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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-23 21:50 [#00875823]
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One thing I've noticed, compared to ther musical genres, is how many IDM phans make their own music...
(and some of it is top notch stuff stuff ; you know who you are...)...
Just outta personal interest, any theories why this should be?....
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-23 21:52 [#00875828]
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because its hard to come by... so people feel compelled to make their own?
*shrug*
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-09-23 21:52 [#00875830]
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i guess IDM is more challenging than most genres, perhaps?
i've even been making music recently, but i've nowhere to post it yet.
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-23 21:53 [#00875831]
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The technology is within reach of the average person more these days than ever before.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-23 21:55 [#00875833]
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Hard to come by?....you kids never heard of Soulseek :)...
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-09-23 21:55 [#00875834]
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"Ultimately what is so great about electronic music is that you can do things that are beyond a pair of hands." -Tom Jenkinson
other genres you need more than a computer program: guitar, drums, vocal ability, etc.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-23 21:56 [#00875836]
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pachi...if plans go ok, then I believe Phob is going to offer web space for budding IDM'ers....
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Clic
on 2003-09-23 21:56 [#00875837]
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It's a lot easier to "afford" (read: steal) software than it is more conventional music instruments.
That may be one reason anyway. Just the idea that it's easily accessible.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-23 21:57 [#00875839]
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thats my AIM info! :-P
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-23 21:58 [#00875841]
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"Ultimately what is so great about electronic music is that
you can do things that are beyond a pair of hands." -Tom Jenkinson
WOW, I'm so inspired by these words of wisdom, how does he do it?
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2003-09-23 21:59 [#00875843]
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Yeah it's all because it's so easy to get into - If you can download an mp3, you can download Logic/Waves stuff/Sound trackers, etc... no problem...
A lot of kids into punk music play guitar/drums - It's a little harder 'cos it actually takes at least a year to get good enough with any of those instruments to be of any use - And it ends up costing quite a bit I guess... But with Reason or something you can effectively make your own passable electronic music with absolutely no ability/ideas/skill/talent atall... You can - Not saying that's the case though! It's just MUCH cheaper and easier to get into these days... And IDM is so abstract you can make passable music be doing little more than cutting up Amen breaks and adding sound effects...
It's still the hardest music in the world to do well though.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-09-23 22:00 [#00875844]
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Even the most unpopular weirdo can make some electronic music, whereas to form an actual BAND, you need... people.
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-23 22:06 [#00875847]
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Like I said...........
"The technology is within reach of the average person more these days than ever before"
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-23 22:08 [#00875848]
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well, I also personally think that the technology is within the reach of the average person more these days then ever before
I cant beleive no one pointed that out yet!
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-09-23 22:12 [#00875849]
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copied and pasted direct from mr. zeus "the thunder storm" kcinsu's aim profile
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-23 22:13 [#00875850]
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I cant believe I pointed it out twice for you to just go ahead & point that out
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-09-23 22:14 [#00875851]
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plus most people have computers now anyways
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-09-23 22:15 [#00875852]
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i didn't quite finish my thought:
plus most people have computers now anyways, no one keeps a guitar around to look at dirty pictures or type up school papers
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-23 22:15 [#00875853]
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All this pointing stuff out is becoming rather pointless & frankly it's downright rude
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-09-23 22:17 [#00875854]
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i want naked ladies
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iBAN
from Brisvegas (Australia) on 2003-09-23 22:41 [#00875858]
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anyone can do idm..u dont need any musical knowledge to write it, dont need any instruments, and most people have computers anyway...
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-09-23 23:16 [#00875861]
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sounds like good news.
cheers =)
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2003-09-23 23:20 [#00875862]
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I think everyone should make their own music.
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-24 00:00 [#00875867]
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Yeah, then we could all comunicate through it, & people would evolve & become whales
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-09-24 00:18 [#00875868]
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because generally idm is sort of smartish nerdish music. people make idm on computers, people who listen to idm generally know how to use computers. Therefore it's a simple transition between listening to idm and knowing how to use computers to listening to idm and knowing how to use computers and actually making idm on computers.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-09-24 00:20 [#00875871]
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whoa shit i pooped a paragraph!
LOFL
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-09-24 00:36 [#00875877]
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i think id say the same of indie rock everybody i know who listens to it can play guitar
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-09-24 00:37 [#00875878]
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well, i know i wouldn't be making "music" if it weren't stuff like this. i'm really not all that "musical" (some of you might agree with me after hearing some of my tracks. hehehe), so this makes things a lot easier for me. *shrugs*
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-09-24 04:47 [#00876022]
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My usual response is to this is that IDM is nearest to (computer) programming in the way it is written- tracksers are in hex, supercollider is a procedural language, you can actually write csound bits in LISP, things like buzz/audiomulch are not entirely different to graphical object oriented programming etc.
As Od pointed out, a lot of us who listen to idm tend to work with, or at least are able to use, a computer and are generally quite technically proficient. As a result when it comes to making music, we are able to learn even the more complex programs very quickly and hence generate "passable" music even if we have little musical talent. In much the same way as almost anyone could use "ejay X" to make any other genre of music.
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Dr Hab
from some place on 2003-09-24 05:17 [#00876042]
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Ok guys! The most musical genres are: - CLASSICS - - JAZZ - No rock, no electronica, no hip hop, no reggae, no f**kin` pop..
But I love dat shit!
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