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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-30 10:17 [#00884051]
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check it out.. freegans are nuts. for anyone who doubts, this is real; i know a girl who went freegan for a long time, living off of thrown-away food. talk about letting your ideals get the best of you.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-30 10:21 [#00884056]
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wow.
that's pretty strange.
good ol' subtle opinions.. "Most fall in te happy medium who would rather eat a load of bread with whey in it than make a $2 donation to the corporate death machine."
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-09-30 10:33 [#00884073]
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He he, they don't seem to realise that by going through the skip at the back of macdonalds they're still living off the "evil machine".
There's some weird pseudo-religious thing whereby people believe they don't need to eat at all. Some weird cult convinces college students that they can live on air alone and as a result, they die. What's particularly sick is that the cult leaders evidently eat as they survive...
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-09-30 10:36 [#00884078]
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stupid extreme anticapitalists thinking they can solve the problem that way
if you want to make a difference, start using your brain and do things on a bigger scale then eating shit from diapers
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-09-30 10:37 [#00884081]
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Hmm, again, this still relys on the corporate machine, but you're also screwing over other people as well! Great...
"Scams/Shoplifting - There are a slew of shady ways to score free food...always let your consious be yuor guide!
Shoplifting - There is some debate over how freegan this really is because you are still creating an empty shelf that must be restocked, but it is more reegan than forking over big bucks. This is a more direct attack on the store selling the goods, not the producer (unles you hyper-boycott a product: pick something you can't stand and consistently get it off the shelves, steal it, break it, hide it, just eliminate it and the store will eventually stop selling it) so you should consider if you are putting a ma & pa organic veggie stand our of business or just chipping away at a corporate giant.
Employee Theft - Some folks believe this to be more ethical than shoplifting because it is a trade-off: they steal your time and energy and you steal their food. If you work somewhere that sucks, hook yourself up, hook up your friends, hook up strangers, hook up your local FNB! I have heard tales of a kid who feeds a three-person household of his workplace acquisitions from the health food store. They eat damn good, too! Yuo can also get the insider scoop and may be able to intercept food headed for the dumpster. "
A recent theory of mine is that if you choose not to have children you are freed from your civic duty not to pollute or use up resources. In effect you can use all the stuff your potential descendants would without guilt as you have a "right" to that amount of petrol/ozone damage/rainforest/etc.
What are people's thoughts on that?
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-09-30 10:39 [#00884086]
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retardedly childish, blind for reality, narrowminded, thinking that will solve the worlds problems...
thats all i can make of it
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-09-30 10:42 [#00884092]
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as usual I find some interesting thoughts behind it all, but they way they're doing it is not the key way.
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from So.Flo on 2003-09-30 10:43 [#00884095]
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Hmmm, its a good point. I think people do take advantage of what this world is offering. I dont think you should become a Freegan(unless you feel as if you can) but look at your expenses and your life style.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-09-30 10:45 [#00884101]
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A nice comment from a nice girl. :)
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from So.Flo on 2003-09-30 10:47 [#00884106]
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ohh, youre to kind :D
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uzim
on 2003-09-30 10:52 [#00884115]
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lol anyone dares showing this to a hobo...? =P
seriously. i agree with "Working Sucks", but how can you take seriously a tract that says it like that, and, among others, ends with "** Yo! Copy and Distribute this Document!! :-) **" in big letters?
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uzim
on 2003-09-30 10:53 [#00884121]
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"Water - Don't shower often and when you do, instead of showering, "go swimming" in the shower with a friend - it is fun, explorative, liberating, and consumes less water! Don't flush when you pee! If won't hurt you, pee just sits in the toilet not bothering anyone; it doesn't warrant the 10 gallons per flush just to get rid of it. Wait until you get a good healthy poop in there and then flush it all away. If you don't like the smell of pee stagnating in the toilet, pee outside our dilute your urine (7 water to 1 pee) and fertilize withit or drink it (Gandhi drank a cup of his own pee every day). Also, you can make manure out of your own poop! Or... dumpster dive some adult diapers and have a party where everyone straps one on and fills it up -no water wasted. "
haha ^^ yeeeah, riiiight.
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from So.Flo on 2003-09-30 10:55 [#00884124]
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HAHAHAHA
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mimi
on 2003-09-30 11:04 [#00884136]
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ghandi drank a cup of his own pee every day? yaaaaaa.....
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-09-30 11:10 [#00884144]
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more of these wackadoos need to eat their own poo.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-09-30 11:15 [#00884149]
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... after they left it to rot a couple of weeks
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-30 11:21 [#00884155]
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...rotting poop..?
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-09-30 11:23 [#00884163]
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that's crazie talk!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-30 11:32 [#00884190]
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the girl i know definitely stopped showering and everyone noticed
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uzim
on 2003-09-30 11:58 [#00884221]
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titsworth > why did she..? ' _ ' how is she apart from that?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-30 12:13 [#00884233]
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its ironic that this document is available on the internet, the peak of information technology feeding on billions of watts of electricity produced by countless environment-altering energy collection methods, displayed on expensive computers and monitors full of environmentaly toxic materials and built by the very corporations that they recommend boycotting.
if these freegans really want to give back to the planet, they ought to just mulch themselves.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-30 12:16 [#00884235]
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not to mention the host of spelling and grammatical errors. i guess freegans don't consume education either.
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-09-30 12:16 [#00884236]
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lol!
it's funny cause it's true.
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purlieu
from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-30 12:24 [#00884243]
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Some of that's half true. Most people won't notice if you shower every other day instead of every day. And a few other things.
Most of it is idealistic bollocks, though. If they want to do it, let them. But it all seems incredibly insane to me.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-30 12:28 [#00884250]
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"i dont believe in '-isms'"
Ferris Bueller
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-09-30 12:31 [#00884253]
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(...)"No Jules, you're gonna be like those pieces of shit out there who beg for change. They walk around like a bunch of fuckin' zombies, they sleep in garbage bins, they eat what I throw away, and dogs piss on 'em. They got a word for 'em, they're called bums. And without a job, residence, or legal tender, that's what you're gonna be -- a fuckin' bum!"
-Vincent Vega, Pulp Fiction
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-30 12:33 [#00884258]
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she was weird.. she didn't know all the specifics of the causes she supported, she just blindly adopted them all of a sudden, i guess because she wanted to be different or part of some cool crowd. maybe she thought it was a hippie thing to do to stop showering, to conserve water or something.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-30 12:37 [#00884263]
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hahaha!
nice one!
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-30 12:37 [#00884264]
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i can't see how stealing food from a store, especially the organic fruits that these wacko's are probably eating, is going to help the environment. the more they steal, the more the store has to order from farms that will need to increase in size to compensate for larger demand. larger farms use more resources and more pesticides. Organic farms, because of a lack of pesticides and fertilizers have to use even more than regular farms.
not to mention, the store will likely have to tighten security, which means more "slaves" working for the store as security guards. and more electronic surveilance equipment eating up more electricity.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-30 12:38 [#00884266]
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in my experiance... 90% of people who are into some alternative life styles, or thinking usually dont know even 1/4th of whats behind it.
Perhaps there heart is in the right place... but its hard to take them seriously when you start talking to them, and realize that they dont really know what they are talking about.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-30 12:42 [#00884271]
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...condescending
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-09-30 12:42 [#00884272]
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*nods*
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-30 12:45 [#00884273]
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touche
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-09-30 13:27 [#00884302]
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that's... well it's stupid.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-09-30 13:45 [#00884323]
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heh, im not surprised theres something this extreme, another one of the 'in theory its good but in reaity its not' ideas.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-30 13:47 [#00884326]
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i think it doesnt even really work in theory either... cause you are still consuming the "corperate" food... just not paying for it.
if you really want to bypass all this... go out, live in the woods, and grow your own food or something.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-09-30 22:24 [#00884742]
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Working Sucks - Where does the money you spend come from? You or your folks working long hours at a dehumanizing job, most likely. You don't have to compromise yourself and your humanity to the evil demon of wage-slavery! Working sucks and if a little scavenging can keep you from needing a job than go jump in a dumpster! Even if you do need to work to pay your bills, think about how much less you would have to work if you didn't have to buy food.
don't forget you'll have to work to pay off the MEDICAL BILLS from all the illness you'll get from eating BAD food! yipes.......peepz sometimes GOOD food is thrown away, but MOST times it's just BAD food.....but i guess they expect the rest of us werkin' schleps to pay for their medical care when they get sick from this.
i say grow a garden and live off that, if you wanna be NON commercial....at least you'll be eating fresh things and making things grow....oye!
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