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         |  ziggomatic
             from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-07-31 22:24 [#00803176] Points: 2523 Status: Lurker
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 | these guys are really talented, i love their sound. 
 if you have anything bad to say, please just ignore this
 thread, i'm tired of seeing that shit...
 but anyway,
 if you do dig 'em.....what's your favorite album/song of all
 time??
 
 mine is Birthmark - Adrenaline
 
 the new album kicks....especially Needles + Pins!
 
 
 
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         |  corticalstim
             from Canada on 2003-07-31 22:30 [#00803182] Points: 3885 Status: Regular
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 | my neighbor was one of the guy's brother - i met them once - they are pretty good - my friend saw them in toronto on the
 summer sanitarium tour and loved em :)
 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-31 22:32 [#00803184] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker
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 | love the deftones. 
 my fave album is "Around the fur" ... but i haven't picked
 up the new one yet.
 
 fave song has to be MX - track 10 on around the fur. i've
 got a couple of deftones bootlegs that have a lot of rare
 b-sides and rarities. one is a great live cover of weezer's
 "say it ain't so." from what i hear, chino moreno worships
 pj harvey and rivers cuomo.
 
 they also have some other covers - one of duran duran's "the
 chauffeur" and a song called "please please please let me
 get what i want." don't know who that's by.
 
 
 
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         |  afxNUMB
             from So.Flo on 2003-07-31 22:33 [#00803185] Points: 7099 Status: Regular
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 | Hell yeah Deftones have been around for a while and have never failed to have a bad album.
 
 Theres one song where he yells awesome, but I dont know the
 name grrr...I cant even find it by looking at the lyrics
 
 
 
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         |  afxNUMB
             from So.Flo on 2003-07-31 22:34 [#00803188] Points: 7099 Status: Regular | Followup to afxNUMB: #00803185
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 | I'm talking about the album "deftones" their last one 
 Around the fur kicks ass! whenever I do hear deftones I feel
 like going into a mosh pit and going crazy!
 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-31 22:44 [#00803200] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker
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 | the things i like most about deftones are their overall more melancholy feel in contrast to the rage most harder rock
 acts have. i also love chino's lyrics - they're very
 poetic.
 
 afxNUMB - are you speaking of white pony? the best screamer
 songs on there are KOREA and ELITE
 
 
 
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         |  mc_303_beatz
             from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-07-31 22:46 [#00803203] Points: 3386 Status: Regular
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 | white pony is my fave. i love teenager 
 
 
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         |  Skink
             from A cesspool in eden on 2003-07-31 22:46 [#00803204] Points: 7483 Status: Lurker
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 | I think so of their stuff is really good. 
 I love passenger, that track is so beautiful.
 
 
 
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         |  mc_303_beatz
             from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-07-31 22:47 [#00803205] Points: 3386 Status: Regular | Followup to afxNUMB: #00803185
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 | is it "my own summer(shove it)" ? 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-31 22:49 [#00803208] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker
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 | i enjoyed white pony too... in fact, i think i'm going to listen to it right now....
 
 
 
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         |  mappatazee
             from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-07-31 22:51 [#00803210] Points: 14302 Status: Lurker
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 | good good
 
 
 
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         |  morguean
             from Calgary (Canada) on 2003-07-31 23:11 [#00803223] Points: 1328 Status: Regular
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 | my fav is either digital bath or knife prty 
 but i also love the slow song from their new album
 "anniversary of an uninteresting event"
 
 whatever happened to team sleep?
 they have pushed that album back so far
 
 
 
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         |  roygbivcore
             from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-31 23:21 [#00803226] Points: 22557 Status: Lurker
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 | i was hoping this was about the donnas 
 in which case i would like to go to a make out party with
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         |  afxNUMB
             from So.Flo on 2003-07-31 23:22 [#00803227] Points: 7099 Status: Regular
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 | I know the songs youre talking about but the one im referring to is in their new album...
 
 He screams something like whaaa whaaa at the end
 Damn, i heard it twice . remember!
 
 
 
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         |  steve
             from chicago on 2003-07-31 23:25 [#00803228] Points: 1156 Status: Lurker
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 | I can't stand them. 
 
 
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         |  Clic
             on 2003-07-31 23:36 [#00803230] Points: 5232 Status: Regular
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 | I like them quite a bit. Been listening for years. 
 
 
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         |  Duble0Syx
             from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-07-31 23:37 [#00803232] Points: 3436 Status: Lurker
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 | I thought they were talented until the last album came out. Then I realized chino is gay and untalented and allows
 himself to be controlled by the record company.
 
 
 
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         |  Q4Z2X
             on 2003-07-31 23:44 [#00803234] Points: 5264 Status: Lurker | Followup to Duble0Syx: #00803232
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 | especially with this newest album it shows, i think their albums have always gotten progressively worse in general,
 but all of the albums have enough really good songs to make
 it still worth the purchase..
 
 
 
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         |  mimi
             on 2003-08-01 00:25 [#00803264] Points: 5721 Status: Regular
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 | i think the white pony was their best, i thought the new one was balls, absolute crap......
 
 but you can't fuck with digital bath, or the single (change
 or whatever), OR the last track.  or the last track on the
 lim. eds.  which, by they way, looked cool as hell
 (especially when you compare them to...oh, i dunno, the new
 album!  which, allow me to point out has a skull and roses
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         |  ambsace
             from canaDUH. on 2003-08-01 00:28 [#00803269] Points: 6326 Status: Lurker
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 | all downhill after around the fur. 
 still good, don't get me wrong. just...not my thing.
 
 
 
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         |  mappatazee
             from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-08-01 00:31 [#00803274] Points: 14302 Status: Lurker
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 | yes tres fruité
 
 
 
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         |  Nexus 6
             from Netherlands, The on 2003-08-01 02:33 [#00803324] Points: 3221 Status: Lurker
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 | they're alright, but I never really dug any of their albums besides white pony. Haven't listened to them since my
 nu-metal times though.
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-01 03:05 [#00803351] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to Nexus 6: #00803324
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 | ha ha 
 "Fifth Element" Gary..
 
 such a shit film, but Gary wins with that haircut..
 
 
 
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         |  Nexus 6
             from Netherlands, The on 2003-08-01 03:17 [#00803364] Points: 3221 Status: Lurker | Followup to qrter: #00803351
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 | yeah, the story's a bit cheesy but I like the costumes. Plus the fact that Chris and Gary have awesome parts.
 
 
 
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         |  ziggomatic
             from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-08-02 15:04 [#00805728] Points: 2523 Status: Lurker | Followup to afxNUMB: #00803227
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 | you are probably talking about Hexagram....maybe When Girls Telephone Boys.....??
 "AND THE CROWD GOES WILD"!!!!
 
 The Deftones rock, they are a big influence in the music I
 make.
 
 Sure, maybe the deftones have sold out a little to the
 record companies......but their music is still rockin'
 badass, and I'm not really worried about
 marketing/videos/whatever in the music business.....it's all
 the SOUND....
 
 and Chino is definitely NOT gay (he's married), and he is
 VERY talented,
 Can you sing that high and go straight into the best scream
 in hard rock today??....no
 
 i love Chino's screams, and his mic-cupping techniques, I'm
 learning to master them.
 
 Chi Cheng the bass player is so sick as well........he is
 writing a "Biography" sort of thing while he's on tour and
 stuff.....but he'll never release it.....he's just that
 wicked.....
 
 anyway.......yeah!
 and this isn't a Fifth Element thread, but it could be!
 
 (maybe I should have split this post up into like 4
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         |  Jarworski
             from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-02 15:07 [#00805731] Points: 10836 Status: Lurker
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 | Adrenaline - Best Around The Fur - Great
 White Pony - Average
 Deftones - Utter, utter shit
 
 
 
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2003-08-02 18:16 [#00806007] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | passenger has james maynard keenan from tool singing. i like everything alot. cant listen to the last one, so i
 dont really know how shite it is. but it sounds like a
 watered down white pony and therefor sucks: i liked the way
 they were going with white pony, only they should have kept
 going. i like no8 of it though, the one that's on the matrix
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2003-08-02 18:17 [#00806010] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | tool and deftones (up to the last one) are the only metalbands that matter to me. not counting meshuggah.
 i play in a metal band myself btw.
 
 
 
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         |  Jarworski
             from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-02 18:22 [#00806014] Points: 10836 Status: Lurker | Followup to big: #00806010
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 | Meshuggah are great, been following them for a long time (Saw them supporting Machine Head in 95) but Tool and
 Deftones must be the two most overrated bands in the genre.
 Well both of them used to be great but they've just
 completely dropped off in recent years, especially Deftones
 who've crapped all over the good work they've done in the
 past. Tool I think have nothing more to offer, they
 obviously peaked with Aenima.
 
 
 
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2003-08-02 18:31 [#00806017] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | i think white pony was somewhat draft-like, but somehow genius. i see how around the fur is less then adrenaline,
 less 'catchy' songs (the simplicity of the songs of those to
 albums make them great).
 i dont see why a lot of people think lateralis is that bad:
 i like 1, 8, 9, and 10 and 11 (? that india stuff, only the
 first too). meshuggah keep getting better at what they do,
 they're great.
 do you know the special defects album by frederick
 thornedahl btw? that's cool too: so death metal-jazz
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2003-08-02 18:32 [#00806020] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | what do you think is good metal then these days? 
 
 
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2003-08-02 18:33 [#00806024] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | my own summer is the best btw ziggo 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-06 08:23 [#00811617] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to Jarworski: #00805731
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 | see a pattern there? typical elite fan attitude.. 
 
 
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         |  Jarworski
             from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-06 08:24 [#00811620] Points: 10836 Status: Lurker | Followup to titsworth: #00811617
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 | I know what I'm talking about. Just because everyone started frothing over them went they went all experimental doesn't
 mean I have to suck their dicks too. The new stuff blows,
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-06 08:34 [#00811639] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to Jarworski: #00811620
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 | i'm not saying it doesn't or that you don't have the right to your opinion, i'm just observing a standard pattern
 
 
 
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         |  Jarworski
             from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-06 08:39 [#00811648] Points: 10836 Status: Lurker | Followup to titsworth: #00811639
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 | Did I get too defensive? :D 
 Well I'm not sure... it's easy to say that every elite fan
 thinks the standard drops with each subsequent release, but
 it's   hardly something I'd wager money on. I can't think of
 another band I've heard every album by where I feel this way
 about the releases.... *thinks*... nope. Well, maybe Korn.
 And Limp Bizkit. Hmm. Now I see a pattern....
 
 
 
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         |  Spaced
             from Mars (United States) on 2003-08-06 09:01 [#00811704] Points: 447 Status: Regular
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 | I saw them on the White Pony tour...one helluva show. Every five minutes someone was getting carted off with a bloody
 face, and Chino kept doing backflips into the crowd.
 
 Favorite song: It's a tie between Birthmark or Mascara.
 
 
 
 
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