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         |  FLUX
             on 2003-08-03 00:51 [#00806263] Points: 419 Status: Addict
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 | Due to the recent ridiculous and childish behaviour found in various topics, Im considering shutting down the
 messageboard until the rest of Xltronic is finished. Do you
 support the idea?
 
 How many adults here are becoming sick and tired of being
 talked down to by the management?
 
 I am.
 
 Why are we coming here? To be insulted and abused, for no
 good reason?
 
 Shut it down, I say.
 
 
 
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         |  Jedi Chris
             on 2003-08-03 01:38 [#00806266] Points: 11496 Status: Lurker | Followup to FLUX: #00806263
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 | Way to get yourself banned, for 'dissing' the management! 
 Phob is in charge, if you don't like his rules, then its
 tough - leave.
 
 
 
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         |  Q4Z2X
             on 2003-08-03 01:42 [#00806268] Points: 5264 Status: Lurker | Followup to FLUX: #00806263
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 | who says that this was directed to you? if webmasters/mods don't like something about the message
 board, which they pay for, because of what certain people
 are contributing, then they have complete right to talk down
 about it..
 i really do not agree with the idea that we are being
 insulted or abused here, the people who are doing that are
 the flaming/insulting people that caused this whole problem
 to start, the people who this message was directed to.
 
 
 
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         |  Q4Z2X
             on 2003-08-03 01:43 [#00806270] Points: 5264 Status: Lurker | Followup to Q4Z2X: #00806268
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 | or the message on the poll, that is 
 
 
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         |  weatheredstoner
             from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-08-03 01:50 [#00806271] Points: 12585 Status: Lurker
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 | I agree with Q4Z2X, and I'd like to add that the rest of us shouldn't be punished because few morons cant stop mouthing
 off at other people. Where's the temp ban when you need one?
 
 
 
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         |  disasemble
             from United States on 2003-08-03 01:58 [#00806278] Points: 1448 Status: Regular
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 | maybe i dont frequent the message board enough, but i honestly havent seen a lot of people "mouthing off at other
 people" for the sake of just that.
 
 just a few at times, but what do you expect, you know? its a
 message board and things like that will happen.  most of the
 time the arguments that arise just come from peoples
 opinions. so i dont think theres anything wrong there.
 
 dont know i guess. as i said, i dont frequent here as much
 as some others do so maybe im missing something. but from
 where i stand its really not that bad.
 
 
 
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         |  mappatazee
             from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-08-03 02:01 [#00806279] Points: 14302 Status: Lurker
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 | I don't see why this should
 merit a whole
 new thread
 when there is already
 one
 called "Current Poll..."
 
 
 
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         |  Q4Z2X
             on 2003-08-03 02:12 [#00806280] Points: 5264 Status: Lurker | Followup to disasemble: #00806278
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 | . i really don't think this message on the poll was really directed to the purveyors of occasional arguing, or
 disagreements in opinions, etc.. it's really most likely
 about the frequent name-calling, insulting, scapegoating,
 and just the general meanness/rudeness that occurs here
 because of some people.. i'm not going to name names..
 but what bothers me even more, is, it seems like at the
 moment that someone shows any sign of being one of these
 people who cause trouble, or are unliked for any reason by
 the majority here, many more people swoop down suddenly like
 vultures to insult them viciously and unnecessarily for
 their supposed wrong-doings.. it’s really hypocritical..
 just leave the rule enforcing to the admin,  let them talk
 to whomever personally when they are on thin ice, instead of
 having you sink to their level and insult them back..
 
 
 
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         |  disasemble
             from United States on 2003-08-03 02:47 [#00806289] Points: 1448 Status: Regular | Followup to Q4Z2X: #00806280
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 | i agree there totally. i thought it was completely uncessary when people did that sort of thing that you explained about
 
 all in all, it still seems to me that this is more so an
 isolated problem. though, im not phobiazero so his
 annoyances are probably a lot differnet than mine
 
 ::shrugs::
 
 
 
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         |  Cfern
             from Sacto (United States) on 2003-08-03 03:59 [#00806313] Points: 1384 Status: Lurker
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 | i don't think the board is really that bad but then again i don't spend that much time here.,,
 
 
 
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         |  Anus_Presley
             on 2003-08-03 04:04 [#00806315] Points: 23472 Status: Lurker
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 | *rrolleyes* 
 
 
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         |  xceque
             on 2003-08-03 04:20 [#00806319] Points: 5888 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | How exactly are you being "talked down to by the management"? The troll-quotient of the board has been
 steadily growing over the last 6 months until it's getting
 to a point where it's hard to tell good-natured banter on
 random topics (which should be allowed) from pointless posts
 or flames (which are not).
 
 Personally I vote that the board stays up, the positive
 community aspect of it outweighs the downside of trolls and
 flames. Because the increase in crap posts has been gradual
 it's difficult to moderate: drawing a line between shit and
 acceptable is not easy and a gradual pushing of that line
 makes it harder, but eventually (like now) you get to a
 point where you realise you're fed up of it.
 
 Like a frog in gradually boiling water can't tell that it's
 being boiled.
 
 I think that if the board stays up (and that's Phobs
 descision) there'll be a crackdown in tolerance.
 
 So if you feel like you are being talked down to, maybe you
 should think about growing up.
 
 
 
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         |  nobsmuggler
             from silly mid-off on 2003-08-03 04:24 [#00806320] Points: 6265 Status: Addict | Followup to xceque: #00806319
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 | i think pointless posts are ok they have given me quite a few chuckles in my time on here but the flaming i totally
 agree with it has no place on any board
 
 
 
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         |  TonyFish
             from the realm of our dreams on 2003-08-03 05:10 [#00806330] Points: 3349 Status: Lurker
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 | There seem to be a vast number of threads about how pointless and childish the threads here are becoming. Maybe
 even more than there were childish threads in the first
 place...
 
 
 
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         |  TonyFish
             from the realm of our dreams on 2003-08-03 05:13 [#00806331] Points: 3349 Status: Lurker
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 | That sounds like a quote from Dark City. "Shut it down! Shut it down forever!" :)
 
 
 
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         |  Dolleater
             from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-08-03 05:13 [#00806332] Points: 4819 Status: Addict
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 | We cant get rid of pointless posts!  We love Anus_Presley! 
 
 
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         |  nobsmuggler
             from silly mid-off on 2003-08-03 05:14 [#00806333] Points: 6265 Status: Addict | Followup to Dolleater: #00806332
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 | hehe 
 
 
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         |  hyakusen
             from 8=============> on 2003-08-03 05:20 [#00806334] Points: 7021 Status: Addict
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 | thanks god i wasn/t here for last 2 months , so nobody can say that i#m making usefull posts here.....
 heh
 
 
 
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         |  FLUX
             on 2003-08-03 06:38 [#00806377] Points: 419 Status: Addict | Followup to Anus_Presley: #00806315
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 | this schick is getting tiresome...grow up and learn to spell 
 
 
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         |  FLUX
             on 2003-08-03 06:39 [#00806378] Points: 419 Status: Addict | Followup to Jedi Chris: #00806266
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 | This is not about the rules, this is about constant reframing and reevaluation of what will and will not be
 tolerated on this board.
 
 
 
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         |  Jedi Chris
             on 2003-08-03 07:20 [#00806387] Points: 11496 Status: Lurker | Followup to FLUX: #00806378
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 | Nevertheless they are Phob's rules and we need to abide by them. Quite simple really.
 
 
 
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         |  FLUX
             on 2003-08-03 07:26 [#00806390] Points: 419 Status: Addict | Followup to Jedi Chris: #00806387
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 | {sigh) No I have no problem with the existing rules.  Just with
 rules being pulled out of thin air and being placed as
 gospel.
 
 Now you cant have an argument with another member?
 
 What is an argument?
 Difference of opinion?
 
 How do you engage in an exchange of views if there is no
 differing opinions to begin with?
 
 
 
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         |  Jedi Chris
             on 2003-08-03 07:49 [#00806392] Points: 11496 Status: Lurker | Followup to FLUX: #00806390
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 | Don't sigh...you are the one moaning. 
 
 
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         |  FLUX
             on 2003-08-03 08:08 [#00806402] Points: 419 Status: Addict | Followup to Jedi Chris: #00806392
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 | What is this? An argument?
 
 
 
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         |  Jedi Chris
             on 2003-08-03 08:21 [#00806414] Points: 11496 Status: Lurker | Followup to FLUX: #00806402
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 | I have no arguments with you, I have no arguments about the way Phobiazero runs this place.....this is your topic after
 all.
 
 
 
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         |  FLUX
             on 2003-08-03 08:23 [#00806416] Points: 419 Status: Addict | Followup to Jedi Chris: #00806414
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 | Well then.  As long as we are both clear on this.  I wouldnt want to be responsible for getting both of us banned
 inadvertantly.
 
 
 
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         |  Jedi Chris
             on 2003-08-03 08:28 [#00806420] Points: 11496 Status: Lurker | Followup to FLUX: #00806416
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 | Good...then this matter is resolved. 
 
 
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         |  cuntychuck
             from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-08-03 08:40 [#00806441] Points: 8603 Status: Lurker | Followup to FLUX: #00806416
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 | i think you are the one acting childish. 
 
 
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         |  FLUX
             on 2003-08-03 08:41 [#00806447] Points: 419 Status: Addict | Followup to cuntychuck: #00806441
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 | Well your name says it all. 
 
 
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         |  cuntychuck
             from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-08-03 08:47 [#00806458] Points: 8603 Status: Lurker | Followup to FLUX: #00806447
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 | hey im just saying my opinion on this matter, i think there's absolutely no reason for shutting down the
 messageboard.. that would be a victory for people acting
 shit, or at least some of them. closing down is to give up a
 fight, which i think is rather untypical for the webmasters
 actions. i think communication should solve the problem.
 
 and hey, whats wrong with my name? you know, i've had it a
 loong time now, and i can't change it. there's no reason to
 go about the nick.
 
 
 
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         |  FLUX
             on 2003-08-03 08:55 [#00806473] Points: 419 Status: Addict | Followup to cuntychuck: #00806458
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 | The title of this thread was Ironic. 
 
 
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         |  OK
             on 2003-08-03 21:27 [#00807370] Points: 4791 Status: Lurker
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 | yeah shut it down who cares 
 
 
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         |  childkiller
             from santiago (Chile) on 2003-08-03 21:34 [#00807374] Points: 543 Status: Regular
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 | Due to the recent ridiculous and childish behaviour found in various topics, Im considering shutting down the
 messageboard until the rest of Xltronic is finished. Do you
 support the idea?
 
 i don`t know about this.  if it is meant to be shut down, it
 will be. (btw am i childish??????)
 ihihihiihihihiihihiihihiihihi
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-03 21:42 [#00807386] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to childkiller: #00807374
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 | well, maybe, if we all say "NO!" altogether now, he'll go "aaah, but I really want to shut it down" and we'll
 all scream "NOOOO!!!" again and he'll go "ah shit, I guess I
 can't then".
 
 that's it.
 
 
 
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         |  Crocomire
             from plante (United States) on 2003-08-03 22:18 [#00807418] Points: 2116 Status: Lurker
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 | mostly all this board is is fanboys trying to be as cool and
 smart and edgy as richard.
 
 
 
 
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         |  Duble0Syx
             from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-08-03 23:57 [#00807463] Points: 3436 Status: Lurker
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 | If I knew when the site would be finished I may be inclined to say shut it down.  it would filter out the assholes from
 the respectful regulars I think.  But since it could be a
 long time I would have to say keep it open or just do some
 mass banning.
 
 
 
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