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offline anon from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-15 16:11 [#00864206]
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promis not to be too harsh and mean this time ,as i want
advice and constructive criticism and various other a
cceptable things only on a new poem a just wrote today

it's not exactly finsihed cause nothign ever is but will you
look at it and at least try and be sensitive when you slag
it off??


 

offline corticalstim from Canada on 2003-09-15 16:13 [#00864209]
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i wont slag it off - im nice :)


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2003-09-15 16:14 [#00864213]
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give it to me


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2003-09-15 16:14 [#00864214]
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Yeah : )


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-09-15 16:14 [#00864216]
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what you post my eyes will read,
with great pleasure.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-15 16:14 [#00864217]
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anon this is NOT a good place to be posting your poetry for
criticism. we enjoy having you on this board but you're only
setting yourself up for disappointment and cruel insults by
continuing to post your poems. i highly suggest you find
another, more age, gender, and intellect appropriate forum
for that. this is a bunch of guys that, although smart and
interesting, mostly lack manners and really don't know a
damn thing about poetry.


 

offline Phresch from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-09-15 16:16 [#00864220]
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hahaha!


 

offline anon from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-15 16:17 [#00864228]
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uhh..thanks ... i don't mind risking it.as i don't know them
i don't get too offended so i don't reall ymind too much.
the feeling lasts like , oh i'd say half an hour max then
goes away.

besides - i need opinions on it and all teh sane people are
in bed

thanks for caring tho :P at least,thats what i think you
were doing...


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-15 16:19 [#00864232]
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now i remember why i usually don't bother giving people
helpful advice, they're ingrateful and don't believe me.
well, suit yourself.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-15 16:19 [#00864234]
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I do know something about poetry and I will say what I
think.

that is not meant to be rude, but I also won't pussyfoot
round my opinion.

if you really want criticism, you should have some distance
between yourself and your work - this goes for music, poetry
etc.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-15 16:20 [#00864239]
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how was that ungrateful..?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-15 16:21 [#00864240]
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i said "mostly"; in my opinion seeking feedback from the few
people who know what they're talking about isn't worth the
immature and mean comments, but maybe anon is as prepared
for it as she says


 

offline anon from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-15 16:22 [#00864242]
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poem:

When you said goodbye,
you never really left.
you're allways there
a pressure on my chest
and i'm still often laying and turn
to find you there.
stuck fast in my imagination
softly playing with my hair,
you kiss me when i close my eyes
and gently stroke my face
tears roll down quickly as i realise
ive lost my favourite place.
no longer do you welcome me,
with smiling,loving eyes
but with the gentle hug of disapointment
and fake,polite surprise.

bitch away :P


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2003-09-15 16:23 [#00864244]
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wise words....it's easier said than done though I think


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-15 16:23 [#00864246]
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so which post is the poem, my guess is it's the second one.


 

offline anon from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-15 16:28 [#00864258]
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it's the one that sucks... with the most words too.i think.


 

online big from lsg on 2003-09-15 16:29 [#00864259]
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see: i thought it wasnt just about the sex
sorry, hate me, anyways
i started blinking when you started crying
and have now have just cried
i'm a bit soft


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-15 16:29 [#00864261]
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oh i see.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-09-15 16:30 [#00864263]
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Sounds like a poem written by a 16 or 17 year old girl.
Make your own inferences from that.


 

offline anon from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-15 16:32 [#00864266]
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i'll take that as a compliment as i'm not sixteen yet - so
ner ! i'm ahead of my age , by a few months...


 

online big from lsg on 2003-09-15 16:34 [#00864270]
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yes, i knew she was 15, that's great
this is just me


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-15 16:35 [#00864271]
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well you got the rhyme in there. i suppose this poem would
work better as lyrics to a song or something. There isn't
much figurative language or any metaphor which is what i
like to see in poetry so your poem doesn't really do it for
me.
but thanks for sharing. it sounds like it's based on some
personal event so it takes guts to share something like that
which gets my respect.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-15 16:37 [#00864273]
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a haiku about your poem:

your poem lacks depth
you should try to use language
metaphorically


 

offline MistahKurtz from Paris (France) on 2003-09-15 16:37 [#00864274]
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keep up the good work :-)


 

offline MistahKurtz from Paris (France) on 2003-09-15 16:38 [#00864276]
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lol


 

offline anon from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-15 16:41 [#00864279]
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i guess my poetry does suck..but there's no harm in trying
it,or writing it.

kinda like peple that can't sing ,but enjoy it
anyways.......


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2003-09-15 16:46 [#00864281]
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I don't think your poetry sucks exactly, it needs to
develop.

Evolume was right when he said about it coiming across more
like lyrics than poetry.

Don't give up though because you have time and you like
doing it so that will only lead to better things.


 

online big from lsg on 2003-09-15 16:48 [#00864285]
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no and no
it happen to think now its nice
and no: read my link in the other post on this where i tip:
dont be metaphoric but explain very well
im so touched by teenage girls, they believe in true love
and stuff
i was like that once


 

online big from lsg on 2003-09-15 16:49 [#00864288]
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it for frigging sure doesnt have to rhyme, lyrics do! it has
to explain, enlighten, make feel, relief
and the like


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-15 16:52 [#00864295]
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i agree it does have a certain innocence about it.

i wouldn't say it sucks. you just need to work on your
skills and read a lot more poetry. your little sing-songy
poem makes me think you should read some emily dickenson.
all her stuff was like that, it just had more "meat." more
reading between the lines, more beneath the surface. but i
was never a fan of her either.


 

online big from lsg on 2003-09-15 16:54 [#00864299]
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evolume: you might be right about that
i just cant read poetry, the energy that goes into that id
better use for making my own


 

online big from lsg on 2003-09-15 16:55 [#00864307]
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i was like really in tears over it
sweet.


 

offline anon from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-15 16:56 [#00864308]
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i know peoms dont have to rhyme but the ones i write that
don't rhyme tend to not get shared with anyone cause they're
like my thoughts all squished together... and they suck more
than the ones that do ryhme
This poem i just put upon the other hand, is kinda personal
'cause it how i feel right now , *but* its not put clearly
as you said and its not cutting close - so i don't mind
putting it up.
when i write things and they rhyme it's because i can't put
what im thinking onto paper properly and somehow,making it
rhyme makes me feel it makes more sence(sp) ......


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-16 04:38 [#00864897]
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Better than most lyrics I've heard this year


 

offline uzim on 2003-09-16 05:08 [#00864928]
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i read two of your poems - this one and 'Improvements', and
i do like them. yes, maybe it's right that language isn't
used metaphorically etc. so it can sound lacking "depth"...
but this doesn't matter to me, since the feelings expressed
in the text are there, and can be truly felt when i
read it. (in fact, language is not depth at all for
me - language is the packaging in which the feelings come,
would you say a CD lacks depth if only the packaging was
poor, or that a person lacks depth if this person wasn't
pretty enough?)

the language (as well as the artwork etc.) is
important, especially in poetry, but i won't criticize a
poem for its language as long as it is above average
language (as long as you don't write it in SMS-language and
other crap language like that*... ^^)

*i did saw people writing "poems" in SMS-language in
a dumb forum once. it was terrible.


 

offline uzim on 2003-09-16 05:12 [#00864930]
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...anyway i don't see anything wrong with the language
myself ' _ '

(though english isn't my natural language)


 

offline kalaim badkaama from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2003-09-16 05:31 [#00864940]
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immense rooms,
full of silence,
the sound of our laugh,
nothing but souvenir,
on my skin still glide
your hands on my shoulders
an my finger still grasp the curbs of yer body,
the big bed is so empty,
and the whiskey is so strong...

*bleeuaaarrgg!!! brooomf!!!****
heeeeeaaaaaghhh!!!! huuff!! huff! huff! God Damn booze!


 

offline Hiller_ from Tornio (Finland) on 2003-09-16 06:41 [#00864982]
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I don't like much of that kind of stuff, but it's better
than good.


 


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