The soundtracks to Phantasy Star IV, Super Mario RPG, Chrono Trigger, Zero Wing, and Final Fantasy VI are my main inspirations on this soundtrack. |
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Oddioblender: Nice. Fucking nice. Headfucker: I know what you mean, but I don't even think Does This Look Infected is an album. |
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Frankly I don't really see the point of making anything except concept albums. Collections of singles and random tracks don't flow well, have no real point, and usually seem inconsistent, prodding listeners to make evaluations about 'favorite' tracks, etc. With concept albums, or theme-oriented albums, there is less focus on tryingto make individual tracks radio friendly and able to stand on their own. Tracks aren't always meant to stand on their own. They don't always have to tell a story per se, but sometimes simply a comon theme can tie an album together very well. All this being said, some favorite concept albums for me include various Tangerine Dream recordings from the early eighties. Sonic Youth's Daydream Nation and EVOL are also very consistent in sound and feel producing very nice effects. Nine Inch Nails' the Downward Spiral (yeah, I know we've brought this up a million times) is also a very nice narrative type concept album. There's a lot of works which could be stretched to fit my criteria.. but I'll leave that animal alone for now :). |
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Nubuo Umatsu. Videogame Composing Genius. |
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wimp - yes, nubuo uematsu is THE fucking man. i ended up making a thirteen-minute track with nothing but organs used for melody, inspired by "Dancing Mad" (final boss theme from FFVI) uviol - yeah i really have been thinking about this a lot lately. when i started listening to video game music again, i started to realize that i wasn't listening just to individual tracks, but the soundtracks as a whole. i wanted to make something like this, where all the pieces fit. but this is an age-old argument - the classic idea of absolute music vs. program music absolute music is JUST music absolute quite simple. it serves no purpose or function other than the fact that it is music. program music serves a purpose, and usually is a series of pieces used to convey a series of thoughts or ideas. sorry - i'm pretty sure you know this already. :D but i agree with you - btw, i own the vinyl copy of the Tangerine Dream single "Warsaw in the Sun" - good stuff. |
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last rights |
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Tibbar: Yes, Last Rights is the shiznit van dangle. I remember being 14 and going to Ameoba in SF (where I now live) and getting and listening to it all the way on headphones. That albums is tops. |
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I've often thought about doing a weeks worth of news stories. The main item on the show, with the newsreaders vocals cut up and the music conveying how the peice made me feel. My week in the news. Maybe I will get around to it some day...I want to wait until I feel I am at a level to do it justice. |
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wimp: glad SOMEONE here agrees. that thing is like definitely my candidate for best concept album |
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Shit man, I remember only having their Remix Dys Temper and thinking, hmm, this Last Rights album looks cool, let's check it. After that, my Skinny Puppy Collection has swelled: Last Rights, Remix Dys Temper, VIVIsectVI, Too Dark Park, Cleanse Fold & Manipulate, Rabies, Mind: The Perpetual Intercourese, and (the very KMFDMy) The Process. |
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my favs are definitely rabies (excellent jourgensen production), too dark, process, and last rights. and i LOVE the ohgr stuff, especially the new one. and download. and i cant wait for the new puppy album!!!!!!!!!! |
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sounds like a good idea. you should do that. |
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Every outstanding album i've heard I would consider a 'concept album'. An album that just flows together and takes you on an adventure. Ilkae's 'Pistachio Island' was a great concept album despite it was 44 tracks to be played in random mode. Uematsu is great. I have the original sound versions of Final Fantasy 3/6 and Crono Trigger. 3 cd's each. Nostalgic stuff. |
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i agree! it simply has to be a perfectly flowing album with tracks put together in such a way that you NEVER feel like skipping any of them... it doesn't have to have any 'story' behind it, but it really has to be a kind of 'musical voyage'... may be subjective, but that's how i feel. for me personally 'Modus Operandi' by Photek will always be a piece of perfection. so is 'Psalm 69' by Ministry. also i put here 'Bright Size Life' by Pat Metheny & Jaco Pastorius. oh, and Gridlock's 'Trace'. except the final track (Voiceless:Vcam Remix, which i don't like for sounding kind of 'autechrish') it flows just perfectly! i even think that may be initially they had a long track but than broke it into separate pieces... at least that's the way it sounds (i may be wrong tho :D) there are more i guess, but these are that i think of right now |
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hey, maria!!!! chew that cud!!! |
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; ) *moos in a friendly way* |
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*makes a bunny sound* yeah... thats the ticket. |
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I'm not really a huge fan of concept albums with a continuous story... like The Wall or something... although The Wall rules... but that type of concept album I feel is pretty lame... overall... I really like albums which have an overall concept, and the songs talk about different facets of that concept... kind of like Us by Peter Gabriel... the album is about relationships, and each song talks about a different facet of it... it's great... I guess Sea Change is like that to, as it's about the break up of a relationship... as for concept albums without words, it's obviously a hard thing to accomplish... people say Snivilisation by Orbital is like a concept album, but even that uses vocal samples to tie it together... Passion by Peter Gabriel is a good example of this for me though... I find this music tells a story by itself... it takes me away, and I can create these images in my head to fit the music perfectly... obviously it's supposed to have a visual feel to it, but it's not dependant on the movie, because I've never seen the movie and I still love it... the good thing about this cd, and any cd like this, is that it really sparkes visual imagery , and can even have a bit of a story to it, but it's never the same... it's all up to your imagination... but yeah, I love that cd to death! |
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The best concept album is Extreme's 'III Sides To Every Story'. Classic. |
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Oh DO fuck off! Actually I quite like 'Tragic Comic', but that album is blatantly pants and you know it. 'Pornograffiti' is another matter ;) Seventh Son all the way for me! |
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Pornograffiti rules man... my brother had it when I was a kid, and I thought he was so hardcore... my mom didn't want me to look at the tape! :) |
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'Decadence Dance' has a great riff. In fact I've only ever had that album on tape and I may download it when I get home :) |
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the residents - eskimo the residents - the third reich'n'roll radiohead - kid a pink floyd - animals i'm doing an avant-garde concept mini-album right now. it's based up on some certain philosophical ideas, and the tones for some melodies were chosen by their mathematical distance to each other and were also put in a context to the aforementioned ideas, same with the rhythms. but nobody's gonna like it. |
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avalanches-since i left you fucking wicked |
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i have to say that i like concept albums. i think that's one of the most important and difficult things to do on an album, putting the songs together... but i have to say that i haven't really encountered an album i could say, that it's telling some story or whatever... maybe you would be the first one ;) |
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Fuck off yourself. III Sides fuckin owned bitch. Pornograffiti was a great album to groove to but III Sides was a mature band showing the world what they were really made of. |
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actually that sounds awesome.... now that i think of it, could Eno's works be considered concept albums? like On Land - (Ambient4) - was definitely a continuous concept. |
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there are some good recent (well relatively) concept albums, if you have the ear for them one more "mainstream", atleast in sound, one is deltron 3030, which is basically a concept album about both the future and technology and has alot of sci fi themes and such. i'm sure most people here have heard it already, but i'm a bit late and i'm just now getting into it. |
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"Dahmer" by Macabre. It's a metal concept album about the life of Jeffrey Dahmer and it's amazing. |
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well these two albums sounds like winners - might as well take a listen someday. |
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My favorite concept album is Orbus Terrerum. I like concept albums... although a lot of the time they usually indicate pretention more than imagination or talent. |
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the best concept album is backstreet boy's "black & blue" where the main character toils with the universal question whether or not to sleep with 12 year old girls. |
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is David Bowies "outside" condiered a concept album? |
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bwahahahaha i do believe some of bowie's material is conceptual - like ziggy stardust for example. |
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Operation Mindcrime by Queensryche is the greatest concept album of all time. |
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what an eternal dork. |
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yes, please put your dork away sir. |
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*cough*b*cough*u*cough*m*cough*p |
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I never thought of it as a concept album, but I always thought Underworld's STATI was PERFECTLY SEQUENCED. |
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Wait ! Everybody forgot DJ Shadow's Endtrouducing... |
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Finally, I'd like to state that FSOL's ISDN gets my vote for 'best mood encapsulation'. |
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