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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-09-22 13:10 [#00873627]
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drums or melody ?
for example vordhosbn. what do you think was more difficult to create or learn ?
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-09-22 13:11 [#00873630]
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that's a crazy question. It totally depends on the situation.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-09-22 13:11 [#00873632]
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Please change your avatar.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-09-22 13:12 [#00873636]
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Oh and while we're at it ~
It does depend. However I'll say percussion. Takes more creativity and with melody you can get lucky.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-09-22 13:13 [#00873637]
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hmm i think beats in idm and melody in everything else
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-09-22 13:13 [#00873638]
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beats are certainly the most tedious to make.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-09-22 13:14 [#00873641]
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is it really ?
i mean i'm now in the moment that i can say that i can make really good drums, but my melodies are pityful...
xammax: i'll think about that. i have the coolest one on the board
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-09-22 13:15 [#00873645]
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Percussion would maybe take longer, more intricate, etc... but you could get better at it, work at it, perfect it.
But I think melodic talent is something you're born with. You've either got the gift, or you don't, and if you're not melodically inclined, you'll never ''learn'' to be anything more than average. Paul McKawtney can't read or write music, while Yngwie Malmsteen can stick a thousand notes on top of each other, and somehow still suck. Richie has the gift, so it's all gravy.
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atgmartin
from DeathMallMegaComplexville (United States) on 2003-09-22 13:15 [#00873646]
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I say drums in anything. You can have a great melody, but less-than-creative beats can render it ho-hum at best.
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atgmartin
from DeathMallMegaComplexville (United States) on 2003-09-22 13:16 [#00873647]
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That being said, I do not have any full songs together yet, so I shouldn't even talk.
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2003-09-22 13:18 [#00873650]
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something strange happened. i came to this forum to hear something about "vordhosbn", random thing i know. First topic i click on mentions vordhosbn. is that weird or what
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-09-22 13:20 [#00873652]
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don't agree with that. even the most wicked drums get boring after a while when there's nowthing playing in the deep...
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Clic
on 2003-09-22 13:21 [#00873656]
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Good structure.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-09-22 13:22 [#00873658]
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happens sometime
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-09-22 14:06 [#00873692]
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it depends on how you emphasize them.
what i do is try and achieve balance. for example, when i have a melody goin, i try not to saturate the drums, but when the melody steps out i eccentuate the drums like mad and have a drum solo.
this may sound kinda weird, but it's comparable to two different groups having a discussion. if you try and max out both the melody and drums, it's like both groups shouting out a bunch of words that no one can comprehend.
it's all about balance and harmony really.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-09-22 14:17 [#00873705]
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Drums, defently....
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-09-22 14:25 [#00873717]
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not so definately at all... many different answers
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-09-22 14:26 [#00873719]
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For IDM, track titles are an underrated aspect of the creative process... you GOTTA make them hip enough, cutting edge!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-09-22 14:31 [#00873724]
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It all depends. Drums should sound organic most of the time, but if you use drill 'n' bass or afx-ish drums, you should make it sound organic AND syntethic. There should always be organic "matter" present. (hint: shuffle quantizing).
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-22 14:34 [#00873732]
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Parp.....
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-09-22 14:43 [#00873746]
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parp ? explain
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-22 15:09 [#00873778]
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Well... I became very interested in super intricate percussiony type sounds especially after being inspired by the rdj album, come 2 daddy, and feed me weird things... and then later even crazier more organic and twisted stuff like 8000 bc, and lp5. I finally found a great way to mass produce highly intricate percussion myself using my patented triple octave snarkle technique. So this type of percussion is fairly easy for me now. And I've always loved melody but usually sucked at it. Now I'm improving (I wish I could make something now but my computer has no sound) because I realized how I was doing it pretty much wrong. You just can't treat melody like percussion if you want it to sound good. THe new rules in their construction don't involve lots of copy/paste editing/mixing.. instead you basically make anything using white keys only but never play simultaneous adjacent keys, at least that's what I'm finding out. It's also best to make the sounds used in melody have some sort of interesting structural quality like crunch and autechre always do.. ex. tilapia.
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