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         |  elusive
             from detroit (United States) on 2003-08-09 20:10 [#00815934] Points: 18369 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | who ripped off who? 
 beginning of,
 lexancult - the blurring of trees \08 - strangelove offline
 
 or
 
 Venetian Snares\Songs About My Cats\venetian snares - 03 -
 neptalactone
 
 
 
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         |  horsefactory
             from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-09 20:18 [#00815942] Points: 14867 Status: Regular
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 | i remember some time ago it was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that vsnares is a complete rip off of every "IDM"
 artist in the world
 
 
 
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         |  weatheredstoner
             from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-08-09 22:00 [#00815980] Points: 12585 Status: Lurker | Followup to elusive: #00815934
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 | good ear! 
 The sounds are similar but the arrangements differ.
 
 
 
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         |  handoverthecart
             on 2003-08-09 22:09 [#00815983] Points: 2017 Status: Lurker | Followup to horsefactory: #00815942
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 | haha!  are you speaking of this thread? 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-08-09 22:45 [#00815993] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker
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 | that may be true, but what idea is original, really? if you're going to criticize musicians for making music similar
 to that of other people, you might as well criticize every
 musician in existence. With all of the possibilities on our
 Dorian and Phrygian scales, there is always a chance that
 some guy twiddling in his basement is going to make
 something that may have a faint resemblance to a Bach song
 he's never heard before.
 
 The fact of the matter is, no matter what idea you may have
 thought of, there's about a million other people out there
 who have either done it or thought of it. Many bands in the
 60s obviously ripped off the beatles, in the 70s punk bands
 imitating each other was commonplace (still is today), and
 even in the 90s Seattle rock bands borrowed concepts and
 sounds from one another. For instance, look at Nirvana. Some
 punk musicians agreed that when they first heard them, they
 considered them to be punk. But the radio stations called it
 "grunge." And "new wave" was originally a term coined by
 punk bands looking to become mainstream. And even Aphex
 Twin's SAWII was extraordinarily similar to the works of
 Brian Eno, and yet it was still hailed as being an
 intelligent and thought-provoking work.
 
 I know I sound like a dick, and you're most likely right,
 but you can't criticize anyone for not being original.
 Because there's no such thing as original anymore. :D
 
 
 
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         |  Duble0Syx
             from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-08-09 22:56 [#00815999] Points: 3436 Status: Lurker
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 | I think there still lies a thin possibilty of originality. *note the usage of the word "Thin"
 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-08-09 22:59 [#00816000] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker
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 | yeah, thin as in about 0.00000000000000000000000000000001 percent.  :-D
 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-08-09 22:59 [#00816002] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker
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 | *puts on his soldier helmet, dives in his foxhole and prepares to be bombarded*
 
 
 
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         |  Duble0Syx
             from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-08-09 23:01 [#00816004] Points: 3436 Status: Lurker | Followup to Oddioblender: #00816002
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 | I haven't heard anything that sounds like my shitty music. (tosses a grenade into the foxhole)
 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-08-09 23:03 [#00816006] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker
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 | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH*explodes* 
 
 
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         |  elusive
             from detroit (United States) on 2003-08-10 12:09 [#00816544] Points: 18369 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | Oddio, I completely agree, but this one just REALLY caught my ear.
 
 
 
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         |  roygbivcore
             from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-08-10 12:23 [#00816547] Points: 22557 Status: Lurker
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 | you guys are dumb 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-08-10 12:31 [#00816550] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker | Followup to elusive: #00816544
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 | it's completely understandable. :-D 
 
 
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         |  FLUX
             on 2003-08-11 01:49 [#00817050] Points: 419 Status: Addict
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 | This is quite ridiculous. At one point or another every IDM artist sounds like
 another.  It springs from the use of similar instrument,
 effects etc.  That is why if you notice all of the albums
 that are released in a similar time period share similar
 traits.  Early UZIQ can easily be confused for early Aphex.
 Some of the Early Squarepusher tracks sound a whole lot like
 late period drill'n'bass Aphex etc etc etc.
 
 Moaning about this is quite childish considering this
 problem is a lot more common in guitar/bass/drum based Rock,
 riffs get lifted and reapropriated as do melodies and chord
 progressions.  And lets not even get started on Hip Hop.
 
 
 
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         |  JAroen
             from the pineal gland on 2003-08-11 02:03 [#00817058] Points: 16065 Status: Regular
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 | after reading that thread handoverthecart posted i think vsnares is laughing all the way to the bank...
 
 ripoff!! :P
 
 
 
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