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Oral sex is an act of mutual pleasure through physical stimulation. Homosexuality, is a very similar thing, two concenting people gaining mutual pleasure in physical intimacy. So neither are the same as this case. This was the infliction of pain on a none concenting person for sexual pleasure. Not the same thing at all. This is an act of mental illness. |
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exactly |
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What has consent got to do with whether or not something is natural behaviour? |
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By the way you are phrasing this, there is no such thing as mental illness, just deviant behaviour that people don't understand. Whose to say a serial killer who is acting on the word of God isn't really doing so? |
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OK, if we are to go on another tact...if you look in nature when a youngster in a group of animals is threatened by an adult male or female the rest of the hurd will often seek to kill the potential threat. Therefore the killing of this person by other humans would be a perfectly acceptable and justifyable natural response to his actions. Would you agree that murder in this case would be perfectly OK? If it was perfectly natural behaviour why would animals resort to this sort of response, given that they havent undergone the same level of conditioning and respression that humans have? |
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ecnadniarb > yes, i completely agree with this... that's why i was pointing out : ) but maybe i just got your sentence wrong, confusing "not natural" and "illness" (but anyway... homosexuality oral sex etc. are natural too in my opinion, we don't make/configure our desires/attractions ourselves most of the time we just have them... but that's just my opinion) as for pedophilia being an illness or not i think it depends on the cases... can't tell a general case, i think some are disturbed/sick in their minds so they do stuff like that (also serial killing etc.), and others just have this attraction which they do not restrain, and commit what they commit, in a totally egoistic/evil/bestial way.. (and maybe there are other cases too) |
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(this was meant to be a follow-up to the message at the top of the page, [#00849553] ) |
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I have chatted to Paul in the past about peadophilia and I agree with him that it can be natural behaviour between sexually aware people if that is what they choose to do, although hormonal changes through puberty can lead to youngsters mistaking the need for closeness to others with sexual needs, which is why I think laws governing underage sex are needed. The desire to gain sexual gratification through the harming of others is not natural. |
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Uzim: Interesting point... there was a lot of furore about "anti-sodomy" laws in America in the 70s in certain states. Whilst most people of the time (at least publicly) agreed that it was a good idea to make buggery illegal, it also covered oral sex and in fact, any sexual act from which procreation was not possible. To paraphrase Hunter S. Thompson, "I just hope that anyone who does anything other than a quick, dutiful hump in the missionary position for the purposes of procreation doesn't get a visit from these law endforcment Nazis..." Titsworth: Most prisons in this country do keep; corrupt police, paedophiles and grasses in a seperate wing to stop other prisoners doing them in. |
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I would say the murder of the individual would be a natural act, but not everyone would consider it socially acceptable in a society where rule of law is supposedly paramount. |
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yes i know, but if you're going to give a baby rapist 5 years in prison at least put them in a violent prison. 5 years of bragging to your fellow pedophiles and rapists is NOT just punishment. |
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