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epsy
from Afghanistan on 2003-08-16 17:57 [#00824775]
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so here's the question......when sending stuff to labels like hymen/antzen etc etc do they care enough about music quality to listen to a cd even if its not sent with a photobook of press shots and a 7 page bio of accomplishments etc? I just dont want my demo being thrown into a pile for years, but i also dont want to annoy someone with all that extra glitter if they feel the same way about it that i would
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-08-16 18:06 [#00824777]
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i have never sent a demo with fancy crap on it.
chances are, it may help. it really depends on the label. ive seen to a few labels over the years. ive gotten replies back and nothing special other than the music was sent.
i doubt anyone label would take into consideration your fancy art and biography if the music sucks or even if its great. if the music is good, its good. it doesnt make much of a difference when i sent things out.
best thing to do iis just make a cd with some of your best tracks, so they can give it a short listen.
this is just my experience however, it may be different for other people who have sent/released/whatever.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-08-16 18:09 [#00824780]
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Send it in a sock or something else totally genius and original. I'm sure they're not going to say 'WOW!! what the fuck is this!?' when they recieve a CD with a photoshopped cover of a moody shot of a teenager stood in a diss-used factory...
If you want some attention, grab it!
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epsy
from Afghanistan on 2003-08-16 18:11 [#00824782]
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What i mean is that.....will they even bothering listening to a cd they get that does NOT have all that crap coming with it? I know if the music sucks it sucks, but I didnt know if they just assume that u dont care enough about promoting if u send just a cdr and contact info
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-08-16 18:14 [#00824783]
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I knew what you meant, but a CDR and contact details or a CDR with a biog and mug shots isn't going to get you anywhere, niether of them.
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epsy
from Afghanistan on 2003-08-16 18:17 [#00824784]
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good! i already have a bunch of blank empty envelopes to send them! that was quick...
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-08-16 18:18 [#00824785]
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on all cdrs ive sent over the years, it has just been track titles, email address, cdr.
as simple as that, shouldnt have to do anything more.
so, best of luck. electronic artists dont have it easy lately.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-16 18:21 [#00824786]
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"electronic artists dont have it easy lately."
poor things.
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-08-16 18:22 [#00824787]
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your name is qrter
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-16 18:23 [#00824789]
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not really.
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-08-16 18:24 [#00824790]
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your name is ________
grab a marker and write it on the screen
SUCCESS!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-16 18:25 [#00824791]
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write it where on the screen?
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-08-16 18:25 [#00824792]
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epsy,
They wont listen to it. I think sending stuff to labels is a waste of time. Most labels put out stuff by friends and people they know.
If the music is shit all the fancy artwork in the world wont make any difference. No point sending music unless its stands a really really serious chance of being taken seriously. Of course so many labels have different things there into a different times its impossible to send stuff to right the label at the right time. BTW Rephlex and Warp don't listen to demos period so don't waste your time unless your the next Squarepusher that is. And I'm not talking as someone who sends demos btw.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-08-16 18:28 [#00824793]
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Electronic artists have never had it so good! No need to save up for equipment and room to store it, 'free' Music programs with Vst's galore, get everything ever released by rephlex, warp toytronic etc. for free!!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-16 18:35 [#00824797]
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small labels do listen.
you're right about the larger labels probably not listening, seeing as they use small labels as their A&R department.
but again, the small ones do.
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2003-08-17 07:45 [#00825098]
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Hobbyist electronic musicians have certainly never had it so good - Not so easy to do it full-time/professionally nowadays though.
It could be that in a few years there'll be some real heavy laws against p2p network owners etc... and everything may go tits up - Maybe record sales in IDM (which is getting a lot of distribution&exposure on p2p's) will go through the roof... maybe?
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loopychoon
on 2003-08-17 07:48 [#00825099]
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"BTW Rephlex and Warp don't listen to demos period"
How do you know that?
Anyway, if this is the case why would they have a page of demo submission guidelines? Or indeed, how dare they?
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-08-17 08:17 [#00825108]
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Rekkid labels should have more scouts. Ochre not being on lik ewarp or sumn is a criminal fucking offense.
I've kind of lost a bit of respect for these labels, coz I mean there are some really fucking DOPE unsugned artists on tefo and here and wattem, and IMHO a lot of the shit that the major labels are putting out is just not up to par, esp compared to some of these mp3kids.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-08-17 09:26 [#00825150]
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loopychoon,
Duh! You gotta be pretty dumb not to realise that they haven't released any 'new' artists for probably 3 years. All their releases come from existing artists or other labels or references. On top of that I don't believe that not 1 demo after the thousands of demos received over the past couple of years wasn't any good. Therefore it is extremely unlikely that they don't bother listening to them. Why gonna send a demo? Lol. You better rush down to the post office, quick, quick, quick! Rephlex are waiting for your demo. Lol.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-08-17 09:27 [#00825151]
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Ochre is ok. He is good but I don't know whether he is good enough for Warp. Who knows. He is probably the exception out of a lot of pretty mediocre artists.
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loopychoon
on 2003-08-17 11:50 [#00825307]
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"Duh! You gotta be pretty dumb not to realise that they haven't released any 'new' artists for probably 3 years."
Na, I'd say YOU gotta be pretty dumb for jumping to conclusions and flaming people instead of making your point in a civilised manner.
"On top of that I don't believe that not 1 demo after the thousands of demos received over the past couple
of years wasn't any good."
I agree. However, that doesn't mean they don't listen to them does it?
Not that I am either defending them or claiming to know what they do or don't do.
"Therefore it is extremely unlikely that they don't bother listening to them."
For someone who accuses other people of being dumb you certainly have problems with your sentences :)
Try: Therefore it is extremely unlikely that they DO bother listening to them Or: Therefore it is extremely LIKELY that they don't bother listening to them
Ok smarty pants?
"Why gonna send a demo? Lol. You better rush down to the post office, quick,
quick, quick! Rephlex are waiting for your demo. Lol."
Ooh sarcasm.. gosh those poor people who send their demos really should know better now that you have enlightened them.
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manifestevil
from Australia on 2003-08-17 20:43 [#00825824]
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well obviuosly there is going to be a lot of debate on whether or not it is worth the trouble to send stuff off to whatever label, but the way i see it, unless you try, how will you ever know. the price of a cdr and postage isn't that great so i think its worth the risk of no response.
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lokust
from the forested shorleline ov sou (United States) on 2003-08-17 21:05 [#00825834]
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the way i see it... most labels shop for artists, and don't really care about demos they get.
however, it can't hurt to try. .l. . . .
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-08-17 21:47 [#00825864]
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Man I don;t care what fucking label Id get signed too, I just want someone to put out my records. Getting paid is ghey. If you need money join a rock band and play bars lol.
Epsy I was told that the best way to do it is to find a distro and cut a deal with them. Save up like 2000$ press your own records and pay some one to distro them.
Do you have a link to your stuff ?
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-08-17 22:18 [#00825904]
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Ha I've had offers from mp3.com.au to get on labsl and shit. It's soo dead easy to do, just make a track and get everyone to download it and once you're in like the top 50 or so you just get emails "Dear artist youre in teh top 50 we want to sign you"
They're crap labels tho so be warned. Ever seen the show Kore? I got an email from the music promoters of that show (ie they select tracks to be played during it). So yeah nuff said.
If you wanna get signe don any label do that.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-08-18 04:19 [#00826100]
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od step is right, I had an offer from MTV "Making the video" to use one of my songs in their show. And alos Ive been on the CBC a few times. Just got to get your music out there.
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