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offline theo himself from +- on 2003-10-06 03:41 [#00891036]
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I recently bought a midi controller and it's already made
the music-making portion of my life significantly easier.

why, though, do I feel like there is a brief (yet noticable)
delay in between my pressing a key and its being played?

are there software packets of sounds you can use for midi
things? eg drums etc?

how the fuck does one get started in cubase.. are there
tutorials?


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-06 05:13 [#00891106]
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I suppose you're using some sort of softsynth, when this
lagging happens. It's all about drivers and good sound
cards. Soundcards have different latencies and some of it
has to do with your computer's performance. Look for latency
setting, try to get it as short as possible.

There's probably hundreds (maybe not) of books on Cubase, if
you feel like buying. I downloaded the SX manual off of
slsk, not that I have started using SX.

-P


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-06 05:16 [#00891110]
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Also, you will probably notice that trying to keep MIDI
tracks in sync with AUDIO tracks is a pain in the ass, so
don't mix.



 

offline rudster from the glasgow on 2003-10-06 05:26 [#00891127]
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I found cubase really frustrating at first, couldnt work it
at all. But now i think the basic are a pice of piss. Mixing
audio and midi is extremely effective as long as you match
the tempo perfectly on the audio track. I remixed Super
Mario bros them tune using midi and audio. nothing like
Aphextwin though, check out a couple of my tracks
www.mp3.com.au/rud


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-10-06 07:30 [#00891257]
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Cubase is an absolute fucker for latency unless you have
specific ASIO soundcard drivers. If your soundcard is
decent enough you can use the DirectX drivers which reduces
the problem.


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2003-10-06 07:53 [#00891289]
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wanna hook me with that cubase guide? ;)


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-07 03:35 [#00892490]
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It's 6078kB. No email of mine in the world will allow
attachments that big.


 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-10-07 05:23 [#00892550]
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Midi is the evil seductive women you always wanted. It hurts
so good.


 

offline mc_303_beatz from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-10-07 05:26 [#00892553]
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the only way round it in Cubase is to use the shitey built
in soundcards Midi instruments to record the music live.
Then, once recorded, assign the output to a VST Instrument
and voila!, you`ll have a VST synth or whatnot playing in
time.


 

offline rudster from the glasgow on 2003-10-07 06:07 [#00892584]
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midi what do u mean mc303 above


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-07 08:03 [#00892707]
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Sounds triggered by MIDI don't lag the way a softsynth can
do. So if you need to record stuff live, aka by playing a
keyboard, you can use this method and then replace the MIDI
instrument sound with a softsynth. Right? :)

Hope it makes sense.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-10-07 09:09 [#00892798]
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That is what he meant...but lets say with pads I often time
notes on the evolution...which you can't do using standard
midi shit. It takes the fun away from making music.


 

offline hepburnenthorpe from sydney (Australia) on 2003-10-07 09:17 [#00892818]
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theo...what sound card have you got? there are some asio
drivers available for the sblive series. they should be able
to get you better latency.

if youve a sblive i'll dig up the drivers for you.

actually, i already did. here they are.


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2003-10-07 22:49 [#00893882]
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thank you.

I want to be able to do the following things:

- tap out a beat on my controller and later change the
percussive sounds to my liking

- set up my windows recording mixer to record ONLY that
which is coming through the midi controller .. so that I
might be able to listen to an already recorded portion of a
song and play over it and have the midi track be an
exclusive track in the song

where do I fix the latency problems?

what exactly is a "pad"?


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2003-10-07 23:08 [#00893892]
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and my soundcard is, I believe, SoundMAX Digital Audio .. is
there any hope for me?


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-08 02:17 [#00894002]
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A pad is usually some sort of long (sweeping) sound. It can
be a combination of all kinds of sounds, synths, strings and
usually some sort of fx.

I don't understand what you mean by that windows mixer thing
or the exclusive part, but just remember that MIDI itself
doesn't contain any audio. You're not recording audio
signals with MIDI, just the midi info like note on, note off
etc. This makes it very flexible in an editing situation.

For example when I program drums, I usually have atleast 3
sequencer tracks for the same kit. This way I can edit hihat
sections without affecting snares and kicks. They can all be
on the same MIDI-channel. You just have to remember that
when adding control changes and so on. Any MIDI-messages
will change all three tracks (modwheel, volume etc).

hope this sheds some light on things..


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2003-10-08 03:56 [#00894112]
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ok.. how can I listen to something play on my comp and play
along w/ my midi .. and have ONLY the midi recorded?


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2003-10-08 04:15 [#00894139]
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nevermind ;)


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-08 04:23 [#00894157]
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In your sequencer, cubase I suppose :) , you select if you
want to record a MIDI track or an AUDIO track.

When that track is recorded, it will play back as you record
your next track. If you only want to record the MIDI
information, make it a MIDI track.

Only the notes you play on your keyboard will be recorded,
not the actual sound, so you can substitute the instrument
used at the time, anytime.





 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-08 04:24 [#00894159]
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Ah too late.. Maybe it will help someone else too.


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2003-10-08 04:59 [#00894191]
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well where might I be able to handle the latency issues?


 


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