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Yay or nay? |
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nay |
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nay |
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naaaay |
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nay... but i do think pants have feeling |
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By feeling I suppose you mean "have the ability to feel sensations", not actual emotions... : ) |
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I don't think so |
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i meant emotions. maybe.... they do. |
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Plants feel fuck all, they have no nervous system. |
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No they don't. |
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Who says you have to have a mammal-like nervoussystem to feel? |
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You just do, that's naturre. |
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thoses climbing plants must have senses at least. |
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the plants in your avatar give me feelings! |
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But if things caused them pain they would have developed something to stop you walking along and cutting them down don't you think. |
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I believe they "feel" but in a different way. They may not have a nervous system, but they have intelligent cells that carry out functions in response to external stimuli such as light, shadow and physical structures. Music has been reported to have an effect on plants as well. While I'm sure it has to do with the frequency of sound waves, classical music appears to exert the greatest growth effect on plants. Then.....there is the ever prevailing Force....... |
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plant do react in a way, like those insect eating ones. |
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I agree with Catharsis, probably plants feel - some more than other perhaps - but they probably don't have any way of knowing that they feel, or sort of collect all that sensory input into one coherent stream of data which makes them aware of their surroundings - a sense of self. |
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yes, but that's a reflex - has nothing to do with consciousness or emotion. |
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yep...but i wasnt implying the contrary sir!! |
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just pointing things out thats all.... new team doyobi by the way guyz!! |
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you mean like cows and pigs have developed natural ways to fend us off..? |
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i always figured plants felt some things. I mean, when you cut a tree down, somewhere something in that tree has to be going "HOLY FUCKING SHIT!" other than that, I doubt they care too much. |
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yeah... now this is getting a bit more interesting! id like to think that they do have some sort of feelings, like they arent going to cry if you call them a name ofcourse, but like someone said, it probably kinda knows whats going on if you cut it down, or take a chunk out of it. |
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they have the same kind of goals that mammals have. surviving and procreating....basically assuring a continuity |
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and yes qrter, that doesnt necesseraly mean they think...... |
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its funny how some humans have a way with plants and growing them and some just dont, no matter how hard they try..... plants loved my nan.... lol |
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I'll have to find out a bit more about this... but years and years ago, at college, I read about a study, where they hooked up a plant to some sort of electrical sensor equipment... And it would register a responce when they did something like drop other plants into a pot of boiling water in another room... Or something like that! It's quite a well known experiment, but it's been a while, so I might have missed something out... But yeah, in a way they do have feelings - It's hard to know how much is pure reflex action and how much could be some form of awareness - It may be that every living thing is aware on some level... Tough one though - There's no way to prove it - There's no way to prove that anyone is really aware though is there - All you know is that you're aware - Everyone else could just be walking meat. |
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obviously my nan loved plants........thats what made a difference, but could they feel her love ? what i mean is that 2 people could use the same soil and ferteliser and stuff....but the person with green hands as they say will have better results....why? sorry for multiple posts in a row |
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yay |
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yes sorry yay |
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Pants have nay feelings......just as well really. |
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I really hope not, cos that'd suck for veggies like myself. I'd have to eat stones. I've heard they have higher levels of "stress" hormones after being uprooted, so i think that might imply a HOLY FUCKING SHIT reaction, but i wouldn't say it made them sentient beings with feelings and emotions. Pants, though, i'm not sure about. |
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Your not sure?....Are you sure? |
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Around eleventeen percent sure. |
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duhhh havent you guys seen fern gulley? |
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how do you define 'feelings', is the first question here :) |
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Stones... Doesn't they contain silicon? Some can conduct energy I think. It's been proposed in the exobiology field, where they try to figure out how lifeforms can look/be on other places than our earth, that silicon-based lifeforms could exist. Like an intelligent mountain or something like that. I've read a novel about what could happen when all the stars have died out. When the temperature drops to almost absolute zero things become supraconductive. In the novel a person travels to the end of time and watches with amazement how things start to form outside his capsule - how everything around him starts to act like a huge brain...something like that. I don't remeber too well, it was a number of years ago that I read it but it seemed like a nice idea at the time. |
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Plants do not have any kind of central nervous system, hence don't have any feelings like ours. Why they are reacting to certain inputs is quite the same as with some of our own mechanisms of reacting, just with different chemical substances. For instance: they can sense the concentration of sucrose, which is an indication for the presence of sunlight (through the proces of photosynthesis) and then grow towards the place with most sunlight. So they sort of feel something. But pain and emotions, I don't believe they feel that. |
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If plants had felings.... what would pot be feeling? |
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Probably: "Fucking stop smoking me. It hurts." |
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negatory |
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hmmm .... i don't know. let me go stomp down this flowerbush and ask it afterwards how it feels. *stomp stomp crush smash* hmmm.... is that it? it didn't say shit. That's a no, I guess. |
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Pain is more complex than a reflex due to stimulus. Fish don't feel pain, their brains aren't complex enough. Plants don't feel sensation. As an example, get a local anesthetic in your arm effectively disabling the nerve going to your hand. Now, chop off your fingers. |
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"then grow towards the place with most sunlight. So they sort of feel something." All that happens is the cells that are shaded release auxin which causes them to elongate. It's not so coordinated that the plant itself actually "senses"' or "feels" something. |
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Plants and trree etc... arre pointless anyway I mean all they arre arre living orrnaments. It's not like we need them so who carres. |
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