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offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2003-10-05 12:34 [#00890153]
Points: 6265 Status: Addict | Followup to tolstoyed: #00890113



yeah you would he apparently made most of it all that time
ago and one of his family would have released it for him for
cash


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-10-05 12:36 [#00890161]
Points: 16065 Status: Regular | Followup to redrum: #00890145



ah thank god for unbiased well argumented opinions eh :P



 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2003-10-05 12:48 [#00890174]
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ah but come on, the only halfway decent bjork songs i've
heard (2 in total) are remixes (a funkstorung one and a
dillinja one).

she needs to be given a good kick to the head.
</opinion>


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-10-05 12:51 [#00890183]
Points: 50073 Status: Moderator



i like bjork and i was into her music before i was into
rdj's, just saying this if i wasnt clear about it :)


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2003-10-05 14:32 [#00890301]
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You gotta remember charts only tell you how fast something
sells - If everyone bought Druqks in the first week (like
mainstream pop kids do) it'd easily reach number 1 in any
chart.
Selling 30,000 in a week usually gets you a number one in
the UK (I think that's right!) - You can prolly get there on
a lot less.
Just a different kind of market in our scene - If IDM was in
the charts and had commerical pressure, imagine consultants,
etc... we'd all move on to Avant Garde or some other new
scene would spring up, even more leftfield and
unapproachable than the last.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-10-05 14:38 [#00890311]
Points: 50073 Status: Moderator | Followup to J Swift: #00890301



ok, charts are not something to judge by... but when it
comes to final sellings idm artists are nowhere compared to
more popular artists



 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-10-05 14:42 [#00890317]
Points: 19190 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag



I wouldn't mind it becoming more popular, wouldn't affect me
in the least since I don't watch TV or listen to the radio
anyway. So in that respect, it wouldn't be
overkill/overplayed. The only IDM album you can buy in the
many stores we have in this city is the Richard D. James
Album, that's a major pain the ass. Plus I don't know
anybody personally that likes this stuff. It's alienating
and I'm so cold and lonely and sad.

Although the elitist aspect of it is undeniably fun. The
reactions of Good Charlotte fans to Confield or Snares is
always entertaining, I don't think I'd want to give that up.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-10-05 14:46 [#00890323]
Points: 50073 Status: Moderator



also you can see how unpopular this scene is when you attend
some festival of electronic music - people/fans come from
all over the world and the biggest (idm) festivals could
attract no more than 10.000 poeple - actually for this many
there would really have to be a strong lineup. on the other
hand, see any of britney spears concerts and there's surely
more than 10.000 attending...btw, i like smaller crowds :)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-10-05 14:50 [#00890329]
Points: 50073 Status: Moderator | Followup to Ophecks: #00890317



i dont think it would affest me either, but i'd really like
to see what people think makes this genre so unpopular...


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-10-05 14:52 [#00890334]
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Yeah, there's some BOC songs that you'd think would go over
well with the general public (and some that wouldn't... like
Devil is in the Details)... but there seems to be some
stigma in pop music. No vocals= no chance.


 

offline uzim on 2003-10-05 14:53 [#00890335]
Points: 17716 Status: Lurker



i don't know anyone in real life who enjoys idm apart from
my brother : )

(but i don't know much people in real life anyway)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-10-05 14:57 [#00890343]
Points: 50073 Status: Moderator | Followup to Ophecks: #00890334



yes, seems like vocals are pretty important, i know when i
played music to people that dont know afx, they seemed to
enjoy especially tunes with at least some vocals, like
"every day" and such

i'd love to see rdj do a vocal release someday, with tom
waits for example :)


 

offline aquagak from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-10-05 14:58 [#00890345]
Points: 4399 Status: Regular | Followup to uzim: #00890335



same here uzim


 

offline aquagak from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-10-05 15:01 [#00890351]
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the australian popularity of afx can be seen over at the
big day out 2004 MB do a search and you'll find most of them only
know about come to daddy and windowlicker, a few know about
drukqs and the rest of rich's work they have no clue


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-10-06 14:32 [#00891703]
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any more thoughts on this?


 

offline Spikee Dragon from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-06 15:11 [#00891768]
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J Swift pretty much had it covered here I think.

The pop chart consists of tracks that are forced exposure.
Big record labels are more like companies producing products
that they can afford to advertise on TV. The common
denominator will buy the tracks with the most exposure like
you buying a can of pepsi every day but not having a clue
what cappy tastes like because you have not yet sought an
alternative for any reason. Braindance, AFX and the like are
craftsmen, they produce tracks that are very complicated
with new sounds and styles. Pepsi don't give a shit that you
are drinking sugar and caffeine as much as EMI don't mind
that you are buying wanked out pop tracks. Because you grow
up hearing the music with the most exposure when you are
suddenly given a drill n bass track to listen to you most
likely won't be able to comprehend it for a while unless you
are sharp enough to. But IDM does not equal the underground,
you have so many more forms of music that don't touch the
charts also.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-10-06 17:00 [#00891884]
Points: 50073 Status: Moderator | Followup to Spikee Dragon: #00891768



i understand what you're saying, but really there isnt much
of a difference between afx and bjork for someone not so
much into this type of music...except for vocals ofcourse
looks like its all up to promotion then...i mean what would
happen if afx signed for a big record company? if they were
promoting his music would it get more popular? according to
what you say it would and that is a thought i can live with
:)


 


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