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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-10-13 08:31 [#00900565]
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Latvia v Turkey Scotland v Netherlands Croatia v Slovenia Russia v Wales Spain v Norway
Ok. This is it. We can't possibly beat Spain in two qual. matches.
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-10-13 09:03 [#00900583]
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holy shit. we just had to draw holland didn`t we? fuck
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-10-13 09:07 [#00900585]
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Holland, Spain and Turkey is the best teams I think. Russia will also win. Croatia and Slovenia are open, but I think Croatia is the best team.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-10-13 09:21 [#00900605]
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"Croatia and Slovenia are open"
you're kidding, right?
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-10-13 09:23 [#00900607]
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Isn't it? Croatia are only ranked a bit higher. I don't know really...
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rudster
from the glasgow on 2003-10-13 09:23 [#00900608]
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gon yersel berti
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-10-13 09:28 [#00900614]
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i was watching a comment by croatian selector last night, he said that he'd like to play against slovenia, but surely they'll get a tougher opponent...
you have no idea how would i like to see slovenia beat them - they think they're so superior (which probably is true hehe), but they're so full of them seves when it come to football
and we're in this funny situation with croatia at the moment...they want to make some restrictions on the adriatic sea, and we are obviously against that...so now its all down to football :)
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nacmat
on 2003-10-13 09:41 [#00900629]
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remember 2000? in the eurocup?
norway 1 - spain 0
dont lose hope, we are no good at all. our players are just richer than yours
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-10-13 09:43 [#00900632]
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i remember
norway-slovenia 0-0 spain-slovenia 2-1 (i think)
norway is good in deffence, definitely!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-10-13 09:44 [#00900634]
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and better
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nacmat
on 2003-10-13 09:47 [#00900637]
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solskjaer and carew do not play... that shall make it easier.
I know how sad spain can get when it comes to an important point
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-10-13 09:50 [#00900640]
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btw, im pretty sure there's going to be lots of fighting between suporters of slovenia and croatia...perhaps i'll go kick someone as well
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nacmat
on 2003-10-13 09:56 [#00900651]
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a week ago a person died in spain for fights in the stadium.
dont be silly, football is just a game, there is no sense in dying for it
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-10-13 09:57 [#00900654]
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football = lame
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-10-13 10:03 [#00900661]
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i was kidding there...im a pacifist - no fighting for me (unless necessary hehe)
i hate to see when fights start, especially in sports
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nacmat
on 2003-10-13 10:13 [#00900665]
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thats so lame
;D
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-10-13 10:20 [#00900671]
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hehe, what, me or football?
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nacmat
on 2003-10-13 11:45 [#00900715]
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your post!!
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-10-13 11:51 [#00900723]
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I take it you like football, then, nacmat.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-10-13 11:56 [#00900728]
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my thoughts on who will go through
Turkey Netherlands Croatia v Slovenia (depends on who is playing) Wales Spain v Norway (depends on who is playing)
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nacmat
on 2003-10-13 12:28 [#00900770]
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yes... I am lame, I know
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-10-13 12:30 [#00900773]
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Croatia v Slovenia (depends on who is playing)
dont say you know any players!? :)
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nacmat
on 2003-10-13 12:32 [#00900777]
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I just know zahovic from slovenia
I should know more as we ve played them twice in 3 years
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-10-13 12:33 [#00900781]
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there's been so many changes i lost track as well :)
but i know lots of spanish players :)
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nacmat
on 2003-10-13 12:39 [#00900783]
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raul torres valeron joaquin xabi alonso helguera puyol casillas ...
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-10-13 12:40 [#00900784]
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i know about the croatia side to be fair thats sort of what i ment
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-10-13 12:41 [#00900785]
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football is lame, not you nacmat :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-10-13 12:42 [#00900786]
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do you know what's with hierro? is he still playing?
is de pedro still playing for national squad?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-10-13 12:44 [#00900788]
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if they put that young stiker (i think he plays for dinamo) in, they have a pretty good chance, but they always force their older players - even better they force themselves
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nacmat
on 2003-10-13 12:46 [#00900793]
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de pedro will possibly play in the eurocup but not now.
the coach is giving oportunity to some young talents, and d epedro is one of the sacrified along with morientes for example.
hierro will never play for spain again, he retired from the national team last worldcup.
he plays now in the Qatar league
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-10-13 12:48 [#00900797]
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RUSSIA all the way !!!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-10-13 12:50 [#00900801]
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qatar? haha, he'll probably make more money in one season than he mad in all those years in real :)
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nacmat
on 2003-10-13 12:55 [#00900812]
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other players in qatar this year:
guardiola batistuta cannigia effemberg
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-10-13 12:57 [#00900816]
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all making good bucks and having good time...must be pretty cool to watch their league...its almost like that senior ATP thing (for older tennis players) :)
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-10-14 03:16 [#00901453]
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I remember that match very good yes. But since then, Norway has become a really poor football-team. Carew will not play, because he is in an argument with the coach, but players like Riise and Solskjær will be there I hope. Norways old coach Egil Drillo Olsen gave Norway 15% chance beating Spain out.
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addi b
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-10-15 08:44 [#00902874]
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Damn those lucky Scots, Iceland have a much better team and should be playing Netherland for a place in the finals :(
1)Norway are utter crap and dont stand a remote chance against Spain.
2)Croatia will probably win against Slovenia but it will be close.
3)Scotland will be humiliated against the Netherlands. The insanely optimistic Sauerkraut Berti Vogts will choke on his nerdy sausage arrogance...
4)Russia vs. Wales will be very very close. If they win the first leg at home with more than 1 goal they will progress otherwise not.
5)Turkey will probably beat Latvia but I think this might be surprisingly evenly matched.
Italy will then go on and win Euro 2004....
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-10-15 09:02 [#00902888]
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Isn't Icelands team utter crap? Icelands players only lowers the Norwegian League :(
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addi b
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-10-16 05:36 [#00903973]
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You couldnt be further from the truth as most of our players play in England and Belgia and Germany......
Eidur Gudjonsen(Chelsea) Our star player, one of the better strikers in the world., Joey Gudjonsson(Wolves)
, Hermann Hreidarsson(charlton), Runar Kristinsson(Genk), Thordur Gudjonsson all top quality players....and i could go on.
Now finally when we have a decent coach in Sigurvinsson we will crush crap kick-and-run teams like Scotland and Norway any given time.....
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nacmat
on 2003-10-16 05:50 [#00903978]
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Our star player, one of the better strikers in the world. __________________________________
lol
come on you forgot about like 500 strikers much better than those
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I think norway is better at football than iceland, actually I think that there is no real comparison.
when has Iceland had such players as solskjaer, flo, carew, berg...??
solskjaer is really one of the best strikers in the world
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addi b
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-10-16 07:29 [#00904076]
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lol your are a funny spanish biatch!
Gudjohnsen was rated at least equal to Ronaldo when they were at PSV so dont tell me he isnt top quality. Some bad injuries until to today but when Eidur gets to regularly play he has proven to be utterly lethal in his link-up play.
Norway are just an utterly boring long ball crappy team and so is Scotland. Iceland is getting better all the time while Norway is now decending into the lower league of european football. Iceland have shown their strenght by drawing France and Germany(deserved to win them actually last month). Cant see boring Norway getting a result like that in this new century......
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nacmat
on 2003-10-16 07:44 [#00904092]
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Cant see boring Norway getting a result like that in this new century...... __________________________________
well actually norway is still capable of playing the eurocup (I hope not) while iceland are already eliminated.... as almost everytime.
(while norway is often in the final stage of every championshiop, and has some nice teams as rosemborg that is always or many times in second league of champions league)
and please dont try to even compare Ronaldo with that Gudjohnsen... it would be ridiculous.
and yes I am a "funny spanish biatch"
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nacmat
on 2003-10-16 07:51 [#00904099]
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Rank/ Team/ Points Sep 2003/ Rank Aug 48.... Iceland .....557 .............56
Rank / Team /Points Sep 2003 /Rank Aug 2003 25 .....Norway ....635 ..............22
so norway is place 25 actually for fifa rankings while iceland is 48
end of discussion
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-10-16 08:01 [#00904108]
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Yep. Nothing to discuss, really :) And Ronaldo=Gudjohnsen. Well....funny but Gudjohnsen is pretty fucking far from being a Ronaldo.
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addi b
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-10-16 08:01 [#00904109]
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At the moment under Sigurvinsson Iceland is a very organized and strong team who play a short pass 3-5-2 while Norway are boring lang ball team who play 4-5-1 and rely on luck to create goal scoring chances.
I agree its ridiculous to compare Ronaldo and Gudjohnsen as they play 2 totally different positions. Despite not being a natural out and out striker Eidur still was the groups top scorer with 5 goals from 8 games which speaks for itself.
I really hope Norway and Scotland dont progress through Spain and Holland(no chance of that actually) It would be a crime against humanity.......
For the last 50 years Iceland have been amatures in Football. Now that we have a lot of pro´s we will soon reach the Finals both in Euro and WCup and start ruling over this fucking planet in the process!
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addi b
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-10-16 08:08 [#00904114]
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That 25-48 statistic is calculated over the last 5 years I think. Right now though Iceland are definately better than Norway........end of discussion
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nacmat
on 2003-10-16 09:07 [#00904175]
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then why is iceland eliminated and not norway?
wake up from your wet dream were iceland is anything in football world
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addi b
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-10-16 09:36 [#00904209]
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Because Iceland had an idiot for a coach in the first 3 games (where we lost twice against Scotland) ,when we finally changed the real quality of the team was shown.
Im not saying Iceland are one of the best teams in the world right now but were a heck of a better team than lousy Norway and Scotland. You little spanish cunt will have have to ram my icelandic football cock down your throat when Iceland will reach WCup ´06
Take it like a man biatch! Take it like a man..... :)
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nacmat
on 2003-10-16 09:44 [#00904220]
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"You little spanish cunt " _________________________________
well, this discussion is really going a bit far dont you think?.
I will be happy for you whenever iceland reaches a worldcup or a eurocup... I am also sure that iceland is making huge progress in football in the last years, so great for you and great for world football too.
but nowadadys norway is still way better... at least in results...
I remember norway in france 98 beating brazil 2-1 and therefor passing through 1/8 finals
I remember norway beating spain 1-0 in euro2000 too
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addi b
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-10-16 10:12 [#00904286]
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Dont worry Im not trying to take this to far, just aiming for a good laugh here :)
but you keep refering to Norway of the old 5years ago and beyond. Im more into the present developements of the last 1-2 years and into the future, Im afraid your compairing apples and oranges here. The Icelandic team is now growing very very rapidly with a lot of our players getting into better clubs.
I think Icelands squad is at least equal to Norways but we have a better coach and formation=better team.....
Lets just see what the future brings but it should be more on Icelands side
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nacmat
on 2003-10-16 10:19 [#00904302]
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lets see
but I was not only talking about past, in fact who is already with possibilities of clasifying and who is not?
anyway, I get your point, and I wish iceland all the luck in future
and by the way, I am glad that you like football so much, so do I .
you will have lots of oportunity to talk about football on this site as there are lots of football lovers and we each year, have a thread dedicated to the champions league and to all football news in general
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