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drugiebowzer
from uoyoutland on 2001-11-08 05:38 [#00049634]
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hahaa.. its me! :-) you little immature prat.. goodluck in the real world brother.. you wont survive with your attitude. have a nice life.. not!
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Archrival
from NYC on 2001-11-08 08:02 [#00049653]
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I never say that I listen to "intelligent dance music" (that sound so faggot) where im at..I could get killed for that.
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Underwear model
on 2001-11-08 15:17 [#00049722]
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Exactly ! Stuff like Jeff Mills, Surgeon, Dave Clarke, Laurent Garnier, Christian Vogel and so on isn't just dumb dance music ! You really have to dig deep for the good stuff. If you associate Danceble Techno with stuff like SONIQUE, SYLVER, or whatever commerical TRANCE dreck, you'll miss out a lot of good music ! I was just wondering why only those WARP Artists get mentioned here !?!
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oki
from grmny on 2001-11-08 15:40 [#00049734]
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*yawn*
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Chrispy
from UK on 2001-11-08 15:55 [#00049735]
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I think people go to far to decide what genre of music a certain artist is in. It's almost gone as far as saying that each artist is it's own genre. I just like to say that I listen to Aphex twin, a type of electronic music or System of a down, a type of heavy metal.
Saying that though I'd class idm as something like an AI type of music... It's like its got it's own life unlike formulated dance music that has a basic beat with variations... I hope you guys see where I'm coming from here. I'm not good at making myself very clear I'm afraid. :)
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oki
from grmny on 2001-11-08 15:56 [#00049736]
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AIM - yeah, that´s it!! :-)
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2-Me0-PhNMePr2N
from (((trapped in hyperspace))) on 2001-11-08 16:24 [#00049741]
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In Sides is the worst damn one! (Excluding Adnan's, TGWTSIHH, and DirtyWater) NOwhere was awesome...if you can't appreciate that shit (Way Out, IDKYP...STYLE, fucking STYLE, geez) you don't deserve your ears. Altoghether took some getting used to, but it's just ravi-er, I hated it at first but got to like it. Still, though O2 is by far the best LP. And, shit, whoever says dancing is stupid needs to quit it with the intelligent-nerd-pose. Just because you like AFX doesn't mean you have a higher IQ than people who rave. Thinking that just makes you seem even more stupid.
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Underwear Model
on 2001-11-08 16:26 [#00049743]
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Eevery type of music follows some BASIC FORMULAIC HARMONIC RULES And it is still possible to make an Innovative track with a 4/4 BASSDRUm.....! It depends on how the Artist uses the Instrument ! Best example is the 303 on AFXs new tracks !
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THE DJ Bladdered
from space on 2001-11-08 16:27 [#00049744]
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AI = Artificial Intelligence Artificial Intelligence = first Warp compilation album, circa '93, including Aphex Twin (as Polygon Window) and Autechre
AIT = arseholes in trouble BTIREOF = boy trapped in refrigerator eats own foot VOILA!!!
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Chrispy
from UK on 2001-11-08 17:00 [#00049748]
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INSIDES IS THE BEST ONE!!! IMNSHO!!!
sorry... bit arrogant there... he he
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Chrispy
from UK on 2001-11-08 17:05 [#00049749]
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Know where to run is the best ever orbital track though.... makes me feel funny.
I like dancing and I dont think the *IDM* title means that the people who listen to it have to be intelligent. The music is doing what it wants, thats all... A.I.M. wicked!
I love D&B BTW
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2-Me0-PhNMePr2N
from (((trapped in hyperspace))) on 2001-11-08 17:13 [#00049752]
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Ghhheckkk. After Autechre, how can you listen to tracks like PETROL, which try to be complicated and IDM-like but are really just simple easily-digested radioplay material? Orbital is good when they're A) making warm simple analog sounds go with chilled-out rhythm sampling (like when Adnan's starts out, Style), or, B) laying down a fast 909/808 beat with fast-as-hell samples and/or some girl singing notes in the background (Nothing Left 1/2, Last Thing, Tootled, Otono, Lush3, -MONDAY- possibly the best song they ever wrote). In Sides had some good tracks, but they've all grown old, whereas I could listen to O2 every damn day of the week and still not get sick of it. Simple doesn't mean dumb, and complex doesn't mean better. You can't just narrow music down to elements like that. Its the final product- what you hear, will hear, and will remember hearing that makes MUSIC into musique.
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hevquip
from a giraffes throat on 2001-11-08 17:15 [#00049753]
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idm/experimental/abstract/ambient is good electronic music. everything else is pretty much shit because it's predictable, easy to make, and all sounds the same. the gayer electronic music is even worse because they all use the same samples and sounds. i can easily make a shit electronic music track in less than 10 minutes because it's easy and takes no effort. idm tracks take more thought and much longer to develop.
why do you people bother to come here and complain about idm? "you guys think it's so much better than everything else," no, i just think everything else sounds like shit. don't argue with us because you'd be trying to tell us our opinions or preferences are wrong. you're not going to change my mind about what i like and don't like, you wanks.
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2-Me0-PhNMePr2N
from (((trapped in hyperspace))) on 2001-11-08 17:18 [#00049754]
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Which is better- the ability to enjoy only IDM or the ability to enjoy everything? If "everything else sounds like shit" to you, you're missing out on everything else. Lots of LPs sound like shit when you first hear them, the trick is the open yourself up. Then, you can tell which music REALLY IS shit, and which music you were just wrong about.
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hevquip
from a giraffes throat on 2001-11-08 17:20 [#00049755]
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the ability to listen to what i like and not have to listen to shit is what i like. don't tell me i'm wrong for not liking shitty music.
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2-Me0-PhNMePr2N
from (((trapped in hyperspace))) on 2001-11-08 17:28 [#00049762]
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Did I ever say that? All I said was, this- something many people have time and time again failed to learn, and which means you aren't taking full responsibility for your descisions:
YOU JUST MIGHT BE WRONG!!
And, besides that, the music you like right now will get old, trust me. Nobody ever said you should like shit, but taking such a shortsighted-one-genre view of music is idiocy, in the very highest sense of the word -just look up the definition of the latin root. Obviously someone likes this "shit", so, obviously, it must be likeable. This is like the person who can't dance because it's not part of his "genre", his "scene", "personal style". All of that is absolute shite. Complete stupidity. Nothing "intelligent" or "experimental" about it whatsoever.
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hevquip
from a giraffes throat on 2001-11-08 18:16 [#00049797]
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i dont have a genre preference, i have a sound preference. "idm" happens to have the sounds i like. i dont want to listen to anything other electronic music because i dont like the way it sounds. if something sounds good to me, i'll listen. most other electronic does not sound good to me. it's like drum and bass for me. i dont like the way it sounds because all drum and bass sounds the same, but if they didn't reuse samples all the time and didn't have the same sounds, i'd listen to it alot more. i like squarepusher though because while he may be considered drum and bass, he packs alot of different sounds into his songs and changes up patterns alot.
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will
from trinidad on 2001-11-08 19:16 [#00049807]
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trance=shit basic techno=shit
unless you're filled to the brim with e and you're sences are so sensitive you'd climax at the sounds of draft punk farting into a mic....
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hevquip
from a giraffes throat on 2001-11-08 19:23 [#00049808]
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eheheh...
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Narkotic
from Orange County, California, USA on 2001-11-08 19:32 [#00049809]
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My opinion on IDM: Intelligent Dance Music/Braindance
It gets your brain moving, they don't mean dance in the aspect of you going on a dance floor and losin it. When I listen to IDM, I sit there, and let my brain dance. Thinking music. Thats how I always looked at it. I mean what else would intellegent dance music mean? Hence "braindance"
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drugiebowzer
from yes on 2001-11-08 20:13 [#00049816]
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Firstly I never claimed that the artists listed were trance, that was sarcasm..sorry you missed it:-)...secondly for as much as so called IDM broadens peoples horizons...haha...I think not having been enforced to endure the endless outpourings of ignorant musically lacking turkeys we have here....heh....if your idea of 4/4 fails to reach outside of Sash and Technotronic then you have no grounds to argue on..-for the idiots among us..i.e because you have no history/understanding of the music...so calm it..and seek other threads to spew forth crap..or maybe better yet seek happiness:-)
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hevquip
from a giraffes throat on 2001-11-08 21:15 [#00049831]
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haha...you're such a cunt. i was not aware that you were such a elite musical wank. i've listened to other electronic music and i think it sounds like shit, therefore, i dont bother listening to it because i dont enjoy it. you say that even though we hate it, we should listen to it. where's the logic in that? i suppose i would listen to all the other electronic music if it wasn't lame shite. i listen to "idm" because it is what i like.
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