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offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-06 22:13 [#00892322]
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My friend has a Dell Inspiron 5100 laptop with a sigma tel
c major soundcard.

When he has a signal going in through the mic input, he can
see strong input signal in soundforge's monitor and he can
record the sound but he cannot hear it out of the headphone
port before or during recording.

it's not a problem with mute, or output levels. and he can
still hear sound from other running programs (cd player,
acid pro.etc...) and hear them when recording.
It's only a problem when the signal is coming in through the
input jack.

anyone have any idea what's wrong?



 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2003-10-06 22:15 [#00892323]
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As far as i am aware you can't do this because i am not able
to do it with mine.


 

offline Rambling Madman from the future (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-06 22:23 [#00892328]
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As far as i am aware you can't do this because you are not
able
to do it with your mates.


 

offline -V- from Ensenada Drive on 2003-10-06 22:24 [#00892329]
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I can't hear my microphone while recording unless 'Mic Boost
(+20dB)' is checked in the Advanced Microphone properties of
the Windows System Mixer, but that's probably not the
problem your friend has... if that falls under the output
levels that have no problem.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-10-06 22:26 [#00892330]
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I think it might be something to do with head lice.


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-10-06 23:02 [#00892347]
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talk to anus, he knows how to fix any computer related sound
problem


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-06 23:02 [#00892350]
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cool, i will. thanks.


 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-10-06 23:05 [#00892354]
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Do you have a built in mic on you laptop ? That might be the
problem : )


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-06 23:13 [#00892357]
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it's not mine.

but basically, if any signal is coming in through the mic
input jack, you can see the signal (on the soundforge
monitor), you can record it, but you can't hear it.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-07 01:20 [#00892388]
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so can you hear it after it's recorded?


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-07 01:36 [#00892397]
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yep
just can't hear the signal coming in. it will record
though... ?



 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-07 01:59 [#00892422]
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on mine, i have it muted, but i can un-mute it just by going
to the plain old mixer and un-muting the 'mic' thing. If
it's not on the list, you can go to file>properties, and add
it to the list so you can see it.

that's all i can think of. i usually have it turned off
because it creates feedback sometimes


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-07 02:00 [#00892427]
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it's usually a system icon down at the bottom right there,
ya know


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-07 02:08 [#00892436]
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yeah,
he says he tried all that, but i'll mention it to him. i
don't think that's the problem.
if the mic were muted, it couldn't be recorded right?


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-07 02:33 [#00892448]
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no, it can still be recorded, it's just that it's not
allowed to come out the speakers while you use it


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-07 02:44 [#00892461]
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The sigma tel seems very good, supporting 192kHz sampling
and so on, so maybe this is uesless to mention, but is the
card/circuit 100% full duplex?

Some cards don't allow recording and playback at the same
time. Even if it just the mic input that doesn't sound
during recording, this could be the issue.

I was reading this page, but didn't see anything..
http://www.sigmatel.com/audio/audio_codecs.htm

-P



 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-07 03:02 [#00892473]
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actually that's kinda what i thought it might be. he doesn't
know if his card is full duplex.. he's looking into it


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-07 14:34 [#00893379]
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BUmp!

Anus Presly? you have been rrecomended as a rrresourcerr

rr


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-09 11:12 [#00896023]
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Well we have decided the best way to fix the problem is for
him to get some kind of USB audio interface. something with
a couple quarter ins and outs and some midi jacks.

Can anyone recommend something that does this? and does it
well and inexpensively?


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-09 12:30 [#00896092]
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I don't think there are inexpensive USB audio interfaces. I
can recommend the ESI Waveterminal U24.

It has both analog and digital I/Os. 24-bit resolution.



 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2003-10-09 13:22 [#00896162]
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If you are not recording from a microphone, it is wise to
use the line in instead. I don't know why, but if you are
recording from a cd player/minidisc/record
player/synthesizer/drum machine/ect, etc, all you will hear
an audible his unless you use the line in.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-09 15:59 [#00896355]
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there is only a mic in on his laptop, as far as i know.


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-09 16:58 [#00896406]
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Don't worry, the mic in works just fine. My laptop is just
like that too (IBM R32).


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-09 19:58 [#00896600]
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how are you liking that laptop? the IBM r32?

is it worth the price? what is the price anyway?

i'm thinking about buyin one.


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-10 03:37 [#00896836]
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The graphics ram is only 16MB. The HD is 4200RPM, which is
the slowest of the standard drives today. It has no
touchpad, only that incredibly stupid IBM stick thing. Still
want it? :)

I have one because I rent it from work for a very nice
price. I think a year ago (got mine Oct2nd 2002) they cost
around 1500USD. It works great though. I have an optional
travelmouse, large keyboard and the port-replicator.

I don't use it for audio recording, since I do my recordings
on an Akai DPS12, so I can't tell you about the HD
performance. There's always ways around that through the
PC-Card slot, but that's an additional cost.

-P


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-10 13:10 [#00897490]
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well, i was actually more curious about IBM laptops in
general. not specifically the r32 but thanks for the info.


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-10 13:16 [#00897496]
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IBM finally gave in last year and introduced touchpads on
the big A-series last year.

Right now, if I was buying, I'd consider a VAIO from Sony.
There are so many options with those. Dell usually have good
prices, unlike Sony.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-10-10 13:34 [#00897510]
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i did not read anything past the first few

but most computers don't let you do that because it would
cause feed back and could possibly damage your speakers


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-10 18:38 [#00897800]
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my brother in law has strongly advised me buying a sony
vaio. i really don't know much about them. Squarepusher
tours with one so they can't be all bad.
they are mad expensive for what you get though.


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-11 02:06 [#00897957]
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Yeah the prices are insane. I've actually changed my mind
now that I was refreshing up on what models they have
available. How about a dell inspiron 5100? I've talked to a
guy on another board who uses one. It's not as sleek as the
VAIOs.


 


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