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smoke a j |
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that'll help |
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What? The land of the free? Whoever told you that is your enemy |
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The world is becoming to extreme in it's views...people are either dead set for something, or dead set against it. America and Britain, while having some shitty laws, are generally free. These anti terrorism measures will have very little or no effect on the vast majority of people, and as the governments have been scare mongering over the terrorism issue, now other groups are doing the same thing to the governments. I am getting pretty bored with the whole thing. Personally I have nothing to hide so none of this shit bothers me. Steps like these are necesarry to a certain extent and it would be simplistic to think otherwise. Sure it would be nice if the world could get by with everyone being smiley and happy, but life just doesn't pan out that way and never will :( |
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*ppfff land of the free. The USA is'nt the only country thast's free you know, stop hoging it |
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arnt you a happy little boy this morning :0) CONGRATS !! |
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That's the problem, you know... people saying "meh, this won't affect me" (though as most people in this thread are on the wrong continent, they'd be right this time as long as they stay out of the US) or "I'm innocent, I have nothing to fear." That's how Bad Things tend to happen. Blah blah blah slippery slope, I'm sure you've heard it all a hundred times before, but that doesn't mean there's no reason to be concerned about it. |
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ARRRGHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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"Personally I have nothing to hide so none of this shit bothers me." That may be true now but what about in the future? What if they, as it tends to transpire, widen the scope of the legislation to include things like minor misdameaners, traffic offences, breaking a curfew? Once the system is in place, that's it. No going back. How all pervasive does it have to be before you start worrying? Personally, I don't want the State to know all about my financial transactions, what books I borrow, my political sympathies, my medical history or the ability to know where I am at any given time. The Stasi would be creaming in their pants at the thought of the laws our governments are passing. 'First they came for the Jews, but I wasn't a Jew so I didn't speak out. Then they for the communists and I wasn't a communist so I didn't speak out. Then they came for me and there wasn't anyone left to speak up for me' Sounds about wright. |
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marlowe: "from a distance I thought it was real" jeebus I like that, can I quote you, or did someone else say that? |
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As far as I'm aware, I made it up - quote on, my son. |
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So they have started publically stating that they are doing stuff they have always done. There is no need to get all worried about it now, nor is there any point in fighting against it. At the end of the day it is always going to happen, and people bitching about it on the internet isn't going to stop it. |
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They have always done this? Maybe in totalitarian regimes and behind the iron Curtain they did but not so much here -- the technology to track finacial transactions, medical databases and communications is relatively new. Read this report from todays paper... "... nor is there any point in fighting against it. At the end of the day it is always going to happen" Wow! Accept your servitude, eh? Go back to sleep, you're government is in control. Shut up. Be happy. pfft! |
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"They have always done this? Maybe in totalitarian regimes and behind the iron Curtain they did but not so much here -- the technology to track finacial transactions, medical databases and communications is relatively new. " Beg to differ. The Social Security Card/Number has been around for decades in the U.S. And has been a very efficient way of rounding up a person transactions, from the Library Memberships to Credit Cards. |
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