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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-10-16 15:17 [#00904709]
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MIDI PISSES ME OFF! In some programs it works(badly, and only in Acid, where I don't really NEED it to work), and the timecode-stuff is fucked up(i don't know what to set this to). I can't make it work in Reason (2.5) or any other program (xcept, of course, for acid).
I have a Roland XP-30 synth, but the problem probably lies in the fact that I'm using the built-in MIDI-thingie in the soundcard(MPU-404 or something like that), but that really shouldn't cause problems, 'cause it IS a midi-connection-thinge(dinnae what to call it), and it works fine in Acid. WHY WON'T REASON WORK?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-10-16 15:20 [#00904714]
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die
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-10-16 15:21 [#00904716]
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that's not a very nice thing to say >:(
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-10-16 15:22 [#00904718]
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i'm hoping to...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-10-16 15:27 [#00904727]
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This might be obvious, but you have enabled midi in reason right?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-10-16 15:34 [#00904743]
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hmmm
so, you just want to be able to play the reason modules, with the xp-30?
we actually used the xp-30 in our labs... and I help alot of people getting the xp-30 to work with reason...
however, we use OSX, and your on a PC it seems... so Im not sure...
i mean, besides checking the MIDI control setup in the prefrences menu of reason, and clicking the MIDI icon to the left of the track (in the arrange section) to select which track MIDI is being sent to, and making sure the XP-30 is setup right (which I know it is... seeing as you said it works on other programs)...
i dont know what to say...
is this a cracked copy of reason by chance?
sorry that I couldnt help more :-\
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-10-16 15:36 [#00904749]
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for some reason my computer won't play midi anymore since i got my new soundcard installed. :S
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-10-16 15:38 [#00904756]
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im assuming that this soundcard also has the midi interface on it?
and youve gone through the whole midi setup?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-10-16 15:40 [#00904761]
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hehe, this reminds me of my roommate
when ever something is broken... his response is "its not working? Well, it should be"
haha
yah, NO SHIT
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-10-16 15:42 [#00904766]
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eh.... midi interface? setup?
i did get a software disc with it now that i think about it - maybe i should take a look then.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-10-16 15:43 [#00904767]
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whats your MIDI cables plugged into?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-10-16 15:44 [#00904769]
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hmm.. i've got MIDI enabled, but is it important to have midi input routed through that "MIDI-in device" thingie that's all the way up top? It says in the helpfile that it isn't really necessary unless you have more than one midi-device connected...
The real problem, i think, lies in the "timecode" or "clock" settings(in reason, there's only "MIDI clock sync," but i don't really know how to set this up... i don't know what the synth uses for this. I think this causes some sort of sync problem in Acid, because the line indicating what part of the song is being played gets delayed, and sometimes it sticks. In acid, i can choose what type of sync i'm going to use, but it never seems right.. all in all, it might be a sync problem...).
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-10-16 15:51 [#00904779]
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no, the midi in device at the top isnt nessasary at all.
how about at the bottom, on the control panel, with the start and stop... over to the left, it says "midi sync" "focus" "enable" :midi" etc...
alls you should need highlighted is MIDI and PLAY
you may also want to check your XP-30, to see what channels its sending MIDI to...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-10-16 15:55 [#00904788]
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hmm.. i do believe it is sending on 1. that would be standard, right? i haven't really messed with stuff like that... the problem is i think reason most likely will feel like putting the midi OUT through the synth again, and that will just remove the point in using reasons synths and samplers... i've noticed now that even when i play midi files in a normal player(windows media player and such), it gets put out to the synth, so i think the send/recieve is okay.. the problem is getting reason to recognise input...
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-10-16 15:57 [#00904789]
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eh.... what should it be plugged into?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-10-16 16:01 [#00904796]
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we are talking about you using an external midi keyboard, controlling software on your computer right?
Drunken: Hmmm. Im stumped. If you figure it out, let me know, cause now Im curious! Good luck!
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-10-16 16:03 [#00904803]
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no no i mean my soundcard WON'T play midis - as in i just get silence whenever i try to play them.....
but the rest of my sound works fine. i probably just need to install that software.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-10-16 16:04 [#00904806]
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ahhhh
yeah, just check the MIDI setup, under the soundcards preferences
you might need to use that CD you where refering to...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-10-16 16:05 [#00904808]
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check the control panel... enter the multimedia-settings and select a playback-device that isn't your current one, nor "MPU-401".
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-10-16 16:07 [#00904814]
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btw, zeus: do you know how i can change the sync settings on the xp30? ..or if that's even possible? it says nothing about it in the manual...
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-10-16 16:09 [#00904819]
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oi... :-\
honestly got no clue on that one.... sorry
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-10-16 16:11 [#00904827]
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alright - i'll try that, thanks.
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-16 21:05 [#00905146]
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Do you really need to actually sync the XP-30 to Reason? I mean if you only sequence the XP from reason, all you need is to pick a channel (that is the same on both ends) and the XP should respond to notes coming from the computer.
You only need sync if you are using BPM synced LFOs on the XP-30 or anything else that needs to be tight with the timecode coming from reason. Otherwise, just figure out the sending/receiving stuff.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-10-17 05:52 [#00905515]
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but when i connect the synth, reason won't even start playing. i can use reason only if the synth isn't connected or if it is turned off..
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-17 09:05 [#00905636]
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Maybe the Reason sequencer is set to external clock? Does the XP-30 have a sequencer? Check its clock settings too.
I sync my laptop to my Akai DPS12 HD-recorder and when the Akai is set to slave, it will only play when it receives a timecode from the laptop. Maybe it's something like that going on here with Reason.
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