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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-06 22:13 [#00892322]
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My friend has a Dell Inspiron 5100 laptop with a sigma tel c major soundcard.
When he has a signal going in through the mic input, he can see strong input signal in soundforge's monitor and he can record the sound but he cannot hear it out of the headphone port before or during recording.
it's not a problem with mute, or output levels. and he can still hear sound from other running programs (cd player, acid pro.etc...) and hear them when recording.
It's only a problem when the signal is coming in through the input jack.
anyone have any idea what's wrong?
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2003-10-06 22:15 [#00892323]
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As far as i am aware you can't do this because i am not able to do it with mine.
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-06 22:23 [#00892328]
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As far as i am aware you can't do this because you are not able
to do it with your mates.
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-V-
from Ensenada Drive on 2003-10-06 22:24 [#00892329]
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I can't hear my microphone while recording unless 'Mic Boost (+20dB)' is checked in the Advanced Microphone properties of the Windows System Mixer, but that's probably not the problem your friend has... if that falls under the output levels that have no problem.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-10-06 22:26 [#00892330]
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I think it might be something to do with head lice.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-10-06 23:02 [#00892347]
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talk to anus, he knows how to fix any computer related sound problem
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-06 23:02 [#00892350]
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cool, i will. thanks.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-10-06 23:05 [#00892354]
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Do you have a built in mic on you laptop ? That might be the problem : )
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-06 23:13 [#00892357]
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it's not mine.
but basically, if any signal is coming in through the mic input jack, you can see the signal (on the soundforge monitor), you can record it, but you can't hear it.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-07 01:20 [#00892388]
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so can you hear it after it's recorded?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-07 01:36 [#00892397]
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yep just can't hear the signal coming in. it will record though... ?
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-07 01:59 [#00892422]
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on mine, i have it muted, but i can un-mute it just by going to the plain old mixer and un-muting the 'mic' thing. If it's not on the list, you can go to file>properties, and add it to the list so you can see it.
that's all i can think of. i usually have it turned off because it creates feedback sometimes
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-07 02:00 [#00892427]
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it's usually a system icon down at the bottom right there, ya know
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-07 02:08 [#00892436]
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yeah, he says he tried all that, but i'll mention it to him. i don't think that's the problem.
if the mic were muted, it couldn't be recorded right?
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-07 02:33 [#00892448]
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no, it can still be recorded, it's just that it's not allowed to come out the speakers while you use it
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-07 02:44 [#00892461]
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The sigma tel seems very good, supporting 192kHz sampling and so on, so maybe this is uesless to mention, but is the card/circuit 100% full duplex?
Some cards don't allow recording and playback at the same time. Even if it just the mic input that doesn't sound during recording, this could be the issue.
I was reading this page, but didn't see anything.. http://www.sigmatel.com/audio/audio_codecs.htm
-P
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-07 03:02 [#00892473]
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actually that's kinda what i thought it might be. he doesn't know if his card is full duplex.. he's looking into it
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-07 14:34 [#00893379]
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BUmp!
Anus Presly? you have been rrecomended as a rrresourcerr
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-09 11:12 [#00896023]
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Well we have decided the best way to fix the problem is for him to get some kind of USB audio interface. something with a couple quarter ins and outs and some midi jacks.
Can anyone recommend something that does this? and does it well and inexpensively?
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-09 12:30 [#00896092]
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I don't think there are inexpensive USB audio interfaces. I can recommend the ESI Waveterminal U24.
It has both analog and digital I/Os. 24-bit resolution.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2003-10-09 13:22 [#00896162]
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If you are not recording from a microphone, it is wise to use the line in instead. I don't know why, but if you are recording from a cd player/minidisc/record player/synthesizer/drum machine/ect, etc, all you will hear an audible his unless you use the line in.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-09 15:59 [#00896355]
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there is only a mic in on his laptop, as far as i know.
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-09 16:58 [#00896406]
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Don't worry, the mic in works just fine. My laptop is just like that too (IBM R32).
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-09 19:58 [#00896600]
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how are you liking that laptop? the IBM r32?
is it worth the price? what is the price anyway?
i'm thinking about buyin one.
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-10 03:37 [#00896836]
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The graphics ram is only 16MB. The HD is 4200RPM, which is the slowest of the standard drives today. It has no touchpad, only that incredibly stupid IBM stick thing. Still want it? :)
I have one because I rent it from work for a very nice price. I think a year ago (got mine Oct2nd 2002) they cost around 1500USD. It works great though. I have an optional travelmouse, large keyboard and the port-replicator.
I don't use it for audio recording, since I do my recordings on an Akai DPS12, so I can't tell you about the HD performance. There's always ways around that through the PC-Card slot, but that's an additional cost.
-P
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-10 13:10 [#00897490]
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well, i was actually more curious about IBM laptops in general. not specifically the r32 but thanks for the info.
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-10 13:16 [#00897496]
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IBM finally gave in last year and introduced touchpads on the big A-series last year.
Right now, if I was buying, I'd consider a VAIO from Sony. There are so many options with those. Dell usually have good prices, unlike Sony.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-10-10 13:34 [#00897510]
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i did not read anything past the first few
but most computers don't let you do that because it would cause feed back and could possibly damage your speakers
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-10 18:38 [#00897800]
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my brother in law has strongly advised me buying a sony vaio. i really don't know much about them. Squarepusher tours with one so they can't be all bad.
they are mad expensive for what you get though.
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-11 02:06 [#00897957]
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Yeah the prices are insane. I've actually changed my mind now that I was refreshing up on what models they have available. How about a dell inspiron 5100? I've talked to a guy on another board who uses one. It's not as sleek as the VAIOs.
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