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offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-09-02 06:21 [#00845871]
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let's all sing the American Anthem together


 

offline jamesa from United Kingdom on 2003-09-02 06:24 [#00845872]
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smoke a j


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-09-02 06:27 [#00845874]
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that'll help


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-09-02 06:27 [#00845875]
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What? The land of the free? Whoever told you that is your
enemy



 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-09-02 06:34 [#00845880]
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The world is becoming to extreme in it's views...people are
either dead set for something, or dead set against it.

America and Britain, while having some shitty laws, are
generally free. These anti terrorism measures will have
very little or no effect on the vast majority of people, and
as the governments have been scare mongering over the
terrorism issue, now other groups are doing the same thing
to the governments.
I am getting pretty bored with the whole thing.

Personally I have nothing to hide so none of this shit
bothers me. Steps like these are necesarry to a certain
extent and it would be simplistic to think otherwise.

Sure it would be nice if the world could get by with
everyone being smiley and happy, but life just doesn't pan
out that way and never will :(


 

offline aquagak from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-09-02 06:39 [#00845885]
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*ppfff
land of the free. The USA is'nt the only country thast's
free you know, stop hoging it


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-09-02 06:41 [#00845887]
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arnt you a happy little boy this morning :0)

CONGRATS !!


 

offline gnocelot from Greifswald (Germany) on 2003-09-02 07:28 [#00845936]
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That's the problem, you know... people saying "meh, this
won't affect me" (though as most people in this thread are
on the wrong continent, they'd be right this time as long as
they stay out of the US) or "I'm innocent, I have nothing to
fear." That's how Bad Things tend to happen. Blah blah blah
slippery slope, I'm sure you've heard it all a hundred times
before, but that doesn't mean there's no reason to be
concerned about it.


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-09-02 07:42 [#00845943]
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ARRRGHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-09-02 07:52 [#00845946]
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land of the free


 

offline Peloton from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-02 08:08 [#00845963]
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"Personally I have nothing to hide so none of this shit
bothers me."

That may be true now but what about in the future? What if
they, as it tends to transpire, widen the scope of the
legislation to include things like minor misdameaners,
traffic offences, breaking a curfew? Once the system is in
place, that's it. No going back.

How all pervasive does it have to be before you start
worrying? Personally, I don't want the State to know all
about my financial transactions, what books I borrow, my
political sympathies, my medical history or the ability to
know where I am at any given time. The Stasi would be
creaming in their pants at the thought of the laws our
governments are passing.

'First they came for the Jews, but I wasn't a Jew so I
didn't speak out. Then they for the communists and I wasn't
a communist so I didn't speak out. Then they came for me and
there wasn't anyone left to speak up for me'

Sounds about wright.


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-09-02 09:07 [#00846078]
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marlowe: "from a distance I thought it was real"

jeebus I like that, can I quote you, or did someone else say
that?


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-09-02 09:15 [#00846106]
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As far as I'm aware, I made it up - quote on, my son.


 

offline gelding_man on 2003-09-02 10:36 [#00846317]
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And home of the brave.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-09-02 10:39 [#00846326]
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So they have started publically stating that they are doing
stuff they have always done. There is no need to get all
worried about it now, nor is there any point in fighting
against it. At the end of the day it is always going to
happen, and people bitching about it on the internet isn't
going to stop it.


 

offline Peloton from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-02 10:57 [#00846366]
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They have always done this? Maybe in totalitarian regimes
and behind the iron Curtain they did but not so much here --
the technology to track finacial transactions, medical
databases and communications is relatively new.

Read this report from todays paper...

Political police are now more intrusive than at any time ...

"... nor is there any point in fighting against it. At the
end of the day it is always going to happen"

Wow! Accept your servitude, eh?

Go back to sleep, you're government is in control. Shut up.
Be happy.

pfft!



 

offline gelding_man on 2003-09-02 11:01 [#00846372]
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"They have always done this? Maybe in totalitarian regimes
and behind the iron Curtain they did but not so much here --

the technology to track finacial transactions, medical
databases and communications is relatively new. "

Beg to differ. The Social Security Card/Number has been
around for decades in the U.S. And has been a very
efficient way of rounding up a person transactions, from the
Library Memberships to Credit Cards.



 


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