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offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-08-01 08:20 [#00803843]
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So yeah

I loved the movie when I saw it in theaters, and so I got
the DVD which just came out on tuesday.

I love this movie. Seriously, its so great.

Its a fucking art film. And I dont care that george clooney
is in it. He does a damn fine job.

I love the music, and the images, and how every scene feels
utterly alone, and it moves so slow.

Its like, meditative.

Say what you will, but this has to go on my alltime
favorites list.



 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-08-01 08:22 [#00803846]
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neverr hearrd of it.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-08-01 08:26 [#00803853]
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its a love story/sci-fi movie.

There is a planet solaris, that we are studying. The space
station sends a request for Clooney ( a psychologist) to
come there, and help, because the crew is experiancing all
this weird stuff, and they refuse to leave.

So he goes, and there, he finds his dead wife.

Its an amazing story imo.

Ive read the book, which was great too. Still need to see
the original movie though.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-08-01 08:26 [#00803854]
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*finds his dead wife... ALIVE.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-08-01 08:30 [#00803865]
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humm i guess i could check it out then if the video shop has
it.


 

offline electro from detroit on 2003-08-01 08:38 [#00803886]
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i like george
he's tasty


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-08-01 09:13 [#00803962]
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O_o


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-08-01 09:14 [#00803966]
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i will not watch the remake, the original is one of the best
movies of all time, tarkovsky is definately in my top five
directors along with bergman, lynch and kurosawa and
sometimes fellini.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-08-01 09:14 [#00803968]
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yay for closedmindedness! :-D


 

online big from lsg on 2003-08-01 17:45 [#00804881]
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it's a fucking great movie
the ending is heavenly beautiful
and is nicely counterpointed by the eeryness of the first
part of the film
best film in years (since american beauty)


 

offline kochlear from aud-stim.com on 2003-08-01 18:43 [#00804932]
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i work at blockbuster and all the customers and other
employees hated solaris. i'm the only one in this town that
likes it.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-08-01 18:45 [#00804933]
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Tt's no T2 orr Aliens I don't imagine.


 

offline pyro5hit9rind from Pickering (Canada) on 2003-08-01 20:20 [#00804986]
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2001: a space oddesy

nuff said

or full metal jacket
kubrick's the man


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-01 20:22 [#00804990]
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stanley kubrick was indeed a man.


 

online big from lsg on 2003-08-01 20:46 [#00805032]
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it's a nice varation to 2001, more uplifting, understandable


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2003-08-01 23:33 [#00805142]
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loved the book.
loved the original.
still have to see the new one..



 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-08-01 23:53 [#00805153]
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don't miss out on the newer "solaris" out of respect for
tarkovsky. it's not a remake of his vision at all, it's a
very different film, and actually very good. as with most
films, expect that liberties will be taken with the material
(as liberties were taken by tarkovsky).

i'm not so sure that it's more understandable, though...i
think that's why so many people hated it (it was a huge
commercial failure), because at the end they are left asking
"wtf?"

the soundtrack was perfect for the film, also.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-08-02 02:05 [#00805171]
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i fucking love the music in this movie. meditative is
right.
read the book, its equally good.


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2003-08-02 17:24 [#00805920]
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hmm i havent heard the soundtrack yet..

though, while reading the book, and watching tarkovsky's
version, i imagined stars of the lid as being the perfect
soundtrack.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-08-02 20:24 [#00806121]
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I still haven't even watched it (new or old), but I'm going
to make a point to rent the Clooney one next week... and
maybe the old one if I'm lucky enough to find it. I love
what the premise sounds like, reminds me of the Farplane
from Final Fantasy 10.

I guess I'll download the soundtrack right now, shouldn't
put it off any longer.


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-08-03 08:41 [#00806446]
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i wasnt being entirely serious when i said i wouldnt see it,
i just wanted to say how amazing the original is(the music
is amazing in the original too). I will eventually make
myself see the newer one just to see soderbergh's take on
it.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-03 10:18 [#00806561]
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just bought the Tarkovsky version on dvd.

that was quite expensive!!

and I have never seen it before! but I always wanted to, so
this thread reminded me.

(hopefully) yay for me.


 

offline danbrusca from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-03 15:26 [#00806983]
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This is one of my all-time top 10 movies, pure art. I even
bought the soundtrack :P

If recommending it to other people it's probably best now to
include the term 'sci-fi' in any description though, they'll
only get the wrong idea and whine.


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2003-08-04 01:11 [#00807500]
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ok, good tip, i'll watch it soon ;)


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-08-04 11:54 [#00808419]
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solaris isnt sci fi at all, neither is 2001, at least i dont
consider them in that category at all, they involve space so
theyre sci fi, is that the reasoning?


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-08-04 12:13 [#00808471]
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true, they are more metaphysical meditations that use the
context of a technologically advanced future (with the
associated symbolism). i suppose it depends on what you
expect from "science fiction"; for some people, that means
action-adventure set in a technologically advanced future.

with the soderberg version, i think many people were led to
believe that the film would be an action-adventure/romance
set in a technologically advanced future, which would
explain the confusion and annoyance with which many viewers
responded...


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-08-04 13:05 [#00808576]
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it's a load of pretentious wank. Invasion of the body
snatchers meets 2001 with none of their beauty. George
Clooney is complete toss as usual and the bint that plays
his dead wife is fucking hopeless. the plot is none
existence, the supposed "spirtuality" of the movie is
hackneyed and cliched, the ending predictable. i don't
recommend it

bill_hicks rating : 1


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-08-04 13:12 [#00808588]
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bill, you said the "spirituality" of the film is hackneyed
and clichéd; i was wondering what other films share this
hackneyed and clichéd "spirituality."

if you thought the plot was non-existent, i can hardly
imagine how you made sense of the ending at all, much less
found it predictable.

true, though, most people will not like this film.


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-08-04 13:21 [#00808611]
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what do you mean most of the people won't like this film.
You arrogant git. Is it too intelligent for the great
unwashed, eh? I saw the film, got it and still thought it
was shite. Oh, but you understood the film on a much higher
level than every one else, didn't you? Aren't you great.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-08-04 13:25 [#00808622]
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people get different things out of stuff.

So, arnt you saying youre better then all of us, who liked
it? Cause you saw past the BS?



 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-08-04 13:26 [#00808625]
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she was my little sister.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-08-04 13:27 [#00808630]
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huh?


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-08-04 13:28 [#00808632]
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yikes, what a fragile ego, bill! i was being honest and
straightforward. note i didn't offer specific reasons for
that statement; this film was widely disliked, that's all.


you spend all of your energy getting your back up instead of
responding to a sincere question.
perhaps you're not used to agreeing to disagree.



 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-04 13:30 [#00808636]
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the original russian sci fi is much better than the remake -
i wish the yanks would stop trying to remake amazing films -
they want to remake the wicker man - which is sacrilige in
my mind -
here is a synopsis of the og film
http://www.eofftv.com/s/solyaris_main.htm


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-08-04 13:30 [#00808638]
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well, I loved the remake... so I guess I need to see the
original, if its that good!


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-08-04 13:31 [#00808642]
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incidentally, i'm still interested in hearing your thoughts
on my question, if your indignation has begun to evaporate.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-08-04 13:32 [#00808644]
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those last two comments were addressed to bill, the follow
up feature doesn't seem to work for me.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-08-04 13:40 [#00808656]
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i guess bill is now in another thread, looking for a reason
to bitch slap some sense into someone!

: )


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-08-04 13:41 [#00808658]
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Maybe you arre using it wrrong.

Also, why did you have to add that extrra jibe to
bill_hicks?


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-08-04 13:43 [#00808662]
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are you on a Mac?

on OS9? I found I couldnt use the reply function, when under
os9


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-08-04 13:44 [#00808663]
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or it was all a series of coincidences...

but when I went to OSX, it worked...


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-08-04 13:51 [#00808679]
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anus, how could i be using it wrong? it's pretty simple.
anyway, yes i'm on a mac and it's os9.

anus, you have a pretty sharp sense of humor. i really
wanted to hear what bill thought, and instead i got a blast
of pitiful, angry "you think you're better than me!" i
didn't take it personally, but chose to respond with playful
humor when bill did not respond.

forgive me if i was out of line.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-08-04 13:53 [#00808683]
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Narr you arre not rreally out of line, it's just with
'flaming' being the big MB issue at the moment it is
sometimes betterr to bite yourr tongue even if you arre in
the rright.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-08-04 14:00 [#00808695]
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that's what the smiley face is for! the balm to soothe each
mb abrasion.



 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-08-04 14:02 [#00808700]
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i saw the original and was bored to tears by it.
consequently i have no desire to watch the remake.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-08-21 13:39 [#00831538]
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Does anyone have an English subtitled (or dubbed) version of
Alex Tarknovsky's Solaris in .avi? I downloaded it, but it
was in Russian... and I'm not a very good Russian.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-08-21 14:24 [#00831617]
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i knew relatively little about the movie except that i had
heard it was good. i did not expect an action film, and a
slow pace in a film does not turn me off.

however this film seemed slow for no real apparant reason.
imo the director did a poor job of setting up why the pacing
was set the way it was. ok, i'm aware that space is vast and
lonely, kubrick did a masterful job showing this in 2001,
but in solaris the actual vastness of space was skipped over
with clooney hearing that he was asked to go to the station,
then spontaneously appearing.

then once he arrived at the station and i expected the
character development to begin... it didn't. it sortof just
scooted along with glancing shallow looks into the
characters that never really gave them any depth. the
result: i never really became interested in the the
characters or cared what happend to them.

yes, there was an errie detachment in the two left on the
ship which almost became interesting, but since it was never
really explored it also didn't. the one relationship which
was mildly engaging was the one between clooney and his
first visitor. that was the only time during the film that i
identified with the character's emotions, but it was short
lived.

this director was obviously trying to walk the thin line
between remaining tantalizingly vague, and spoonfeeding the
plot to the audience. i just think he failed to create an
interesting film.

but, this of course is my opinion. maybe if i'd read the
book, or knew more about the story i would've gotten more
out of it.


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-08-21 19:54 [#00831975]
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andrei tarkovsky you mean ophecks...

i kind of want to see it even more now since so many people
hate it\love the remake. the original is an essential
moving and beautiful film just like all of his other
masterpieces.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-21 22:27 [#00832112]
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it freaked me out. the original I mean.

loved it. :)


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-08-21 23:41 [#00832161]
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Whatever, I couldn't remember, why don't you just SUE MY
DAMN PANTS OFF?!?!?!11ARgjlkajsdg

Anyway, nobody has it? I'm getting the 2002 version right
now, but I can't find an English original... I watched bits
and pieces, the the visuals really appealed to me...



 


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