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offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-08 12:12 [#00814627]
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Does anyone here read online music reviews from sites like
allusic.com, pitchforkmedia, almostcool.org etc.?

I know themilkfactory and absorb are pretty decent. I just
finished reading allmusic's review of Confield, and here is
my synopsis:

"Ewwey, the music is nasty, makes my ears feel bad, has no
beat, doesn't sound orthodox...wah wah wah. If I don't like
it in 5 minutes it sucks...wah..wah....wah"

Anyone agree that there are those that shouldn't be
qualified to give reviews? Rolling Stone doesn't even take
the time to understand electronica never mind give it
judgement.


 

offline Duble0Syx from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-08-08 12:39 [#00814669]
Points: 3436 Status: Lurker



go read rolling stones review of Drukqs, then read the
reviews regular people made. Then go to amazon.com and look
up the book the reviewer wrote and read the reviews of it,
it's hilarious.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2003-08-08 12:40 [#00814671]
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I think the reviews on almostcool.org are very good...


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-08 13:03 [#00814688]
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i agree with AMG 75% of the time so that's the one i trust
the most. pitchfork is really, really off the mark most of
the times. they are obsessed with fitting into or bucking
trends; nothing else, like music, matters to them. the milk
factory and absorb are great. brainwashed is also great. the
only music magazine i actually read and trust for reviews is
urb.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-08-08 13:45 [#00814721]
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most reviewers suck because it isnt your opinion. its as
simple as that.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-08 13:53 [#00814726]
Points: 27795 Status: Regular | Followup to REFLEX: #00814721



it is


 

offline SCHIZOPHRENIC from Los Angeles (United States) on 2003-08-08 14:32 [#00814753]
Points: 134 Status: Lurker



Everytime I read reviews all the good songs are the bad
songs and all the bad songs are the good songs!


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-08 19:55 [#00815060]
Points: 836 Status: Regular | Followup to Duble0Syx: #00814669



That WAS funny. Thanks for cheering me up. Pat Blashill
really is a dumbass reviewer with a job that he doesn't
deserve. :)


 

offline Duble0Syx from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-08-08 20:34 [#00815092]
Points: 3436 Status: Lurker | Followup to catharsis: #00815060



I laughed at that hard enough a year ago that I still
remember today.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-08-08 20:35 [#00815093]
Points: 5437 Status: Regular



to say that pitchfork is the worst out of that bunch is a
little bewildering... sure, i've disagreed with them on a
lot of electronic reviews lately, and they have a bit of a
silly double standard when it comes to electronic music...
but they still host some of the finest music reviewers i
have read anywhere... Mark Richardson is one of the few
reviewers i have ever read anywhere that has a strong enough
knowledge of avant-electronic to understand how to begin to
review it... the dude from almostcool seems like an amateur
fanboy... allmusic is a great resource but the reviews are
hit and miss... review sites i visit on a regular basis
are:
absorb.org
fakejazz.com (if you want obscure rock, this is THE place)
popmatters.com
dustedmagazine.com
themilkfactory
and metacritic.com, a very cool site which compiles reviews
from multiple sources and gives an album a net score... it
may not deal with the most obscure fare... but it is an
interesting cultural barometer...


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-08 20:37 [#00815094]
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I like absorb. their review of Cassetteboy's "The Parker
Tapes" was great.

normally I hate how journalists write reviews - endless
metaphores. JUST WRITE WHAT YOU THINK!


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-08-08 20:41 [#00815097]
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i think some of the finest reviews i've ever read say very
little about the album itself (check out pitchfork's review
of St. Anger, or the Marshall Mathers LP)... to simply say
"it's good" or "it's bad"... doesn't help the listener
synthesize what they are listening to the way long narrative
lines inspired by the music do... i like the idea of the
review being an artistic response or echo to the music
itself...


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-08 20:42 [#00815099]
Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to DeadEight: #00815093



it's the worst out of the sites i actually check. the fact
that i'll still READ pitchfork, even if rarely, is a
compliment. i'm critical of them, because they really
deserve harsh criticism, but it comes down to their being
just fair enough that i'll still read some of the reviews
that most interest/pertain to me.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-08-08 20:44 [#00815101]
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some of their reviewers are completely off their rocker...
but i can still appreciate that they approach reviewing
music from a different angle than the run-of-the-mill
reviewer....


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-08 20:50 [#00815107]
Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to DeadEight: #00815101



it's not that avant garde, they just make a big fuss about
it cos they think they're being original. and sure they do
cover a lot of great music, but they never seem to "get it"
and spend too much time pretending they do, and slobbering
all over it, or not bothering, and just think of the
cleverest way to put it down for being too different from
what they wanted, expected, and can process. basically the
pitchfork reviewers, with few exceptions, are complete and
utter assholes who can't be bothered to understand music as
it interferes with their campaign to appear cool and "in the
scene." just about every album i've loved over the last 4
years has been bagged on by their reviewers, and those that
haven't i often wonder if they are being for real or not.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-08 20:54 [#00815109]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to DeadEight: #00815097



oh I don't mean just say "it's good" or "it sucks" - I mean
actually saying what you mean.

NOT trying to turn your review into short fiction. it always
feels like the reviewer is trying to hide something - style
over substance.

I'm not a moron - they don't have to artificially sweeten
their reviews for me, they don't have to convince me they
think they're smart guys.

btw, I really dislike pitchfork too.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-08-08 20:55 [#00815111]
Points: 5437 Status: Regular



i'll take those few exceptions every time:

mark martelli
mark richardson
andy beta
paul cooper
dominique leone (actually i really dislike her... but she
has an understanding of japanese noise music that goes
beyond what anyone else can claim)


 

offline Sanguine from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-08-09 03:05 [#00815256]
Points: 859 Status: Lurker



I'll do reviews for xltronic the same way I do reviews for
the tracks on the board if people are keen on that... I
think I'd do a hell of a lot better job than most of the
reviews I've read


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-09 09:20 [#00815365]
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Yes Sanguine. I'm confident you could do a better job. As
an xltronic member, you obviously have great taste in music.


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-08-09 15:09 [#00815636]
Points: 9601 Status: Lurker



i don't trust reviews of anything that often. if you notice,
most musicians are far more understanding of musical works
than most critics. i think it's honestly something to do
with mental wavelengths. most IDM artists are on a
particular wavelength, and it takes a particular type of
critic to understand where they're coming from.


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-08-09 15:11 [#00815638]
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i think part of is, some magazines have so many cds they
review each month that they don't have to sort through them
and pick out who should listen to what. So often, the cd
will land on the desk of a guy who grew up on 70s punk and
maybe some metal - they listen to it, and obviously despise
it, and obviously write a poor review. I think that's the
case with some publications, I would think...

but pat blashill is a dumbass, indeed.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-08-09 18:30 [#00815837]
Points: 5437 Status: Regular



that's exactly it... when Dominique Leone explains in the
Draft 7:30 review that she didn't really understand what was
going on on Confield... it kind of makes you raise your
eyebrow... and lose interest in anything she has to say that
follows...


 


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