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offline theo himself from +- on 2003-10-05 20:14 [#00890695]
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he's finally gotten his shit back together

check "Chi Kung" from his Oct. 7th release 'Birth of a
Prince'


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-10-05 20:18 [#00890699]
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I really do hope so...everything related to Wu that has been
released since Liquid Swords has been a disappointment for
me.


 

offline PigeonSt from Detroit on 2003-10-05 20:20 [#00890700]
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my cousin is running the money from an upcoming (partial) wu
tang show in ann arbor, I told him to slap those guys brotha
fives for me


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-05 20:43 [#00890718]
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everything Wu post-Supreme Clientele has disappointed me but
i haven't been checking everything


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-10-05 21:04 [#00890743]
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But Supreme Clientele wasn't as good as it could have
been...and it was the only jewel in the rough. I seriously
think the Wu had 2, possibly 3 decent years and that was
it...it has been 7 or 8 if people waiting and hoping for
something of the same calibre as their early stuff.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-05 21:07 [#00890747]
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i loved wu-tang forever even more than 36 chambers.. rza
developed as producer and musician and they all developed
lyrically. i think 36 chambers is a classic but i don't
think a lot of people want to give the wu credit for
dropping intelligent and meaningful lyrics on their 2nd
album, not just some catchy lines (exceptions being tracks
like "can it all be so simple" and "cream"). supreme
clientele was great; it's hard to really say something
wasn't as good as it could've been because really, what is?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-10-05 21:17 [#00890768]
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Even though the production quality was better on forever I
think it lost what made the Wu exciting in the first place.
The grimy kind of "Fuck it lets do this" mentality was gone.
For me there is a problem when rappers who lyrically aren't
the strongest try to go concious, it never works properly.
Raekwon in particular is useless when he tries to do
anything other than his ghetto gangster shit...but at least
they seem to have dropped Superhb or whatever his name
was...he is the worst rapper I have ever heard on a major
release.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-05 21:23 [#00890773]
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well i discovered the wu right as forever was coming out so
i didn't have any preconceived notions of what it was
supposed to be; i think that's what spoils a lot of wu (and
wu-fam) stuff and hip-hop in general for folks. for
conscious shit, "impossible" gives me goosebumps everytime.
i don't think the wu set out to be preachers on the album
but they got serious (for the most part; i mean there was
still "dog shit" and some bragging tracks on there) and i
think that worked out pretty well for them.


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-10-05 21:43 [#00890783]
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what's ODB up to these days?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-05 21:46 [#00890786]
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enjoying his freedom and recording a new album for
roc-a-fela records under the name dirt mcgirt.


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-10-06 00:10 [#00890880]
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hehe, that's sweet, as a person who listens to very little
rap, I appreciate his style very much.


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2003-10-06 03:50 [#00891040]
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supreme clientele was nice.. it wasnt wu-enough for me to
consider it a real wu-tang album though.. and cherchez la
ghost's presence on that album always prevented me from
fully appreciating it

you have to be really into them and the sound they're known
for to get into a lot of the wu-fam releases.. but for the
most part a lot of stuff from 1998 has become cosistently
increasingly hit-or-miss

raekwon and ghost are two of the most fascinating lyricists
out there

raekwon/ghostface/nas "verbal intercourse" is probably the
best example of the sound I absolutely love rza(/4th
disciple/true master) for

method man is a fucking tool

check these songs:
"soldiers of darkness" sunz of man
"tai chi" killah priest
"sunshower" wu-tang clan
"diesel" wu-tang clan
"marvel" ghostface killah
"iron maiden" ghostface killah
"camay" ghostface killah
"slang editorial" cappadonna

also, rza produced a song called "the world of susie wong"
which samples the doors' "soft parade" for last emporer..
it's great.

finally, rza has a great opportunity with his scoring of
"Kill Bill" I hope he doesn't drop the fucking ball on this
one.


 

offline hobbes from age on 2003-10-06 06:42 [#00891227]
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enter the 36 chambers was (is) amazing....tical i also rate
highly with raekwons first album and the gza s first
album...but then it all went tdownhill for me...though the
soundtrack (japanese version) of ghost dog is raw as fuck
and actually quite brilliant...

all that to say i agree with ecnadniarb.


 

offline Archrival on 2003-10-06 06:51 [#00891236]
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His new album Birth of a Prince got some very strong tracks
and some weak ones.

This album is a evolution concept album where he goes from
his "BAD" persona Bobby Digital to become the wise on Prince
Rakeem. Its all about the transformation.

The best tracks are the last track where he is Rakeem.

check out the track THE BIRTH from the new album, its
absolutely fucking beautiful and SEE THE JOY is also amazing
(in this track he describe hes life as a sperm).

Other track worth mentioning that u can download (and
eventully buy the album if u like it ofcourse) is A DAY TO
GOD IS A 1000 YEARS and THE GRITS.

Also worth checking if u like RZA is the collabo track he
did with a french house producer (his name is iCube) called
Can U Deal With that, the remix is much better and none of
the versions are house so it all good ;)


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2003-10-06 07:35 [#00891261]
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I've never heard of that iCube thing..

the whole bobby digital concept has been fumbled and has
been so half-baked from the start.. the concept applied to
this was actually the one used for "Digital Bullet" ..
that's why the last couple of tracks were the transforming..
and the last track was called "The Sickness" .. it was
supposed to lead into "The [long delayed and most likely
never to be released] Cure" album.

hobbes.. "Ironman" the last of the great wu-tang albums
before "Forever" is just as good as those albums you
mentioned.. it's the last one fully produced by RZA


 


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