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         |  big
             from lsg on 2003-08-03 06:36 [#00806375] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | my bands bassplayer now receives a artists payment from the government (whats the normal word for that) of somewhat like
 400 euro a month, thats like the minimum unemployment
 amount. he has to therefor make a minimum amount of money a
 year with artistic activities. he plays in a few bands and
 teaches guitar.
 
 
 
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         |  BlatantEcho
             from All over (United States) on 2003-08-03 08:39 [#00806439] Points: 7210 Status: Lurker
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 | Holy Shit! 
 *packs up bags and heads for the Neatherlands*
 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2003-08-03 08:40 [#00806443] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker
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 | Well I'm a, um, a performance artist; I'm working on documenting my ten year work that I call  "farting around on
 a computer", yeah, that's it, that's the ticket.
 
 And I need funding!
 
 
 
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         |  surrounded
             from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-08-03 08:44 [#00806452] Points: 3787 Status: Regular
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 | Yeah, i wanted to apply for something like that too (for my painting-activities, i don't play an instrument). But i made
 slightly too much money with my mailman-job. And i don't
 wanna quit that either :-p
 
 I can always apply for the funding later if i really need
 it. Or you can also get funding for specific projects, like
 a book or something... maybe i'll do something like that
 later on :-)
 
 Was it hard for your friend to get the funding? Or did he
 just have to fill out the form and that was it?
 
 
 
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2003-08-03 08:51 [#00806468] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | yeah, it's good, he wasnt any good at 'normal' jobs anyway. 
 
 there's always discussion on these funding things, because
 people get, of course, get kicked out of it eventually, like
 big writers and stuff. my solution would be that anyone
 could only get it for 5 years or so, and if you havent made
 it then, too bad. of course there isnt any making it in
 poetry and such, but then you've had at least had five
 years... ah well it's a crap idea. anyway i wouldnt want to
 have to play guitar all day. i'd end up paying my internet
 activities with it ;-)
 
 
 
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2003-08-03 09:01 [#00806483] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | yeah you do that surrounded, prolly my luminous idea is somewhat how it works, and who would really wants always be
 on that wellfare for always anyway?
 i dont believe it was that hard, apparantly you cant make to
 much money allready as you said: i didnt know that was with
 other jobs as well. on the other hand he has to make money
 in the future with the specific art (playing in bands) he
 does. he had to fill in what the biggest five concerts in
 the last two years were and what in the future years. prolly
 a nice story too. you prolly have to be a bit smart at it:
 his gf got it once so she prolly knew how. but it shouldnt
 be to hard figuring out yourself that you shouldnt write
 stuff like you want to use the money to set up a project to
 get as many groupies and get as much free beer as possible.
 
 
 
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         |  surrounded
             from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-08-03 09:11 [#00806493] Points: 3787 Status: Regular
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 | lol yeah ;-) I read the form. In my case i had to tell exactly what i
 wanted to do with the money, i had to make a photocopy of my
 artschool-diploma etc.
 
 But the thing is if i would have applied i would have also
 had to send them photos of my most recent work, and they
 were actually going to judge the quality of the work to see
 if i'd be worthy of funding.
 
 It doesn't sound like your friend had to go through anything
 like that, send a recording of his bassplaying or
 something.
 
 I understand all the criticism on the funding-system. But i
 think essentially it's a good idea. It gives artist the
 possibility to fully focus on their art. And the funding
 lasts for something like 4 years... and after that period
 you should be able to support yourself through the art...
 and if you still haven't earned any money after those 4
 years... it's probably never going to happen anyway. So
 you'd have to find some other career.
 
 
 
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         |  nanotech
             from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2003-08-03 09:32 [#00806524] Points: 3761 Status: Addict
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 | AIDS is gov. funded 
 
 
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2003-08-03 09:34 [#00806529] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | he probably had to somehow show his skills, he problably sent some cd's of the bands, maybe they thought him
 skillfull enough because he teaches
 art is more institutionalized with the art school paper you
 have to have, i think thats why my brother in law got
 rejected for the fund: didnt do that.
 what kind of art do you do?
 
 
 
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2003-08-03 09:36 [#00806533] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | he probably had to somehow show his skills, he problably sent some cd's of the bands, maybe they thought him
 skillfull enough because he teaches
 art is more institutionalized with the art school paper you
 have to have, i think thats why my brother in law got
 rejected for the fund: didnt do that. my bassplayer friend
 certainly never did ever receive any higher music learning,
 he is very talented, but i doubt that had much to do with
 anything.
 anyways what kind of art do you do?
 
 
 
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2003-08-03 09:37 [#00806535] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | whoops, its the second one yeah the government is up for a lot of thing apparantly nano
 
 
 
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