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offline Nexus 6 from Netherlands, The on 2003-08-03 11:43 [#00806629]
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so, I'm gonna try mushrooms one of these days and the only
legal way to get it here is to buy wet ones at the smart
shop. I'd like to know your experiences with wet mushrooms.
What's the best way to take it? I don't have time to dry em.
I was thinking about making tea out of it. any suggestions?


 

offline Spacecadet on 2003-08-03 12:19 [#00806681]
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eat them, they taste like shit


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-03 12:22 [#00806691]
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do not use fresh shrooms to make tea. you can only use dried
ones for tea. if they're fresh, you wont have to eat that
much. sure the taste is awful, but if you're not eating them
dried, i would not blend em up with something else, unless
you like green/blue shroom goo. eat em, wash down with
orange juice.

how much are you buying? which ones?


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-08-03 12:23 [#00806693]
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never had mushrooms. the most i've done is weed and ecstasy
a couple of times. and i haven't done either in a long long
time.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-08-03 12:34 [#00806711]
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I had mushrooms tonight, they werre wet. They arre nice
dipped in the grravey, if you don't they taste to soiley.


 

offline Nexus 6 from Netherlands, The on 2003-08-03 13:11 [#00806796]
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well, I'll prolly eat em then. I dunno which ones I'm gonna
get and how much. I'm really a noob when it comes to
mushrooms. This will be my first and last time.
I'm gonna get them at a shop called sirius. ever heard of
that smartshop?


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2003-08-03 13:25 [#00806832]
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not heard of that shop - you can't go wrong with liberty
caps (psilopsybins - although that spelling doesn't quite
look right)...
they do taste like utter dirt, just like eating soil -
drying them and making tea is probably the nicest way to do
them - few tea bags in a big pot with a few hundred
mushrooms should do you well. adding sugar and tea bags
really masks the muddy taste!
i'd recommend a few beers first though - it's a tough one -
you don't trip quite the same with alcohol in you, it sort
of dulls the effects slightly, but... it can completely take
the edge off - i've had one or two sketchy times on
mushrooms - i've often had my best trips when i've been out
drinking with friends and have quite a bit of skunk to
smoke... then just drink tea gradually, and you'll slip into
it really nicely...
although.. first time i did 'em i was stone old sober, ate a
big handful of the wet ones and laughed my arse off for
about 3 hours - couldn't stop laughing, it actually hurt,
remember thinking "i'm insane! i'm insane! hahaha!" and
that's about it... not as deep or introspective as LSD
(probably can be), but more lighthearted fun.


 

offline Nexus 6 from Netherlands, The on 2003-08-03 13:31 [#00806841]
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hehe, I'd love to dry them and make some tea, but I don't
have much time. 5 days to be exact. So I'll prolly end up
eating them. I'll keep the name psilopsybins in mind, thank
you.


 

offline Q4Z2X on 2003-08-03 14:06 [#00806871]
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grind them up and put them into some type of dessert


 

offline Nexus 6 from Netherlands, The on 2003-08-03 14:09 [#00806873]
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like a milkshake or something? that'd be tasty, I'd like
that.


 

offline Q4Z2X on 2003-08-03 14:13 [#00806876]
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i had some my sister made into chocolate candies, you
couldn't taste the mushroom really, there was just a bit of
grit in there.. but it was still much better than eating
them plain, though.


 

offline Nexus 6 from Netherlands, The on 2003-08-03 14:15 [#00806879]
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nice, same effect?


 

offline wilcoooo from Sydney (Belgium) on 2003-08-03 14:20 [#00806893]
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you can use wet shrooms for tea, it makes absolutely NO
difference.
I often heard that the dry ones are better but that's
bullshit.
buy the hawain for intense visuals (i recommend these), the
scottish for a great laugh and the mexican is like between
them.
it's best not to use alcohol and/or weed before you use
them, but it's nice to smoke a spliff when they are fully
kickin in.
And vitamins will kill the effect and sugar will increase
the tripping.
you can also hide the taste if you put your shrooms in soup,
pizza or an omelet.
have a nice trip.


 

offline Q4Z2X on 2003-08-03 14:24 [#00806898]
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yeah, actually it works a little better, since they are
ground up, your body breaks them down better, releasing more
of the drug to your body, instead of just havin larger bite
sized staying as chunks in your stomach that coat with mucus
and never break down fully.


 

offline Nexus 6 from Netherlands, The on 2003-08-03 14:26 [#00806902]
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thanks you both, that was very usefull :D


 

offline corticalstim from Canada on 2003-08-04 18:46 [#00809150]
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i might be trying this soon - and i think i am going to
grind mine up and put them in icecream

i suppose if the sugar helps the trip then it will be nice
:)

i also will have a niec blunt to smoke once im feeling it

gonna go chill on a grassy hill and listen to music all day
with some friends :)


 

offline corticalstim from Canada on 2003-08-04 19:09 [#00809189]
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what do you guys think abot the ice cream idea? or the music
and hill idea? think those are good ideas for a nice trip?

also - how long does a mushroom trip last?


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-08-04 22:59 [#00809391]
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i believe it's possible that the milk may inhibit the
absorption.

if they are dry, grind them into a powder for maximum
absorption.

avoid cooking or exposure to heat.

the experience generally lasts 4-6 hours with a peak of
maybe an hour or an hour and a half. the lingering
aftereffects can last some hours longer, causing insomnia.
this depends, of course, on what other drugs you take in
addition to the mushroom.



 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-08-04 23:01 [#00809392]
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i'm not a good resource for recreational suggestions since i
consider the mushroom a sacrament.

i had a great time watching osho on tv though.


 

offline corticalstim from Canada on 2003-08-04 23:12 [#00809400]
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thanks for the help :)


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2003-08-05 05:14 [#00809555]
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what is this world coming to?


 

offline ScenarioDr on 2003-08-05 05:30 [#00809560]
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shrooms are cool. my best drug experience was with shrooms.
we had liberty caps which had been turned in to powder. i
did a gram, dont know how many shrooms that worked out as
though. i started feeling it after 35 or so minutes. had a
great time as there were about 12 of us all doing them,
wandering the streets, walking through fields laughing like
crazy. good times.

i wish you could buy em in shops over here, you dutchies are
lucky.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-05 06:55 [#00809629]
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bullshit:

-various strains have different effects and some give more
visuals than others.(fact: active substances: psilocin,
psilocybin, therefore hallucinogenic mushrooms are often
called psilocybes)

-eat sugar to increase the trip (this is the stupidest thing
you could do, because it will actually decrease the
intensity. if you feel like you're going into a bad trip,
drink fruit juice with sugar)

-you can make tea with fresh shrooms. sure, i'll bet you can
make regular tea with fresh apples too then. a shroom
consists of over 90% of water)

facts:

plaidzebra is right about milk (dairy products in general)
not being suitable for shroom recipes as it coats your
stomach and prevents maximum breakdown.

wet shrooms are more potent, but obviously weigh more. in
correctly dried ones there will hardly be a noticeable
difference in potency. never dry shrooms in the sun, heat
will destroy the active substances. dry them with a fan in
24 hours, store them in an airtight container with
desiccant.

if you make tea, the effects will come on faster, but the
trip ends sooner. chewing on dry mushrooms is still the best
way, as saliva helps break down the mushrooms in your mouth
before you swallow them. the active substances can be
absorbed in your mouth, so chew on them as long as
possible.

to mask the awful taste, you can use honey, mixed with cocoa
powder. chocolate is said to have a positive effect, as well
as vitamin C.

smoke pot before you trip to take the edge off, smoke it
when you're peaking to intensify and prolong the effects.

alcohol is generally a bad idea, but in my experience, you
can sip on a beer for hours and enjoy it just the same (not
usually too thirsty). drink plenty of water beforehand.

this and loads more on www.shroomery.org (messageboard, faq,
everything) and www.erowid.org (faqs, images and more on
pretty much every drug)

have fun!


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2003-08-05 07:38 [#00809672]
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Ah, good stuff!
I've certainly had my best trips when I've had a big bag of
skunk to smoke...
I've always found drinking before tripping works quite well,
but drinking during tripping seems to kill the effects
pretty quickly.

But...
That Fly Agaric (However it's spelt!) -
The poisonous red mushroom with white spots...
Where you just take a small slither of skin, fall asleep,
wake up an hour later, throw up, then trip HEAVILY!
Must be a completely different substance to libery caps
surely? It is such a different experience...


 

offline ScenarioDr on 2003-08-05 08:03 [#00809692]
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i've wanted to try that since i saw that sacred weeds
program on channel 4 a couple of years back. looks pretty
mental, judging by what the people on this prog did.

and mescalin too, though that sounds pretty hardcore. anyone
tried it?


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2003-08-05 09:36 [#00809833]
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Oh yeah! I saw that program.
They did some crazy hallucinogens!
I remember White lilly (I think), which hadn't been tried
since ancient egyptian times...
Really interesting seeing these middle class, non-drug
taking types taking large doses of psychedelic substances
for the first time - I always though they needed some weed
to smoke rather than being probed(!?) by scientists.
I've always found it a little sketchy just being around
level-headed people when I'm tripping - Especially
scientists taking my blood pressure and asking me what I'm
seeing!
Great show though.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-05 09:36 [#00809834]
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was hoping this was about mush records


 

offline ScenarioDr on 2003-08-05 09:45 [#00809865]
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yeah, the worst thing you can have when you are tripping is
a straight person asking you if you are ok etc. send you
sideways straight away.

that fly agaric looked pretty intense. i remember this one
guy sitting up in a tree talking all kinds of nonsense. and
another saying he could "see" the music coming from the
speakers of this stereo they had. crazy stuff.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-05 10:27 [#00809931]
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the fly agaric can be lethal if prepared incorrectly. not to
be messed with. this is no party drug (psilocybe shrooms
arent party drugs either).

look up info on this mushroom on erowid and the shroomery.

dont let some TV documentary inspire you to do stuff you'll
regret for the rest of your life. why not just go smoke some
datura plants as well?

i'm not messing with mescaline either. i do have a san pedro
cactus growing, so maybe in 10 years or so i can try it, but
i'm definitely not ready for that yet.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-05 10:30 [#00809935]
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sorry to be so serious on the subject, but i've just seen
too many people do stupid things. on the shroomery board,
almost every day you see people write up topics like:

"i just ate this mushroom i found in my backyard, it was
black and not too big, tasted funny' AM I GOING TO BE OK?"

the way i see it, hallucinogens are to be treated with
respect, and that doesnt mean that mushroom trips cant be
recreational, but at least do your research on the subject.
it could save you a lot of trouble.


 

offline ScenarioDr on 2003-08-05 10:33 [#00809941]
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oh yeah, i know all the dangers with these things. i've had
some bad experiences on acid aswell so i dont take these
things lightly, im just kind of intrigued by them, you know
what i mean?

cheers for the advice though.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-08-05 10:53 [#00809971]
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make tea, just dont get the water boiling hot. the effects
hit you within 15 minutes. but it's true they don't last as
long, to prolong it, take vitimin C and drink more tea.

i've had bad experiences when mixing weed with shrooms or
LSD. i don't recommend it untill you have some experience
with the shrooms by themselves.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-08-05 10:54 [#00809973]
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oh and, always trip with people you trust.



 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-08-05 10:57 [#00809984]
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I've not tried real mescalin, only bromo-mescalin which is a
synthetic mescalin that comes in these red pills. You
swallow them crush the pills up and snort them, which works
the best. When you snort them though, it is extremely
painful. It feals like someone punched you in the face.
but you start hallucinating within a couple minutes with
very little head trip.

people have likened it to 'being kicked in the face by the
psychadellic horse.'


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-08-05 10:58 [#00809987]
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swallow them or crush them up.. sorry typo


 

offline wilcoooo from Sydney (Belgium) on 2003-08-05 11:19 [#00810039]
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-various strains have different effects and some give
more
visuals than others.(fact: active substances: psilocin,
psilocybin, therefore hallucinogenic mushrooms are often
called psilocybes)


just personal experiences of me and others i know, and not
every shroom is the same.
i've had a more intense trip with 1 portion of hawaian
shrooms then 2 portions of mexican.

-eat sugar to increase the trip (this is the stupidest
thing
you could do, because it will actually decrease the
intensity. if you feel like you're going into a bad trip,
drink fruit juice with sugar)


FRUIT JUICE, because of the vitamins.
SUGAR, i also thought that it wore the effect off, but i had
(recent) experiences and the opposite was the case.
(maybe my body doesn't works as it has to, but it's fine
with me)

-you can make tea with fresh shrooms. sure, i'll bet you
can
make regular tea with fresh apples too then. a shroom
consists of over 90% of water)


it works fine and smartshops even recommend to use wet
shrooms for tea. (btw you still have to eat the leftovers
for maximum effect.)

to mask the awful taste, you can use honey, mixed with
cocoa
powder. chocolate is said to have a positive effect, as well
as vitamin C.


so you think you get vitamin tablets from smartshops to mask
the taste? (:|

alcohol decreases the effect. (i don't think you're in the
mood to get drunk though)

-nexus: please share your experience :)



 

offline wilcoooo from Sydney (Belgium) on 2003-08-05 11:28 [#00810061]
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the way i see it, hallucinogens are to be treated with
respect


true, it can really fuck up your mind, seen people go
completly nuts and now living in a mental institution.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-05 11:31 [#00810068]
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i can just picture you or anyone else for that matter
squeezing 3 or 4 fullsized shrooms in a cup and pouring hot
water over them. fresh mushrooms are for eating. i dont
know what you're on about. why do you think teabags are
filled with dry matter? they even sold pre-made shroom
teabags when that wasnt illegal yet.

as for various experiences with different strains: it all
depends on your mood, set and setting, how much you ate
(other food that day), how long its been since your last
trip etc..

i got vit. C tablets from the smartshop once and they said
'take these if you're not feeling well'. i dont know if they
thought it would end the trip or not, but nobody really
knows if it has any effect at all. do a search on the
shroomery for 'vitamin C'. at least it cant do any harm. by
the way, i wasnt implying that vitamin C does anything to
mask the taste.

i also got a 'dipsauce' once that consisted of honey and
cocoa, and i'm pretty sure about chocolate intensifying the
effects.

also, a single beer wont matter a whole lot, just as one
small joint wont matter that much. it all depends on too
many things.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-05 11:35 [#00810075]
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vitamin C works against a 'bad trip' on weed, just like
sugar water.

wouldn't say it'd work for mushrooms though..


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-05 11:37 [#00810085]
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Read this

it's in Dutch, its the site of the Dutch Trimbos Institute -
the experts on druguse.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-08-05 12:02 [#00810136]
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teabags are full of dry matter to preserve the tea.

i assure you, making tea with wet shrooms works. that's
practically the only way i've ever done it. what do you
think happens to dry shrooms when you add hot water? they
rehydrate.
tea recipie



 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-05 12:03 [#00810143]
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true.

you can make tea with fresh tea leaves too.

to dry them is for convenience.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-08-05 17:07 [#00810569]
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i don't understand why you would make a tea. why not just
eat them? if you don't want to chew them up, grind or mash
them up first. you're going to eat the pulp from the tea
anyway. i'm sure the tea doesn't taste any better than the
mushrooms.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-08-05 17:12 [#00810575]
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tea covers the awful taste of mushrooms and tea makes the
effects hit you faster. if you want to eat the shrooms
anyway, tea makes them slippery so they are easily swallowed
without lingering in your mouth.

some people like the taste of the shrooms but it makes me
want to puke.

thats why i prefer tea anyway. though i haven't shroomed in
years.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-05 17:18 [#00810579]
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mushrooms are for poofs, take some acid muthafucka


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-08-05 17:19 [#00810580]
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nitrous is another "escape hatch" for an oncoming bad trip.

it has saved my ass several times. soon as i feel the
animal climbing on, huff a couple whipits, laugh myself
silly and everything is ok after that.


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-05 17:24 [#00810589]
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every time i see this topic title i think its about
mushrooms


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-05 17:25 [#00810591]
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it.... is.. about mushrooms...

i was obviously very confused

mushrooms are nice


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2003-08-05 19:08 [#00810755]
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Any of you had any experience with those f*in crazy
microdots I was on about the other day?
Look like tiny bits of lighter flint - Sometimes black,
silver or gold...
Basically, tore apart my reality for a good solid 24 hours -
Made even the most intense acid/mushroom+e+K experience seem
like a quiet night out with my nan.
I still fear it'll come back to haunt me actually! Do get
the occasional jilt - The occasional feeling like my
reality's just about to fall apart! Prolly leaving me a
wabbling heap on the floor! Most amazing experience I've
ever known though...


 

offline corticalstim from Canada on 2003-08-05 21:53 [#00810982]
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well - its decided - this friday i am going out to sit on
the side of a grassy hill and shroom with some friends :)


 


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