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Job a boj
from Land of the Lost Timezone! (Canada) on 2003-09-14 21:59 [#00863113]
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el·e·va·tor ( P ) Pronunciation Key (l-vtr) n.
A platform or an enclosure raised and lowered in a vertical shaft to transport people or freight.
The enclosure or platform with its operating equipment, motor, cables, and accessories.
Why didnt they ever consider naming it a decreaseor? Perhaps we have nowhere to go but up?
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-09-14 22:33 [#00863164]
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it takes energy to haul things up, not down, so the work it is performing is more in the 'up' direction.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-14 22:41 [#00863177]
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i could tell from the title that this thread would kickass!
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-09-14 22:44 [#00863184]
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Praises for your new avatar Zeus. Excellente
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-09-14 22:47 [#00863194]
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I think the whole point of the elevator was to go up... it was a way of getting up to higher floors in a building... and then obviously it would also take us down, but the main objective was getting up I would say...
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-14 22:48 [#00863197]
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yeah... im tired of arguments with people
the avatar just sums up what I have to say, and Ill leave it at that :-D
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-09-14 22:50 [#00863203]
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yeah, well FUCK YOU!!!!!
:P *pulls Zeus into a manly embrace*
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-09-14 22:50 [#00863205]
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hmmm, maybe stuff like that is why I can't get a girlfriend!!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-14 22:51 [#00863207]
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yes
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-14 22:51 [#00863208]
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and things like my avatar, why I cant get one either! :-P
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big
from lsg on 2003-09-14 22:55 [#00863214]
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i like both your avatars funk masters's a bit scary though
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2003-09-14 23:05 [#00863234]
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i don't like elevators
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-09-14 23:07 [#00863238]
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why, it's called a decentor!
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-14 23:13 [#00863245]
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because in traditionally designed elevators they only use energy to raise them... then *bam* they let gravity do the lowering. fast, efficient and seldom deadly. or always deadly.. the specs are blurry at that part.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-09-14 23:20 [#00863259]
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i've always wondered, if you were in an elevator and the pulley/line broke, would you still die if you leaped at the last possible second before the car hit the ground?
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big
from lsg on 2003-09-14 23:22 [#00863262]
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of course not just dont try to catch the elevator afterwards
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-09-14 23:26 [#00863265]
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If you could jump with a force powerful enough to cancel out all but the last
(well how far can you fall without being seriously hurt?) 30 feet of the fall, then, yeah. So if you fall 100 feet in the elevator, you better be able to jump 70 feet to counteract the velocity.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-09-14 23:26 [#00863266]
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still might have some broken bones :D
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big
from lsg on 2003-09-14 23:31 [#00863273]
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actually i think, because of the speed, you're as fucked outside the elavator as inside
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big
from lsg on 2003-09-14 23:33 [#00863277]
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hey, i'm afraid someone might actually gonna try it
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-14 23:35 [#00863278]
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too bad you'll hit the ceiling of the elevator before you are able to jump 70 feet with your bionic legs. Falling 30 feet would still suck, just ask cabbog.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-09-14 23:39 [#00863285]
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yeah.. i guess if you think about it, no matter how much you'd jump, you'd still overall be falling..
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big
from lsg on 2003-09-14 23:46 [#00863289]
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unless you're hitting the ceiling that much with your head that it slows down to a normal elevator speed. and near you're stop make it do that, that's comfortable
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-09-14 23:51 [#00863294]
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Okay, point is: It's just a transfer of kinetic energy/potential energy. Lets just say you are on a platform with no roof that has fallen 100 feet, and at the last second, you jump with a force powerful enough to propel you 101 feet in the air. That force is exactly equal to cancel out your fall and make you hop 1 foot off the platform and plop safely on the ground.
However, the forces are still the same, so your legs would snap if you tried to jump 100 feet in the air anyways, it would be exactly the same as hitting the ground after falling 100 feet. So, unless you are a robot or a really small insect, the answer is: NO.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-09-14 23:56 [#00863297]
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well that works out perfectly then.. bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-15 00:06 [#00863301]
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hmm... since the elevator has a ceiling maybe a really small insect would have trouble too since the ceiling would pull it down and remove it's advantage of air resistance... well since gravity accelerates gradually, the insect would be slowly raised until it rested on the ceiling... then eventually it would lapse into a coma from too many g's perhaps.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-09-15 00:14 [#00863305]
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nuthin' but an insect g thang
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-09-15 00:16 [#00863307]
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Well, insects have an advantage because of the effect scale has on size/mass ratio. Say there's a person 2 meters tall, and another person 2 centimeters tall, or 1/100th of the big person. The smaller person however will have 1/1000th the volume and mass (they are also diminished in all other dimensions, not just height).
Now muscular strength is a function of the cross sectional area of the muscle, regardless of how long it is for the most part. So their strength would be diminished 100 fold as well BUT this gives a advantage as they are 1000th the size, basically, they are 10 times stronger for their size.
Something like that.
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kalaim badkaama
from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2003-09-15 00:21 [#00863308]
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it is called MAss/Energy Relation. M / E = V.
-------------------------- Mass / Energy = Speed
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kalaim badkaama
from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2003-09-15 00:25 [#00863309]
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it's about what amount of energy yu'll need to displace yer arm's muscular mass in the space, for example. and ... danm, i forgot Inertia.
It's more like M/E*I=V
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-09-15 00:37 [#00863314]
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Velocity is just Distance/Time
Acceleration is Force*Mass
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kalaim badkaama
from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2003-09-15 00:39 [#00863315]
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V is for vitesse the french word for speed. not velocity old reflexes. anyway something is missing. it seems to me tha t i forgot something.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-15 00:46 [#00863316]
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I'm getting confused:
say there's a 5x5x5 foot cube and a 3x3x3 foot cube... each individual cube weighs one pound
5x5x5: volume= 125 cubic feet mass= 125 pounds surface area: 150 square feet
3x3x3: volume= 27 cubic feet mass= 27 pounds surface area: 54 square feet
So they have the same ratio of volume and mass...
but the ratio of surface area increases exponentially with increased volume. I guess...
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-09-15 00:53 [#00863323]
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oops, yeah, i meant surface area/mass ratio. It's because muscular strength is determined by cross sectional surface area of the muscle.
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wakisan
from The L-Mont (United States) on 2003-09-15 01:02 [#00863338]
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It was so funny. The other day I went to the barber shop to get my haircut, and he did a bang up job. But I guess I forgot to tip him, and I hadn’t realized it at the time. Well, a while later I went home to my parents house for Ramadan, but when I got there, I couldn’t find them. I looked all over the house. I went down to the basement, and my parents were lying on the floor, in a pool of their own blood, with their faces mutilated and their organs ripped out. I looked up and the barber was standing there with a big bloody knife, and he said, “I guess you should have tipped me.” I dont know, I guess you had to be there.
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Job a boj
from Land of the Lost Timezone! (Canada) on 2003-09-15 18:55 [#00864442]
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Hmm this turned out to be an interesting thread. I must write down my distorted thoughts here more often. Sux tho, I do remember I had something else, very interesting but I ended up forgetting what it was after i typed that elevator bit, Damn. Mb it'll come back to me.
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