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offline Amnesiac from ERIE (United States) on 2003-09-21 09:57 [#00871968]
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Does everyone here agree that being straight edge is the
dumbest thing since Men Without Hats?


 

offline Morgoth from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-09-21 10:09 [#00871979]
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no, it's not dumb, it's just the choice of some people not
to use any drugs, and as long as they don't have an attitude
about it, it's totally okay.


 

offline AK47 on 2003-09-21 10:14 [#00871988]
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I love Fugazi, Meat Beat Manifesto and Consolidated so there
:P


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-21 10:18 [#00871990]
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i think its totally ridiculous


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-21 10:20 [#00871991]
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somebody care to tell me the definition of 'straight edge' ?
i've heard of it but i dont really remember.

i'm also missing the meaning of 'men without hats' if there
is one.

damn sundays


 

offline nacmat on 2003-09-21 10:21 [#00871992]
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sex?


 

offline APeSHiTZ from ¤BANgbANG¤ on 2003-09-21 10:38 [#00872010]
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i know a "straight edge " EMO kid, who is tryin to be a
player.....

That is rediculous......
fuckin hypocrite...

being strait edge isnt that stupid..... i dont really care


 

offline AK47 on 2003-09-21 10:42 [#00872012]
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What is ridculous about it? Do you not like the music or the
movement? Things can seem stupid a decade later, its like
Farrah Fawcet Hairdos straight edge is product of the late
80's early nineties and it was a reaction/backlash against
the Nazi skinheads who are ridculous...


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-09-21 10:43 [#00872015]
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It has some good points.


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2003-09-21 10:44 [#00872016]
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I don't think it's stupid. It's a lifestyle choice. I
don't personally practice it, and I really can't stand the
music that's associated with sXe, but hey, you're not
hurting anyone (and it's a healthier way to live, too).



 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2003-09-21 10:45 [#00872017]
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Straight edge is basically not using any alcohol, drugs, or
having any promiscuous sex. Might be some other stuff too.



 

offline roer-ei from Netherlands, The on 2003-09-21 10:46 [#00872018]
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it's silly to call yourself straight edge
seems to reduce it to a shallow fad subgroup instead of just
something you want to do


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-21 10:56 [#00872025]
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yeh, exactly.
it seems to me a solution for people who are so insecure
they feel desperate to fit into some social group, im sure
most of the time these people you see calling themselves sXe
don't really agree with it, they just think its cool or
something


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-09-21 11:01 [#00872027]
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I think being vegetarian is also included...
but I am not sure.


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-09-21 11:05 [#00872033]
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whatever floats your boat.


 

offline Morgoth from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-09-21 14:56 [#00872244]
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A lot of Straight Edge people are vegetarian, but in the
'origingal definition' (as far as there is an original
definition) it was most definately not included, although
Ian McKaye, from minor threat who wrote the song "the
straight edge", is a vegetarian.


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2003-09-21 14:58 [#00872247]
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i'm "straight edge".


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-09-21 15:02 [#00872251]
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huh


 

offline danbrusca from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-21 15:15 [#00872265]
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Fuck that.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-09-21 15:22 [#00872273]
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parrdon me... i meant to say WTF!!!???!!!


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-09-21 15:50 [#00872333]
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"no, it's not dumb, it's just the choice of some people not
to use any drugs, and as long as they don't have an attitude
about it, it's totally okay."

what Morgoth said


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-09-21 15:53 [#00872341]
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i'm not surre i agrree. i think it is lame that they
can't simply accept that they don't want to do it, and
instead have to invent a shit name forr it, a 'crrew' to be
in. and even worrse you can't even say it. sXe.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-09-21 15:58 [#00872350]
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who cares


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2003-09-21 15:58 [#00872354]
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Nah, they just make this shit up to scare people like me


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2003-09-21 16:00 [#00872357]
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the name's easily the worst bit. sXe is too close to
phonetic sexy for my liking. how ironic


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-09-21 16:01 [#00872360]
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i'm prretty pissed off overr the whole thing at the moment,
i have to be honest.


 

offline big from lsg on 2003-09-21 16:05 [#00872365]
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yeah, what a stupid name, never heard of it, i thought
"straight edge" was stupid, being all tough being a
vegetarian, i'm a vegetarian and i'm a wus (how's that
spelled)


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2003-09-21 16:13 [#00872374]
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i'm a veggie as well and i don't think i could be less
militant about it. sorry to be all intolerant n shit but
seriously, fuck sXe.


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-09-21 16:18 [#00872377]
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but understand their reaction to an entire culture that
completely accepts drugs/alcohol/sex

it's all lame. living to be part of ANY scene is lame, that
is why it's so hard to like rock music now.

still, if they don't force it on you, let them have their
style


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2003-09-21 16:47 [#00872412]
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Yeah, I choose to not drink or do drugs, but I'm not part
of any "scene". It's just a lifestyle choice. I don't
identify with a particular subculture like the sXe's do.

It's like any social group. People want to be accepted by
other people who have the same interests and opinions.
That's why we are members of this messageboard. A lot of
people don't listen to the music we love and its nice to
have a place to come to to talk about it.

Same with sXe; it's an incredible minority in this world,
and you always get shit for not choosing to take part in
stuff, so thats why they have formed their little clique.


 

offline big from lsg on 2003-09-21 16:52 [#00872415]
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sure, but you have groups and groups. though i always felt
myself to special to be in a group, i think some groups are
cooler than others (i like goth's now, they're sweet). i
dont like the 'i'm left and militant about it'-group,
though, like squaders, too. i think that's terribly
hypocrit


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-09-21 16:52 [#00872417]
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I'm very straight-edge in my behavior... no sex, drugs or
rock and/or roll here. Church every Sunday, cat lover... you
can see my halo. But within me is a deviant darkness, God
help you and yours if I ever reach my potential.


 

offline big from lsg on 2003-09-21 16:55 [#00872424]
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kewl, let's start a clique


 

offline Amnesiac from ERIE (United States) on 2003-09-21 18:25 [#00872656]
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the music is amazing, but the 'movement' is bullshit.

Lots of good music is straight edge, check out Bane,
Throwdown, Eighteen Visions and about a zillion other bands


 

offline Amnesiac from ERIE (United States) on 2003-09-21 18:26 [#00872658]
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and for the record Ophecks, sxe kids don't go to church.
Most hate god.


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2003-09-21 18:30 [#00872665]
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i didn't know what the term meant until i entered this
thread (thx for the definition xlr), but if it means to be
free of drugs, alcohol, & sex, then i fall under that
classification. otherwise, i'm really just following my own
lifestyle and not trying to mock some trendy fashion or
whatever.


 

offline Asche XL on 2003-09-21 18:31 [#00872667]
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I don't have gf in which im loyal too and i look down upon
people who abuse alcohol and drugs. Does that make me sXe?
who knows? Who cares? Dat's me!


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2003-09-21 18:32 [#00872670]
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looks like we're in the same boat.


 

offline Asche XL on 2003-09-21 18:33 [#00872672]
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SHIT! I mean I HAVE a gf in which im loyal too. ooops

I love her. =)


 

offline atgmartin from DeathMallMegaComplexville (United States) on 2003-09-21 18:55 [#00872715]
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I've never heard of this before. I don't do drugs, by I
think drug laws are ridiculous. I don't wear that on my
sleeve or try to be part of a scene about it. So I think
this sXe thing is fuckin ridiculous too. Fuck sXe.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-09-21 19:02 [#00872731]
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What drugs have you used? and what did you like/disslike
about them?


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-21 20:13 [#00872826]
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sXe = straight edge = not doing drugs, not drinking, only
sexxing people you care about



 

offline Frag from New Jersey (United States) on 2003-09-21 20:17 [#00872830]
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It's not stupid, it's a good thing that more and more kids
are feeling a sense of unity with others that feel the same
way they do about drugs/promiscuity/whatever...It's used as
a label not to be a fad (although some treat it that way,
but fuck them), but rather for convenience and as i said, a
sense of unity.

I don't really call myself that, but I'm basically
straightedge i just don't go to hard/metal/grindcore
shows.........yet.


 

offline atgmartin from DeathMallMegaComplexville (United States) on 2003-09-21 20:24 [#00872844]
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Drugs I've done = alcohol, a valium prescribed to my cat.
That's it.

I have no problems whatsoever with drugs, except when they
are abused. Why don't I smoke pot? Because it is something
that although there have been plenty of opportunities for me
to try it, I just have not wanted to take on another vice.
At this point, at 29 years old, I just don't think I need
it. Just a personal choice.

However, I sorta wish alcohol and marijuana were reversed in
today's society. There are a number of reasons:
> People high on grass are by and large much more chill and
harmless than people high on booze.
> Drunks are much more dangerous and practice much worse
judgement than people on pot.
> Pot seems like a better drug to be on than booze for the
sake of creativity.
> Booze makes you gain weight.
> I'm sick and tired of seeing TV commercials showing the
evils of pot back to back with beer commercials, when the
number of alcohol-related deaths must easily quadruple the
number of drug related deaths.
> etc.

I'd trade if it didn't stand a chance of losing me my job.


 

offline atgmartin from DeathMallMegaComplexville (United States) on 2003-09-21 20:27 [#00872847]
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I wish people would stop trying to label and pigeonhole
everything and everybody. It's just marginalization waiting
to happen. Yesterday I had no idea; today I just think of
sXe as another foolish gaggle of losers looking for a niche
in the next episode of Dawson's Creek.


 

offline Frag from New Jersey (United States) on 2003-09-21 20:33 [#00872852]
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i totally agree with you on the alcohol/weed thing...except
the possibility of weed secondhand smoke thing...


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2003-09-21 21:02 [#00872876]
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I also agree on the alcohol/weed debacle. Listen to bill
hicks talk about the subject, its' funny and true.


 

offline Frag from New Jersey (United States) on 2003-09-21 21:04 [#00872878]
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Was he the one that said all writers are alcoholics and not
potheads, because nobody wants to read a poem about
twinkies?


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-09-21 21:09 [#00872883]
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SHUT THE FUCK UP ALL OF YOU

:hides large x's on back of hands:


 

offline mashnote from mol (Belgium) on 2003-09-22 09:57 [#00873381]
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beerXedge !

i have sXe friends and i go to HC shows & drink beer.
They're cool about the whole thing.



 


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