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I am one who usually practices lucid dreaming (being able to dream, realize you're dreaming, and thus taking control of your dream and doing some cool shit). It's a pretty good experience. Unfortunetely, lats night, I had my first real lucid nightmare. I went to bed at about 1am, and ended up waking up at aruond 230. It was the longest lasting dream i've ever had in my entire life. I know it started in a hotel room with a bunch of my buddies, and there was a big hockey game on (I'm not even tht big of a hockey fan) Anyways, it came down to the wire, and somehow the goalie (it was his last game before he retired or whatever) and he was a real famous player, blah blah, anyways, so he somehow gets the puck and skates down the ice to score. He wins the game for them, everyone's cheering. The people int he stadium go wild, we in our hotel room go wild, cheering screaming etc. Then in his exhileration, the goalie who just scored the winning goal and whose now retiring (it was his last game) does a backwards flip on the ice and catches his neck somehow and WHAM. His fucking head is turned around on his body. It's so fucking clear in my head, it was the scariest thing i've ever seen. Everyone was still cheering they didn't notice it, then slowly everything started turning from cheering into screams. We went nuts in our hotel room, like WHOLLY FUCKING SHIT etc etc. and I'm like "they are never going to show that again" and sure enough they didn't. So I was trying to get my friend to jump on kazaa to see if the clip was up there yet (big game, sure many ppl were taping it). From there it spawned. I lost a lot of details becaues when I woke up everything was so clear I immediately tried to forget it all. The dream lasted 'days'. Finally to some point I was realizing I was dreaming and tried to wake up. |
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Nothing. I remember doing all sorts of driving around, being chased, and the image of the backwards head that was fucking BURNED (even now) in my head. It was so scary. I tried waking up, nothing. I tried spazzing out in my dream, just going crazy in my mind to try and get myself to wake up. Nothing. Finally I woke up. Ok, did I really wake up or no? I was back continuing my dream again. I tried biting my finger or pinching myself for pain. I could almost feel it, I like had tricked my brain into feeling a sharp sense. But I couldnt tell exactely what it was. This continued for ever. It was by far the longest dream i've ever had. All these crazy things were happening ((again, lost a lot of details, )) and I kept tryign to force myself to wake up. Again I woke up, but It was just another day, and I was still in my dream. By this point I was so scared, I couldn't wake up from this dream no matter how hard I tried. Eventually I fucking woke up. It felt like I was 30ft deep in a lake, and I was swimming up to the surface. Took me forever to get there (and out of my dream into wake state) I fucking sat up in my bed, basically in fucking tears. I could't beleive it. The backwards head was BURNED in my head. All the shit just raced through. It was about 1.5hours after I had went to bed, I was all fucking hot and sweaty and breathing heavy, I couldn't catch my breath. I was so fuckign scared, I tell you, i've never been that scared in my life. I can't even type it out. I didn't go to bed for another 45minutes or so. I layed in my bed, so uncomfortable, so scared, and finally fell back asleep again, jeezous christ I wish I could tell you how scary it was. nothing ilke that has ever happened, and it almost drove me to tears. wow. |
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it's a stage in life, soon (hopefully) you will grow out of it. you will take the knowledge you have acquired about yourself and others, and use it to better your understanding of the world. |
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heh thx for quoting me gg DRUKQS |
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so, now you wont do lucid dreaming anymore? |
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i haven't had a dream in a couple of months. |
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no alls i can say well i cant put it into words my day has been pretty fucked up i was pretty shakin up over it ive never in the past couple years had any thing remotely like that happen i was fucking trapped jeezous christ some of you may understand, others may not, but ive NEVER, EVER , EVER in all my times of lucid dreaming had anything close ot that happening. fuck ive never had a dream effect me so much like this in the real world, ive been rpetty shakin up all day beleive it or not, sigh, oh well ive been 'trapped' in lucid dreams that i havnt been able to wake from before, but nothing as terrifying as this, never have had so much panic through my mind and body as last night. :( |
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i hate stuff in my mind i cant control, when i had a bad trip from weed once, i was scared i might not get out of it already. learn how to get out of it, you couldnt just have a cold shower? i dont like the idea of lucid dreaming anyway, still will try someday |
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wel sometimes it just 'comes' to you, takes lots of time, etc. but to honestly be trapped in a dream is undescribable. ive been 'trapped' before, but never in a nightmare like this. i replayed SCREECHING sounds from vsnares in my head i sent like 100 different ideas/formulasthrough my head to break off from the dream and back to reality i thought about EVERYTHING i could think of, and just spazzed out, trying to break free. but no i kept waking up, still in the dream. this happened so many times finally it felt like i was swimming up from 30 or 50ft deep in a lake (took forever to swim up (the feeling)) and finally woke up when i hit the surface i mean, FUCK. |
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yeah, but in normal dreams your trapped to, only difference is your aware and should be able to wake up, 90 minutes is pretty long yes, but still.. or not? |
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And I always thought lucid dreaming would be cool... wow. I thought if you could control the dream's "plot" then you'd be safe-ish from anything like that. Dreams are weird, i don't get nightmares that often but usually very distorted, disquieting ones like badly reflected mirrors on my feelings / events n stuff. I love dreams but i never sleep properly, i always wake up to write them all down. Ah well... Seriously tho, bad luck man. Doesn't mean it'll happen again like, but maybe give the lucidness a rest for a while. Are ya stressed out in normal life? Cos maybe that's part of it. |
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i got suspicious reading about aphex having done everything but not wanting to kill himself, id not be able not to do that my dreams are always subtly fucked up, if i dream anything, i never fuck too! |
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i woke myself up today |
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i actually had a dream where i was trapped the other night. scared the shit out of me but it sounds like nothing compared to what you had. all i remember of it was that i couldn't run, like i was moving in slow motion, and this thing with black eyes was chasing me over a hill and the sky was on fire. the thing kept shifting, like a frame in a movie was missing or something. that dream didn't last that long, but for the short time it did last it felt like an eternity because i couldn't move. |
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supposedly your dreams affect everything in your day, sometimes subconciously and i guess in your case, conciously. |
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dont play with dreams - thay are beyond your control no matter what you think. every thing that you do in dream is noticed. when you think that you in a control of a dream - it's not true. it's like playing with child - until you say no the child thinks that he's playing with you , isn't it ? by this nightmare you were warned and it's up to you what wil you do now. my advice - stay out. |
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all peoples bodies go into a state of physical paralysis during REM sleep.. you just happened to be semi-conscious during that time |
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who better to quote? here is another good quote: "i have never been contained except i made the prison." can't remember if you commented on the film "waking life." your dream reminded me of it. |
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i have also practiced lucid dreaming as well... but nothing to the extent of such a horific experience. the need to fly or sink... the motion is what i enjoyed with LD. or wait, maybe that was LSD... j/k =b |
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i had a dream pretty fucked up like that, but it wasn't lucid. i was just sitting around my room chilling with friends when a GIANT flat blade came out of my floor and sliced my friend exactly in half, then flew up through the ceiling, all in a quick, straight line. then my friend SLOWLY peeled into his 2 halves with organs spewing yellow fluid everywhere. i partly felt depressed as shit that my friend was dead and partly felt horror that there were more blades. i woke up and jumped out of bed immediately. i started smiling because i was so glad to be awake. i also had a dream once where i was stabbed in the chest and the eye, but then realizing i wasn't dead it became lucid and i went around kicking ass in a grand theft auto point of view. @hyakusen - your post scares me. O.O |
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ive nevr taken lsd only shrooms but i am in so much stress, most people would spontaneously combust i do about 50-60hours a week of network engineering (too many projects) and have 14credits @ a hard engin. school i sleep like 4hours a night i get fucked up like every night just to stay awake to do my work im fucking fliping out imdrunk now i have work 8am and its late nd i dunno what time it itss i dunno how i even got hoem tonight ubt ok work 8am and no schol tom cause i dont have sclases on friday ejoy |
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WAKR UPU ELUCIVE YUO REA DERSMIBNG |
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Jesus Christ! I've never had anything that bad. I'm sure most people get a vivid image of something fucked up, but rarely does it go to the extent of continuing for days on end. Jesus fucking christ man. |
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what a liar. lucid nightmares! bah! |
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my dreams usually involve me writing code, which is shitty because i wake up and my written code is gone, but i wake up sometimes with solutions to problems in coding that i couldn't resolve for days, guess that sub-conscious level lateral thinking is helful |
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I've had dreams that have spanned days. The one I remember most was a dream where I killed one of my flat mates. It was a Spanish girl and she was always complaining about me playing my music too loud. I dreamt she was complaining one night and I grabbed her face and rammed her head into the wall and she died. Anyway then I woke up, remembered what had happened the night before and ran out of my room, she was dead on the staircase. So I ran out of the house and just remember running, but I never got anywhere. I eventually fell asleep in a doorway. Then I woke up in the same doorway, feeling as though I had slept for hours and it was another day. Went back to the house and she was still lying there not moving...I felt totally trapped. Then I woke up properly, ran out and she was alive and well in the kitchen...I had only been asleep about 2 hours, but it took me days to be able to shake the feeling. |
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Dreams last for only a few minutes at most, real time, that is. A person perceives the dream to last longer because you're not in a conscious state, but actually everything happens in the space of a few seconds. A dream cannot last for hours. I saw this in a documentary about dreams. They did scientific tests and shit. |
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I know it's cool init...I mean if you can fit days into minutes when people say you dream your life away you are actually having about 1000 years more life than them. |
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for some reason 24 hours in a day still doesn't seem to be enough to get everything done.....they also say that if an astronaut was to go in outer space the further he travels out the slower time affects him relative to here on earth. he would return like 20 years later and the civilization as he used to know it has been gone for maybe 1000's of years........which makes the concept of alien life forms interesting, what if in the 50's,60's or whenever it was the ufo's that crashed with aliens in em were an experiment of the states to see if they could continue civilization away from earth, keep our dna alive....if the earth was to be hit by a meteor or something... maybe its all americas big secret test, continuing our civilization, or advancing technologically at a faster pace by watching the other race grow |
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that's from eXistenze, this post makes me think of that anyway, with elusive thinking he wakes up. the last scene of that flick was cool |
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I haven't seen that film yet. Is it worth watching? |
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yes, not aMazing, but cool |
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all my dreams have a weird paranoid feeling to them, and I always feel like something big is about to happen, but it never does |
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ill have to check that movie out |
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GUTTED i was considering training to lucid dream once, but realsied id probably go mad if i did the things the guides tell u to... i read one and it was like: "go to the mirror. look at urself, now imagine u are inside ur dream, touch ur face, and imagine u can barely feel it, imagine u are in ur dream and can do what u want etc...do this everyday for 2 weeks, then do blah blah blah...." ! anyone who does all this shit regulary and lucid dreams is gonna get fucked up experiences, as our friend describes |
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So if you WERE lucid then why didn't you understand that there was nothing to be afraid of? Maybe the backwards head was your mind making a physical error in proportioning this mans appearence. Maybe if that was your initial understanding the crowd would have never freaked out. I think the crowd freaking out was your minds adaptation to the mistake that occured. But that's just me. I would have entered the TV (same as a mirror) and asked his name and how he did that. I think that you were lucky to have such a dream that lasted so long. :) |
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actually all i did to achieve lucidity is make note of the dreams i remember when i wake up. then i think to myself "okay, that had to have been a dream because (A) didn't make sense, and (B) wasn't actually my house and (C) i don't drive a truck etc. etc. etc." then more often i'll be in dreams and just say out loud "wait...this isn't real. this is totally absurd." |
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when i do LD, it usually starts the same way every time, (i've found a way to easily enter this state), and when i'm starting to see my hands in the dream and i make sure i have total control of them, the background fades in, its a red corridor, feels alot like a really nice hotel hallway, and i'm really feeling that i'm inside my head. the sound also fades in from being really muffled to really crisp. i remember walking in a small dark concrete tunnel, and i could actually feel every detail of the wall as i touched it. lucid dreaming is really fun but (almost) like some of you said, the human head is'nt filled with joy, and everyone has corners in their head that noone would ever want to visit. |
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Scary! I can only remember one occasion in which I was dreaming and was aware of this fact, and had some degree of control. Fortunetely it wasnt a nightmare. It was rather boring. "Hey, I'm dreaming..hmm there's nothing to do here" I'm glad I havent had an experience like that. |
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I have lucid dreams now & again, I had the same experience as you elusive, wednesday morning i think it was, I got to bed at around 7am (yes I do have adverse sleeping patterns) I was extremely tired at this stage & had been noding of while putting together a track at the pc just prior, I was then awoken at around 9am by a wasp in the window (on the other side of the curtain) which made me fairly edgy as I have a phobia of the foul tempered little bastards so I had the compelling urge to stay awake untill he had gone back out the window but because I was so knackard I fell back to sleep with the wasp still on my mind, I then became "aware" in my sleep (maybe I cold hear it buzzing or something) & began to panic & try to pull myself out of my sleep by using my mind & also trying to move my limbs etc & this continued on for alot longer than I would have liked........eventualy I managed to pull myself out of it by using all my will power, only to find the wasp was gone..........ahhhhh relief |
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yes you have... if you haven't, you'd be dead... |
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heh, no that's not right is it? Hmmm, I don't know anymore!! :) |
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Inatt drömde jag att jag fick mitt ollon avbitet = tonight I dreamed I got my ollon bitten off. = Tonight I dreamed someone chewed off the top of my cock. |
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Waking dreams are the worst, it's very rare to have them but this one time at band camp I had..........well, lets just say I was beyond traumatised by the whole thing.....fucking evil, evil things. I feel sorry for you elusive, you sound like you were stuck in a lucid waking loop, just count yourself lucky that you didn't go along for the ride the first time you woke in your dream & that you were conscious enough to be able to put it into perspective a little, as you obviously knew you were in a dream because you were trying to wake yourself up. I swear I almost had a heart attack that night!! |
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LOL!! |
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i dont dream in my sleep very much and when i do its not like dreaking its like watching myself think... but i do dream/space out alot when im awake , like a whole load of time can pass by and to me in was seconds of time and ive just been standing there totally unaware of anything.Makes my friends laugh...i do it alot in shops when my friends are shopping nd im fucking bored out fo my head,i just kinda of 'go' as such and when they come back an hour later im still there and they kind of , prod me, and away we go to the next shop |
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wow.. that's messed up.. |
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all of these stories that is.. |
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virginpusher oh oh oh im SOOO SORRY i jus couldnt fucking end it,. pfft wtf its not that easy to just do it. you never have like complete 100% lucids all the time, elast I dont there is always a factor or 2 that I cant control and I dont really care. i WAS lucid because i KNEW i was dreaming but then i kept waking up over and over and i kept getting confused so i didnt know ifi was dreaming or not anymore because i had woke up so many times so then i started frekaing out because as a test (in case i was dreaming, which i was) i tried waking myself up no avail so then i felt like it was real and i started getting scared real scared because i couldnt wake myself up, i wastrapped so then slowly it felt like this really WAS reality and not a dream |
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yeah true it sucks to be trapped in situations like that. hey but at least you head wasn't backwards! :) |
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