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offline electro from detroit on 2003-09-19 19:04 [#00870640]
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so....
i heared that the matris was invented in the dr who tv
series
i have not seen dr who in years and i dont remember much
do you?
time travel?
virtual reality?



 

offline nlogax from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-09-19 19:06 [#00870642]
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real virtuality


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-19 19:09 [#00870644]
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I wouldn't be surprised if they used a similar idea in the
series, but I doubt it originated there. Most ideas in TV
science fiction can be traced to short stories from the 30s
and 40s.

I remember in fact, and mentioned here recently, a story
where people paid money to be hooked up permanently to
virtual reality machines endlessly playing their favorite
fantasies while they stayed alive on life support systems.

Now the plot twist that the machines are farming the humans
for their neural electricity is probably unique, and so
fucking dumb that none of the classic sci fi writers from
the golden era would have come up with it.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-09-19 19:12 [#00870647]
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any sonic screwdrivers or multi-cloloured scarfs in the
matrix?


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-19 19:17 [#00870648]
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the Doctor wins every time.

the Matrix just SUXX.


 

offline electro from detroit on 2003-09-19 19:25 [#00870654]
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matrix doest suck
it is good
like dr who is good too
matrix is different.....well in some ways


 

offline Job a boj from Land of the Lost Timezone! (Canada) on 2003-09-19 19:33 [#00870666]
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the matrix is good, but they keep fuckign putting twists on
it, and its getting quite dumb


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-19 19:42 [#00870671]
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no.

you're quite clearly confusing "good" and "bad" in this
case.


 

offline electro from detroit on 2003-09-19 19:59 [#00870681]
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i just haad a klarg gin
i am confused


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-19 20:04 [#00870685]
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That speech by the architect character - did they run some
text through a randomizing program or something? It made no
sense.

I think the next twist is that "reality" - Zion and the
outside world - is also inside the matrix and the whole
drama is just to coax a few more millivolts of juice out of
the humans. That's why Neo was able to zap the sentinels -
he still has his powers because they're still in the matrix.


 

offline electro from detroit on 2003-09-19 20:05 [#00870686]
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i am waiting for a huge surprise at the end



 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-19 20:08 [#00870687]
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"it was all a dream" and then keanu goes surfing


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-19 20:11 [#00870688]
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the architects speech sounds like they had a really simple
speech and then just crammed in every word of 4 syllables or
more they could think of in there.

bleh.

he actually doesn't say very much.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-19 20:11 [#00870689]
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..the surprise being you actually paid to see that
crap.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-09-19 20:16 [#00870690]
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dr who had more realistic aliens


 

offline Joyrex from watmm.com (United States) on 2003-09-19 22:36 [#00870824]
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Being the big Doctor Who fan I am, I'll fill you in:

The Matrix in Doctor Who refers to a huge databank
repository that stores the histories and lives of all the
Time Lords (the Doctor's race) on the planet Gallifrey (his
homeworld). The Doctor journeyed into the Matrix several
times in his adventures, first in 1980 in The Deadly
Assassin, where the Doctor entered the matrix by connecting
his brain to the computer that drives the matrix... it was
repesented as an uber-reality where the doctor's arch-enemy,
the Master, controlled reality and seemingly impossible
things happened and were possible (sound familiar, eh?).
The Doctor went into the Matrix again in 1982 in "The Arc Of
Infinity" where the Doctor was trapped in the matrix by
Omega, the greatest Time Lord who ever lived. He entered one
last time in 1986 in "The Ultimate Foe" (part four of the
Trial Of A Time Lord mini-series) and battled the
distillation of his darker side, the Valleyard, for control
of the Matrix and his remaining regenerations.

Funny, I never looked at The Matrix movies in that context -
I suppose they could have copied Doctor Who, but most likely
it's a coincodence.


 

offline Jaysuz Jones from Wasaga Beach (Canada) on 2003-09-19 22:40 [#00870828]
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Sorry, I gotta give it to Dr. Who, seeing as how one of my
favourite comedic authors of all time, Douglas Adam, made
his name with that classic show.


 

offline Jaysuz Jones from Wasaga Beach (Canada) on 2003-09-19 22:40 [#00870829]
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And Dr. Who's Theme !


 

offline Job a boj from Land of the Lost Timezone! (Canada) on 2003-09-20 02:15 [#00870915]
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I actually thought about a duel layered matrix as well Fleet
Mouse, but if they go and do that, alot of people are gonna
get confused because the general population probably cant
comprehend that.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-09-20 02:19 [#00870920]
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afterr 20 morre matrix films it ends... 'and then Neo
woke up it had all been a drream... the end'
, like so
many of my shorrt storries at school ended, damn i was so
orriginal.


 

offline electro from detroit on 2003-09-20 07:06 [#00871025]
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cooool
thanx for this unfo
you rock joyrex


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-20 07:49 [#00871037]
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Bwahahaha you're probably right. :D


 

offline Komakino from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-09-20 08:01 [#00871039]
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Dr Who is better of course.

it had Tom Baker (dont care about the rest) and Ron
Granier's theme is amazing.



 

offline Komakino from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-09-20 08:06 [#00871040]
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by the way: "The Deadly Assassin" was in '76.


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2003-09-20 08:13 [#00871043]
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dr who wins on theme for me

the bbc radiophonic workshop was 10 years ahead of its time
and yet it was just a theme tune


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-09-20 23:36 [#00871714]
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AHAHHA......riight realistic aliens.....ehehehheh

the first matrix was GOOD, but that reloaded crap shoulda
stayed on the cutting room floor......all O it!

dr WHO is campy fun, everytime i watched it i just
laughed.....ehehheh

*chuckles*



 

offline kochlear from aud-stim.com on 2003-09-21 01:31 [#00871744]
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what? am i the only one hear who loves everything matrix?
come on! it's kung fu! and it's green!


 

offline roer-ei from Netherlands, The on 2003-09-21 04:27 [#00871782]
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"matrix within a matrix" isn't that much of a shocker ending
y'know

and it's a bit lame


 

offline electro from detroit on 2003-09-21 07:17 [#00871842]
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love the dr who theme
the time lords mix and the orbital mix
i am going to go and listen to it now!


 

offline Joyrex from watmm.com (United States) on 2003-09-22 08:23 [#00873275]
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You're right - I remembered after I posted (all this damn
electronic music knowledge fighting for space with my Star
Wars/Doctor Who knowledge) :)

Electro: The Time Lords (in regards to the mix you speak of)
is an alias of the KLF.


 

offline electro from detroit on 2003-09-22 19:19 [#00874129]
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yeah i know they are
!!!!
EXTERMINATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-09-22 19:24 [#00874131]
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shrug, I enjoyed both matrix movies a lot!!


 

offline scup_bucket from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2003-09-22 19:31 [#00874136]
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i loved matrix. i hated reloaded more than any movie i've
ever seen. i didn't even have high hopes for it and still i
was dissapointed beyond words. then everyone raves about how
awesome it is: "are you fucking insane!"


 

offline electro from detroit on 2003-09-22 19:44 [#00874142]
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i liked both movies too
i am so looking forward for the third one

yet dr who is deeper and longer
you get more in a tv series than loading two hours with
thousnd things


 


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