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ok, im not attacking him at all... I love his music... its just that I was messing around with my friends MPC, and recorded this little ditty, that is very prefuseish so... is it prefusish... or is it just MPCish? His sound is so reliant on it... can you say someone is ripping him off when they making something similiar on the MPC? |
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i wouldn't say "ripping him off" maybe, quite so much as calling it "using a sound that's worn out" or something. some people just make a sound their own, and i guess that would be his? |
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thats very true... good point... |
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plus, certain machines and programs operate in certain ways that almost give off the same trademarks as a musician's style. it's easy to confuse the two. |
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also: just the way certain elements happen to fall together at times reminds one of another song or artist. but it's really not THEIRS. personal style i think is very general; really just a feeling, when you examine someone who dips into alot of styles. |
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basically, i'm saying this... i think it's perfectly fine to do something you really like that sounds like someone or something else, if it wasnt your intention. if it ever IS someone's intention to do what someone else is doing/has done, then i think they should re-examine their motivation behind doing music. |
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i have an mpc and i make music which is so different to prefuse...but with much time on mpc (editing and mixing short samples), with same ideas it can sound so prefusey in minutes |
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yes... I didnt mean that anyone who uses it, will sound like that... but the fact that you can make it sound so prefusey in mins... |
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but nobody is so good like him. so it doesn't matter at all |
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MPC's are wonderful tools. no one said prefuse 73's music was hard to make, but i would say it's pretty unique nonetheless. he has an identifiable style that probably can't quite be duplicated. just so you know, most hip-hop producers use either an MPC or an SP-1200. it makes sampling not only easy but very creative (ie: not just looping). jay dee makes some really wonderful music with the MPC. |
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Whoever created MPC (whatever that is, a software program I assume) is the real mind to follow probably. Since computers provide a great ability of creation with aphex-like music, the ultimate tools are computer programs. And designing the tools probably require more skill and thought than designing the music, at least in computer software... maybe not in creating a banjo or something, not that I'd really know how myself... |
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its hardware |
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yeah but mpc does only what your mind imagine, it so up to you, more than any software or hardware...it comes without any sound, and you have to make loops by your own...it's just the machine which follows yr thoughts....i don't like the idea that akai will put preset sound for the very first time on the new, small but not battery operated mpc 1000. |
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hah, but all this said... im considering getting an MPC :-P for a different approach to making music... and for the fucking awesome crunch it gives samples |
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titsworth, so what are you, like the owner of a label or what? |
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isnt it like the size of a sheet of paper? (not height :-P) |
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yes and you've been signed as my janitor. clean that shit up, "dog"! |
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*rimshot* |
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what do you do with hardware like a mpc... you plug it into your computer to feed it sound samples, or you record sound into it or something? whoa, I just got an idea... you could simulate the concept of having 10 fingers when you use hardware into software... by having a new type of mouse where all 10 of your fingers controls a different mini-mouse and cursor. |
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I am pleased to clean up the dog shit because I enjoy their companionship while working. What label? and you're the head honcho? |
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well, you can either load samples via the zip drive... or record them from the audio in |
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how much does one of those cost, anyways? |
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i'm jimmy iovine and i'm rich beyotch! |
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theres a huge range of them... different models etc... also, there are the older, no longer being made ones... which some say have a nice sound... it really depends... but id say... around 800-several thousand... depending on the model |
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well only the new one which is out in november is small and light. mine (mpc 2000) is 7 kg, and mpc 4000 is even bigger and much better but it cots few grands...i don't want to enter the pc/mpc battle, some nasty laptop with great external audio card and nasty controller can come close, and maybe win...but for me the best thing about it it's how it fit in my bed...and 8 output channel right to the mixer is so good....search on www.akaipro.com for the new one , it will be able to handle with 2gb memory cards...and that's....perfect |
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I wouldn't call it ripping off if you are influenced by, and while using the same hardware, and working in a similar style happen upon making something that sounds comparable. I have made a few things that sound prefuse-ish, and have not found myself ashamed for it at all. Anyways, he is going around telling people that he is going to change the face of hip-hop. The only way I can see this happening is through him being ripped off by every major producer in the industry. |
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whats an MPC :) |
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And the mpc is practically a modular sampler, so you can buy different things to upgrade it with (ie- filter, reverb, phasing, compressor). I have heard that the cheapest of these modules cost around $150us. |
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