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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2003-08-03 11:43 [#00806629]
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so, I'm gonna try mushrooms one of these days and the only legal way to get it here is to buy wet ones at the smart shop. I'd like to know your experiences with wet mushrooms. What's the best way to take it? I don't have time to dry em. I was thinking about making tea out of it. any suggestions?
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Spacecadet
on 2003-08-03 12:19 [#00806681]
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eat them, they taste like shit
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-03 12:22 [#00806691]
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do not use fresh shrooms to make tea. you can only use dried ones for tea. if they're fresh, you wont have to eat that much. sure the taste is awful, but if you're not eating them dried, i would not blend em up with something else, unless you like green/blue shroom goo. eat em, wash down with orange juice.
how much are you buying? which ones?
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-08-03 12:23 [#00806693]
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never had mushrooms. the most i've done is weed and ecstasy a couple of times. and i haven't done either in a long long time.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-08-03 12:34 [#00806711]
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I had mushrooms tonight, they werre wet. They arre nice dipped in the grravey, if you don't they taste to soiley.
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2003-08-03 13:11 [#00806796]
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well, I'll prolly eat em then. I dunno which ones I'm gonna get and how much. I'm really a noob when it comes to mushrooms. This will be my first and last time.
I'm gonna get them at a shop called sirius. ever heard of that smartshop?
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2003-08-03 13:25 [#00806832]
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not heard of that shop - you can't go wrong with liberty caps (psilopsybins - although that spelling doesn't quite look right)...
they do taste like utter dirt, just like eating soil - drying them and making tea is probably the nicest way to do them - few tea bags in a big pot with a few hundred mushrooms should do you well. adding sugar and tea bags really masks the muddy taste!
i'd recommend a few beers first though - it's a tough one - you don't trip quite the same with alcohol in you, it sort of dulls the effects slightly, but... it can completely take the edge off - i've had one or two sketchy times on mushrooms - i've often had my best trips when i've been out drinking with friends and have quite a bit of skunk to smoke... then just drink tea gradually, and you'll slip into it really nicely...
although.. first time i did 'em i was stone old sober, ate a big handful of the wet ones and laughed my arse off for about 3 hours - couldn't stop laughing, it actually hurt, remember thinking "i'm insane! i'm insane! hahaha!" and that's about it... not as deep or introspective as LSD (probably can be), but more lighthearted fun.
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2003-08-03 13:31 [#00806841]
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hehe, I'd love to dry them and make some tea, but I don't have much time. 5 days to be exact. So I'll prolly end up eating them. I'll keep the name psilopsybins in mind, thank you.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-08-03 14:06 [#00806871]
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grind them up and put them into some type of dessert
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2003-08-03 14:09 [#00806873]
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like a milkshake or something? that'd be tasty, I'd like that.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-08-03 14:13 [#00806876]
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i had some my sister made into chocolate candies, you couldn't taste the mushroom really, there was just a bit of grit in there.. but it was still much better than eating them plain, though.
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2003-08-03 14:15 [#00806879]
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nice, same effect?
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wilcoooo
from Sydney (Belgium) on 2003-08-03 14:20 [#00806893]
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you can use wet shrooms for tea, it makes absolutely NO difference.
I often heard that the dry ones are better but that's bullshit.
buy the hawain for intense visuals (i recommend these), the scottish for a great laugh and the mexican is like between them.
it's best not to use alcohol and/or weed before you use them, but it's nice to smoke a spliff when they are fully kickin in.
And vitamins will kill the effect and sugar will increase the tripping.
you can also hide the taste if you put your shrooms in soup, pizza or an omelet.
have a nice trip.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-08-03 14:24 [#00806898]
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yeah, actually it works a little better, since they are ground up, your body breaks them down better, releasing more of the drug to your body, instead of just havin larger bite sized staying as chunks in your stomach that coat with mucus and never break down fully.
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2003-08-03 14:26 [#00806902]
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thanks you both, that was very usefull :D
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-08-04 18:46 [#00809150]
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i might be trying this soon - and i think i am going to grind mine up and put them in icecream
i suppose if the sugar helps the trip then it will be nice :)
i also will have a niec blunt to smoke once im feeling it
gonna go chill on a grassy hill and listen to music all day with some friends :)
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-08-04 19:09 [#00809189]
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what do you guys think abot the ice cream idea? or the music and hill idea? think those are good ideas for a nice trip?
also - how long does a mushroom trip last?
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-08-04 22:59 [#00809391]
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i believe it's possible that the milk may inhibit the absorption.
if they are dry, grind them into a powder for maximum absorption.
avoid cooking or exposure to heat.
the experience generally lasts 4-6 hours with a peak of maybe an hour or an hour and a half. the lingering aftereffects can last some hours longer, causing insomnia. this depends, of course, on what other drugs you take in addition to the mushroom.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-08-04 23:01 [#00809392]
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i'm not a good resource for recreational suggestions since i consider the mushroom a sacrament.
i had a great time watching osho on tv though.
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-08-04 23:12 [#00809400]
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thanks for the help :)
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-08-05 05:14 [#00809555]
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what is this world coming to?
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ScenarioDr
on 2003-08-05 05:30 [#00809560]
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shrooms are cool. my best drug experience was with shrooms. we had liberty caps which had been turned in to powder. i did a gram, dont know how many shrooms that worked out as though. i started feeling it after 35 or so minutes. had a great time as there were about 12 of us all doing them, wandering the streets, walking through fields laughing like crazy. good times.
i wish you could buy em in shops over here, you dutchies are lucky.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-05 06:55 [#00809629]
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bullshit:
-various strains have different effects and some give more visuals than others.(fact: active substances: psilocin, psilocybin, therefore hallucinogenic mushrooms are often called psilocybes)
-eat sugar to increase the trip (this is the stupidest thing you could do, because it will actually decrease the intensity. if you feel like you're going into a bad trip, drink fruit juice with sugar)
-you can make tea with fresh shrooms. sure, i'll bet you can make regular tea with fresh apples too then. a shroom consists of over 90% of water)
facts:
plaidzebra is right about milk (dairy products in general) not being suitable for shroom recipes as it coats your stomach and prevents maximum breakdown.
wet shrooms are more potent, but obviously weigh more. in correctly dried ones there will hardly be a noticeable difference in potency. never dry shrooms in the sun, heat will destroy the active substances. dry them with a fan in 24 hours, store them in an airtight container with desiccant.
if you make tea, the effects will come on faster, but the trip ends sooner. chewing on dry mushrooms is still the best way, as saliva helps break down the mushrooms in your mouth before you swallow them. the active substances can be absorbed in your mouth, so chew on them as long as possible.
to mask the awful taste, you can use honey, mixed with cocoa powder. chocolate is said to have a positive effect, as well as vitamin C.
smoke pot before you trip to take the edge off, smoke it when you're peaking to intensify and prolong the effects.
alcohol is generally a bad idea, but in my experience, you can sip on a beer for hours and enjoy it just the same (not usually too thirsty). drink plenty of water beforehand.
this and loads more on www.shroomery.org (messageboard, faq, everything) and www.erowid.org (faqs, images and more on pretty much every drug)
have fun!
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2003-08-05 07:38 [#00809672]
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Ah, good stuff! I've certainly had my best trips when I've had a big bag of skunk to smoke...
I've always found drinking before tripping works quite well, but drinking during tripping seems to kill the effects pretty quickly.
But... That Fly Agaric (However it's spelt!) - The poisonous red mushroom with white spots... Where you just take a small slither of skin, fall asleep, wake up an hour later, throw up, then trip HEAVILY!
Must be a completely different substance to libery caps surely? It is such a different experience...
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ScenarioDr
on 2003-08-05 08:03 [#00809692]
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i've wanted to try that since i saw that sacred weeds program on channel 4 a couple of years back. looks pretty mental, judging by what the people on this prog did.
and mescalin too, though that sounds pretty hardcore. anyone tried it?
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2003-08-05 09:36 [#00809833]
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Oh yeah! I saw that program. They did some crazy hallucinogens! I remember White lilly (I think), which hadn't been tried since ancient egyptian times...
Really interesting seeing these middle class, non-drug taking types taking large doses of psychedelic substances for the first time - I always though they needed some weed to smoke rather than being probed(!?) by scientists.
I've always found it a little sketchy just being around level-headed people when I'm tripping - Especially scientists taking my blood pressure and asking me what I'm seeing!
Great show though.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-05 09:36 [#00809834]
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was hoping this was about mush records
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ScenarioDr
on 2003-08-05 09:45 [#00809865]
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yeah, the worst thing you can have when you are tripping is a straight person asking you if you are ok etc. send you sideways straight away.
that fly agaric looked pretty intense. i remember this one guy sitting up in a tree talking all kinds of nonsense. and another saying he could "see" the music coming from the speakers of this stereo they had. crazy stuff.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-05 10:27 [#00809931]
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the fly agaric can be lethal if prepared incorrectly. not to be messed with. this is no party drug (psilocybe shrooms arent party drugs either).
look up info on this mushroom on erowid and the shroomery.
dont let some TV documentary inspire you to do stuff you'll regret for the rest of your life. why not just go smoke some datura plants as well?
i'm not messing with mescaline either. i do have a san pedro cactus growing, so maybe in 10 years or so i can try it, but i'm definitely not ready for that yet.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-05 10:30 [#00809935]
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sorry to be so serious on the subject, but i've just seen too many people do stupid things. on the shroomery board, almost every day you see people write up topics like:
"i just ate this mushroom i found in my backyard, it was black and not too big, tasted funny' AM I GOING TO BE OK?"
the way i see it, hallucinogens are to be treated with respect, and that doesnt mean that mushroom trips cant be recreational, but at least do your research on the subject. it could save you a lot of trouble.
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ScenarioDr
on 2003-08-05 10:33 [#00809941]
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oh yeah, i know all the dangers with these things. i've had some bad experiences on acid aswell so i dont take these things lightly, im just kind of intrigued by them, you know what i mean?
cheers for the advice though.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-08-05 10:53 [#00809971]
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make tea, just dont get the water boiling hot. the effects hit you within 15 minutes. but it's true they don't last as long, to prolong it, take vitimin C and drink more tea.
i've had bad experiences when mixing weed with shrooms or LSD. i don't recommend it untill you have some experience with the shrooms by themselves.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-08-05 10:54 [#00809973]
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oh and, always trip with people you trust.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-08-05 10:57 [#00809984]
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I've not tried real mescalin, only bromo-mescalin which is a synthetic mescalin that comes in these red pills. You swallow them crush the pills up and snort them, which works the best. When you snort them though, it is extremely painful. It feals like someone punched you in the face. but you start hallucinating within a couple minutes with very little head trip.
people have likened it to 'being kicked in the face by the psychadellic horse.'
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-08-05 10:58 [#00809987]
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swallow them or crush them up.. sorry typo
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wilcoooo
from Sydney (Belgium) on 2003-08-05 11:19 [#00810039]
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-various strains have different effects and some give more
visuals than others.(fact: active substances: psilocin, psilocybin, therefore hallucinogenic mushrooms are often called psilocybes)
just personal experiences of me and others i know, and not every shroom is the same.
i've had a more intense trip with 1 portion of hawaian shrooms then 2 portions of mexican.
-eat sugar to increase the trip (this is the stupidest thing
you could do, because it will actually decrease the intensity. if you feel like you're going into a bad trip, drink fruit juice with sugar)
FRUIT JUICE, because of the vitamins. SUGAR, i also thought that it wore the effect off, but i had (recent) experiences and the opposite was the case.
(maybe my body doesn't works as it has to, but it's fine with me)
-you can make tea with fresh shrooms. sure, i'll bet you can
make regular tea with fresh apples too then. a shroom consists of over 90% of water)
it works fine and smartshops even recommend to use wet shrooms for tea. (btw you still have to eat the leftovers for maximum effect.)
to mask the awful taste, you can use honey, mixed with cocoa
powder. chocolate is said to have a positive effect, as well as vitamin C.
so you think you get vitamin tablets from smartshops to mask the taste? (:|
alcohol decreases the effect. (i don't think you're in the mood to get drunk though)
-nexus: please share your experience :)
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wilcoooo
from Sydney (Belgium) on 2003-08-05 11:28 [#00810061]
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the way i see it, hallucinogens are to be treated with respect
true, it can really fuck up your mind, seen people go completly nuts and now living in a mental institution.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-05 11:31 [#00810068]
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i can just picture you or anyone else for that matter squeezing 3 or 4 fullsized shrooms in a cup and pouring hot water over them. fresh mushrooms are for eating. i dont know what you're on about. why do you think teabags are filled with dry matter? they even sold pre-made shroom teabags when that wasnt illegal yet.
as for various experiences with different strains: it all depends on your mood, set and setting, how much you ate (other food that day), how long its been since your last trip etc..
i got vit. C tablets from the smartshop once and they said 'take these if you're not feeling well'. i dont know if they thought it would end the trip or not, but nobody really knows if it has any effect at all. do a search on the shroomery for 'vitamin C'. at least it cant do any harm. by the way, i wasnt implying that vitamin C does anything to mask the taste.
i also got a 'dipsauce' once that consisted of honey and cocoa, and i'm pretty sure about chocolate intensifying the effects.
also, a single beer wont matter a whole lot, just as one small joint wont matter that much. it all depends on too many things.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-05 11:35 [#00810075]
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vitamin C works against a 'bad trip' on weed, just like sugar water.
wouldn't say it'd work for mushrooms though..
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-05 11:37 [#00810085]
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Read this
it's in Dutch, its the site of the Dutch Trimbos Institute - the experts on druguse.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-08-05 12:02 [#00810136]
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teabags are full of dry matter to preserve the tea.
i assure you, making tea with wet shrooms works. that's practically the only way i've ever done it. what do you think happens to dry shrooms when you add hot water? they rehydrate.
tea recipie
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-05 12:03 [#00810143]
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true.
you can make tea with fresh tea leaves too.
to dry them is for convenience.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-08-05 17:07 [#00810569]
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i don't understand why you would make a tea. why not just eat them? if you don't want to chew them up, grind or mash them up first. you're going to eat the pulp from the tea anyway. i'm sure the tea doesn't taste any better than the mushrooms.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-08-05 17:12 [#00810575]
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tea covers the awful taste of mushrooms and tea makes the effects hit you faster. if you want to eat the shrooms anyway, tea makes them slippery so they are easily swallowed without lingering in your mouth.
some people like the taste of the shrooms but it makes me want to puke.
thats why i prefer tea anyway. though i haven't shroomed in years.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-05 17:18 [#00810579]
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mushrooms are for poofs, take some acid muthafucka
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-08-05 17:19 [#00810580]
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nitrous is another "escape hatch" for an oncoming bad trip.
it has saved my ass several times. soon as i feel the animal climbing on, huff a couple whipits, laugh myself silly and everything is ok after that.
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-05 17:24 [#00810589]
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every time i see this topic title i think its about mushrooms
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-05 17:25 [#00810591]
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it.... is.. about mushrooms...
i was obviously very confused
mushrooms are nice
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2003-08-05 19:08 [#00810755]
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Any of you had any experience with those f*in crazy microdots I was on about the other day?
Look like tiny bits of lighter flint - Sometimes black, silver or gold...
Basically, tore apart my reality for a good solid 24 hours - Made even the most intense acid/mushroom+e+K experience seem like a quiet night out with my nan.
I still fear it'll come back to haunt me actually! Do get the occasional jilt - The occasional feeling like my reality's just about to fall apart! Prolly leaving me a wabbling heap on the floor! Most amazing experience I've ever known though...
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-08-05 21:53 [#00810982]
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well - its decided - this friday i am going out to sit on the side of a grassy hill and shroom with some friends :)
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