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who *actually* listens to druqks?
 

andreas.de from paris, france on 2001-11-08 10:28 [#00049672]



hello,

i wonder how many people do actually listen to druqks. i
think the album sells quite well, but the music isn't really
mainstream : few airplays, etc.

do people buy it just because it's cool to have it? will
druqks become more accecible within time?

nevertheless, i think it's a great album. ;)

greetings from paris,
(: andreas


 

Ironlung from Dark Side of the moon on 2001-11-08 10:29 [#00049673]



Only us who know....know.....
Know what I mean....


 

Richard D. James on 2001-11-08 10:36 [#00049674]



Not even me.


 

Richard D. James on 2001-11-08 10:36 [#00049676]



It's the worst album I've ever heard.


 

Mutant Death Pengwin from Medicine Hat on 2001-11-08 10:41 [#00049677]



i downloaded drukqs so i could say that i had the album 45
days early. i only listen to it while really high. i really
don't think its that great.


 

Fernz from The Messageboard on 2001-11-08 10:42 [#00049678]



It has its moments.


 

beetlebum on 2001-11-08 11:28 [#00049692]



i think when its good, its fucking wicked.
but when it sucks, well, it basically just sucks.
its a little extreme


 

Wizard MaC from Amersfoort on 2001-11-08 12:02 [#00049694]



DRUKQS is good, but not the best


 

wizards teeth on 2001-11-08 12:06 [#00049696]



I just love the fast tacks

Does nut mean the rest of the song are shite, even the
birthday song would be good to play to yourslelf on your
birthday, it only cost £15 to change your name by deed
pole. special editions of the cd could be made with
different names instead of richard, a bit like those things
that turn around in card shops in england with key rings on
with everyones name and the meaning of those names.

examples -

margaret - all margarets ride horses to the shops to buy
eggs, bread and gravy. these are the only items they are
allowed, if not they explode or implode depending on the
time of day. all pm hours and they will implode all am hours
and they will explode, it apparantly has someting to do wit
the position of the moon in relation to the earth.

which other artists should i check out if i love fast
electonic music that my mother hates listening to. on
chritsmas day i am forced to listen to cliff richard, i hate
this customary practise.


 

PostModernVancouver from Downtown Vancouver on 2001-11-08 12:52 [#00049697]



All this other stuff released this year IMO doesnt even come
close to the
genius that is consisted on RDJ"s DruKQS.
Time will prove the naysayers wrong, trust me..
The album reeks of emotion and sheer beauty unlike anything
else released
this year.
So what if itsn't all that innovative, its still leaps
better then the rest
IMO..
Reasons of dissapointment might be that the expectations and
the waiting
length for the release might have been too much and too
long..
Whoopdie doo...
A lot of the so-called innovative stuff released this year
lack total soul
IMO, and in terms of drawing blood from a machine RDJ is the
bloody king...
Drukqs is innovative enough to even be there with the rest
of them...added
to that this album has far more variations then anything
else released as of
late...
If ya think ya got him figured out, he might be fooling you
now, since he
could quite easily come up with anything so advanced out of
nowhere, who
knows...
This seems like a purging all the personalities of RDJ kind
of an album,
just to get ready to go on to the next phase, who knows.
But nonetheless, I DO think this is an album that is
unparalelled in terms
of sheer enjoyability and emotion compared to anything
else.
Sorry, But I found Confield to be a pile of Crap and I like
Autechre...
A year from now...I guarantee you that DRukqs will already
be considered a
Classic albeit a little controversial because of its
seemingly incohesive
nature ( who cares?)...
Nah, Album of the year by far.....IMO....

Peace



 

Archrival from NYC on 2001-11-08 13:01 [#00049698]



I definitly listen to DrukQs. Its a classic already.


 

oki from grmny on 2001-11-08 13:42 [#00049708]



must second that definitely :-)


 

balthus from europe on 2001-11-08 14:44 [#00049713]



yes, it is.


 

phool on 2001-11-08 17:29 [#00049763]



bizarre! aand you run a fan site, don't you?!
i don't understand the original argument..... it doesn't get
much airplay, so who actually listens to it? well, i almost
never ever listen to something that gets radio airplay that
i know of ( i did like Ms jackson by Outkast thou). i have
listened for years to Aphex BECAUSE i don't listen to the
damn radio! i have never even heard any Aphex track being
played on commercial radio here in the US. i've heard two
tracks played on a public radio station years ago.


 

Dirtypriest from Denmark on 2001-11-08 18:00 [#00049789]



FOR FUCKS SAKE CHECK OUT BOGDAN RACZYNSKI!!!! MR TEETH!

you will love it!


 

andreas.de from paris, france on 2001-11-08 20:28 [#00049818]



i just think theres a gap between the copies sold and the
copies actually listened to.

i am wrong probably. :)

andreas


 

1010-1111-10 from St.John\\\\\\\'s Newfoundland, Canada on 2001-11-08 20:31 [#00049820]



Its a good album. Wish bit4 was like 2 min tho, that would
be interesting to hear.


 

Trevor on 2001-11-09 06:56 [#00049946]



i like the prepared piano!!!!

that's right--a piano full of screws, rubber stops, felt,
and other shit....about time someone used this medium in
popular music


 

wizards teeth on 2001-11-09 09:07 [#00049957]



do pianos not look like that anyway close up

incorporate meat / dead flesh with instruments


 

Barrett, Syd from T dot. on 2001-11-09 09:46 [#00049967]



Set Fire To Flames is better. as is the new A Silver Mt.
Zion. and the new Spiritualized.

I'd say it's in the top 8 releases this year.


 

diastole from http://diastole1.homestead.com on 2001-11-09 09:52 [#00049973]



i
like
mr
jame's
new
album
called
drukqs
because
it
has
such
a
movie
kina
element
to
it
(hope that is enough writing to reveal the symbol of aphex
behind this)
thanks...
do you think the women are in real pain on the track, or did
he just go to a maternity ward?


 

balthus from europe on 2001-11-09 10:13 [#00049983]



i'm sure that was a lot of fun for them to do this. i can
imagine how aphex said to them 'come on girls, do some
screaming, i need that for a track'. it's also fun to listen
to that. i love gwarek2 - it's like a short film without
visuals, it has a lot of atmosphere. someone said here
that's like a prison etc. well, it gets darker while it
progresses, but in my opinion it's not a scary piece. it's
beautiful actually, very relaxed. i like the sounds.

drukqs is the best album of this year, apart from the new
steve reich 'triple quartet'... and it's the best cd since
boc's in a beautiful place.


 

oki from grmny on 2001-11-09 11:24 [#00049993]



i got a strong effect with gwely mernans - something like
being in a womb and outside a far and dark landscape from
where strange sounds here and there pop up the horizon (well
i should write books ;-))


 

trevor on 2001-11-09 16:52 [#00050046]



prepared pianos are set with objects in the strings....

so the sound gets really wieird with screws, rubber, felt,
and other things interveneing.

it was devised by the American composer John Cage mainly to
get more variety out of the piano tone.

one does it by measure and placing objects in the strings at
different positions--in a very ordered manner. in comparison
to the John Cage music ive heard however, the DrukQs
preparation sounds much more ordered.

and 9 tracks from DrukQs are done in this manner.

oh and i think two, or three tracks are completely
improviational-- (that organ thing, and one or two piano
pieces)

and god, did you hear the 'father'
track----atonal!!!...great, great, great

that's very good- art music and thought (some call it
classical) is begining to interact with more popular forms



 

balthus from europe on 2001-11-09 18:30 [#00050065]



yes, art music is a better term for classical music. the
greatest last interaction was in the early 70s (before that
it surely was the influence of debussy, stravinsky, bartók
on jazz musicians like monk, coltrane, mingus etc, but in
the end jazz is not really 'popular music'). the influence
on popular music was minimalism, terry riley's, steve
reich's, phil glass' ensemble works. brian eno and david
bowie attended concerts (in bowie's case a glass concert,
eno's case a reich concert), and as they admitted, were
impressed and influenced. later tangerine dream, who were
very influenced, too - (steve reich said he should have sued
them) helped phil glass to get released some of his works
on virgin records. (glass actually knew all the people like
bowie, eno, oldfield, tangerine dream personally, whereas
reich distanced himself from them). this goes on to the 90s,
with the influence on electronic music. and the influence is
not only in electronic music, it's everywhere. you have a
great deal of rip-off's in film scores such as in matrix and
AI. today you can listen to to more or less bad songs on
radio and you can hear that even there are influences
(extremely watered down influences of course, but still) of
minimalism -madonna's american pie for example had a very
glassian intro. so aphex only went deeper to people like
satie and cage, who where actually very important for the
work of riley, reich and glass. it's a long chain of
influences, which is very interesting. listen to boc's
zoetrope and aphex twin's nannou and you have really nice
pieces with an essential feel of riley's, reich's and glass'
music. but what makes boc and aphex so great, is that they
are not really popularize minimalism, they do not water it
down, they make something new and fresh with these
influences. so aphex' turn to cage's (though he denies the
influence, but so did a lot of artists!) or satie's was not
so surprising at all. (ps. ok, i wouldn't be surprised if
radiohead's next album would feature thom yorke playing on a
prepared piano, doing a masterpiece album)


 

balthus from europe on 2001-11-09 18:33 [#00050066]



yes, art music is a better term for classical music. the
greatest last interaction was in the early 70s (before that
it surely was the influence of debussy, stravinsky, bartók
on jazz musicians like monk, coltrane, mingus etc, but in
the end jazz is not really 'popular music'). the influence
on popular music was minimalism, terry riley's, steve
reich's, phil glass' ensemble works. brian eno and david
bowie attended concerts (in bowie's case a glass concert,
eno's case a reich concert), and as they admitted, were
impressed and influenced. later tangerine dream, who were
very influenced, too - (steve reich said he should have sued
them) helped phil glass to get released some of his works
on virgin records. (glass actually knew all the people like
bowie, eno, oldfield, tangerine dream personally, whereas
reich distanced himself from them). this goes on to the 90s,
with the influence on electronic music. and the influence is
not only in electronic music, it's everywhere. you have a
great deal of rip-off's in film scores such as in matrix and
AI. today you can listen to to more or less bad songs on
radio and you can hear that even there are influences
(extremely watered down influences of course, but still) of
minimalism -madonna's american pie for example had a very
glassian intro. so aphex only went deeper to people like
satie and cage, who where actually very important for the
work of riley, reich and glass. it's a long chain of
influences, which is very interesting. listen to boc's
zoetrope and aphex twin's nannou and you have really nice
pieces with an essential feel of riley's, reich's and glass'
music. but what makes boc and aphex so great, is that they
are not really popularize minimalism, they do not water it
down, they make something new and fresh with these
influences. so aphex' turn to cage's (though he denies the
influence, but so did a lot of artists!) or satie's was not
so surprising at all. (ps. ok, i wouldn't be surprised if
radiohead's next album would feature thom yorke playing on a
prepared piano, doing a masterpiece album)


 

balthus from europe on 2001-11-09 18:34 [#00050067]



sorry for the twin post...i guess these were some tchnical
errors...


 

zetre on 2001-11-09 21:57 [#00050083]



I think very few people are buying drukqs to be cool,
because
-most people buy records ´cause they like the music, be
they aphex, britney or t.o.k fans
-drill´n´bass isn´t the height of cool in 2001



 

Gav from cleethorpes on 2001-11-11 14:59 [#00050457]



I love Drukqs. I think it's definitely the best put together
so far and really interesting. The only problem is you have
to have just the right conditions for it to appeal, you need
to be alone, concentrating, with lots of time to kill,
preferably in a dark room, stick that baby on and play all
100 minutes of it. When you ge tto the end you feel like a
changed person. Whatever you do, don't switch it off mid
record or you're fucked.


 

Quadrapelegicrobotikev from mp3.com/quadrapelegicrobotik on 2001-11-11 15:39 [#00050468]



its a good album but if i was a newer fan, this album would
draw me away from AFX...

if only AFX would go apeshite and produce an album every two
months to give my thirst its splendor


 

Xanatos from NYC on 2001-11-11 15:58 [#00050493]



I had to force myself to listen to it and nothing else. And
since then it did grow on me alot. At first I liked 2
tracks, then 3, now I really like about 7 of them. I will
probably burn those 7 onto some kind of seperate mix because
I find the album as a whole extremely annoying. Some of the
tracks make me physically ill. Its actually really crazy, I
think I'll make a post about that.


 

.mk. from barcelona on 2001-11-11 17:09 [#00050537]



drukqs has the best afx songs,
but its fucking irregular...

vordhosbn is my favourite one
maybe best afx song ever...

well, with girl-boy
and alberto balsalm


 

SpaZpheX from PAlAcIlsuRRounDSouND on 2001-11-11 18:45 [#00050574]



Balthus, you are a scoundrel sir who would surely implode
under the crushing weight of his own smug self-importance
were it not for the fact that you speak the truth, and have
a neat turn of phrase, so i guess you may continue...



 

balthus from europe on 2001-11-11 20:03 [#00050616]



ah, yes...


 

balthus from europe on 2001-11-11 20:08 [#00050621]



... of course. well done, my apprentice.


 

SpaZpheX from PAlAcIlsuRRounDSouND on 2001-11-11 20:10 [#00050625]



... Needless to say, i await your next utterance with baited
breath...


 

balthus from europe on 2001-11-11 20:14 [#00050628]



... so, i suppose i need to continue in beginning the next
chapter of my treaty 'the roots and ambigious but thoroughly
satisfying ways of aphex twin and other artists of the
electronic scene'.


 

balthus from europe on 2001-11-11 20:14 [#00050630]



uhumm... :°)


 

SpaZpheX from PAlAcIlsuRRounDSouND on 2001-11-11 20:23 [#00050635]



Indeed sir, you do...


 

f.l.e.a from dogsear on 2001-11-11 20:40 [#00050648]



I finally got me dirty mits on the album..while I was rather
dubious when I heard the samples placed here by kind
Phobiazero, when I heard the whole thing, I fell in love
with it..I agree it's not his best ever, but's pretty damn
good, I think it leaves room for doubt because of the sheer
length of it, but to me that's just room to grow on to
you..while I was initially a bit unsure of cagian piano
extrapolations..simply because they were far too melodic and
far less percussive than cage..but now I see that that just
makes them something entirely new..cant imagine the album
without them..but I do confess that they do work best when
you think of them as intros, outros and interludes between
the harder, faster, more abrassive stuff..which brings me to
the faster stuff..MAN!..I personally think that "Taking
Control" has the potential to be the next "Come to Daddy" or
"Ventolin" or "Windowlicker" you know..one of the big
signature Aphex choons..and the rest are quite brilliant as
well, each of them unfolding and revealing more with each
listen..and the damn discs havent left me player in the week
I have had it..so I guess the answer is YES..I do listen to
it!
PS. I feel that his INTERVIEW with THE FACE is the most
insightful of what I 've read so far...less malarky, more
straight responses, even sheds some light on his creative
process, it's worth a read if you haven't read it already..


 

SpaZpheX from PAlAcIlsuRRounDSouND on 2001-11-11 20:56 [#00050661]



It's a long hard slog to start with but the more you listen
to it the shorter and sweeter it gets, in a time stretching
kind of way...


 

Avila on 2001-12-25 17:11 [#00064019]



The problem with you people that don't like the album is
that you're not listening to it . All you do is hear it, but
you don't make the effort to pay attention. I bet no even
one of you owns a pair of headphones. I bet bet none of you
even knows what stereo means. Also, the jerk that using
Barretts' name you should be ashamed of yourself.


 

Little Lord Faulteroy on 2001-12-25 17:53 [#00064021]



I heard the main reason the album came out was because he
lost his MP3 player with like 200 never B4 released songs on
it! Doesn't that make u feel that this album was kinda
rushed? Believe me i like Drukq's but i've deffintly heard
Better Aphex twin songs


 

Nazi Pokemon from UK on 2001-12-25 20:34 [#00064035]



'drukqs' is an anagram of 'aphex'


 

awt from sweden on 2001-12-25 20:58 [#00064042]



i think the record is a MD record.

Its so fucking soft listening to druqks while walkin in the
town smoking a cirgarett and just ignore all the problems.
I already love it thou i just got it.
Its realy an album worth listening to just like many
ohjters.

you know what i mean.


 

Ross on 2001-12-25 21:14 [#00064047]



i just got it for xmas, though i had heard some on the
internet prior..i'll need to get into it more, but i love
the way the 2nd disc ends, it seems really gentle (starting
from ziggomatics ending part, which is gorgeous) it seems a
little frustrating right now, and i think taking control is
pretty terrible, but im sure in time i'll like it more


 

E man from Noitac ol\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ on 2001-12-26 02:38 [#00064095]



nazipokemon : explain yourself, 'drukqs is an anagram of
aphex'???


 

Xanatos from NYC on 2001-12-26 06:23 [#00064109]



I actually listen to it...

Vordhosbn
Bbyon Chord
Cock/Ver 10
54 Cymru Beats
Meltphace
AFX Ver 237

nuff said..


 

sgorhud from your rectum hole on 2001-12-26 08:53 [#00064128]



i've listened to it the least out of all my aphex records..
i don't know, i like it and it's a decent album but its not
as much fun to listen to as a whole like rdj album or ICBYD


 

thanksomuch from planet claire on 2001-12-26 09:27 [#00064129]



i listen to it quite often. i alternate every week, the
first disc for a week, (in my car) and then the second. i
LOVE mount st michelle!!!


 


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