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         |  Key_Secret
             from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-07-31 13:07 [#00802595] Points: 9325 Status: Regular
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 | A gay friend once told me: 
 "In my experience (Breeder watching/hunting) its 99.9999%
 always the "I'm a tough guy and I can kick your ass" that
 gets the female."
 
 [in this quote, breeders = heterosexuals]
 
 This may also match your experiences; however it's not
 always the way it is, according to an article posted on
 http://www.reuters.com.
 
 Big Guys Don't Always Get the Girls
 
 Wed July 30, 2003 03:20 PM ET
 LONDON (Reuters) - Big, assertive guys don't always get the
 girls.
 
 In some species, such as coho salmon and quail, weedier,
 less aggressive males are the top choice of females, New
 Scientist magazine said Wednesday.
 
 "People just expect the dominant guy to win. But females
 learn through personal experience that these males can be
 hurtful," according to Alex Ophir, of Canada's McMaster
 University in Ontario.
 
 Ophir proved the point by observing Japanese quail. After
 female quail watched a fight between two males they were put
 in the same cage with the combatants. Virgin females
 preferred the winner but the females with some sexual
 experience tended to choose the loser.
 
 Female coho salmon are also more likely to mate with males
 known as jacks who stop growing earlier and are smaller than
 their competitors, said evolutionary biologist Steve Shuster
 of Northern Arizona University in Flagstaff.
 
 He suspects female salmon may be attracted to jacks because
 their early maturing could be a sign of quality and
 success.
 
 "The females may also prefer to avoid the physical abuse of
 mating with aggressive males," the magazine added.
 
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 http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=scienceNews...
 ---
 
 discuss: what are your experiences on the subject?
 
 
 
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         |  Anus_Presley
             on 2003-07-31 13:11 [#00802603] Points: 23472 Status: Lurker
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 | i'm not a coho salmon orr quail 
 
 
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         |  xceque
             on 2003-07-31 13:13 [#00802606] Points: 5888 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | I am a medium-sized non-muscular unagressive guy, and I have no girl.
 
 This, however, does not prove the theory correct. There may
 be other factors. Such as heightened interest in chocolate,
 or rice pudding, over girls.
 
 I am not a salmon.
 
 
 
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         |  afxNUMB
             from So.Flo on 2003-07-31 13:13 [#00802607] Points: 7099 Status: Regular
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 | Girl point of view: 
 I think women are nurturing so they would pick the  "loser"
 male. Because the "winner" male may be the dick.
 
 Personally(I was talking about this earlier with Dolleater)
 I prefer the male to be aggresive in bed,  and outside the
 bedroom a man who knows what he wants and goes ahead and
 does it without "babe, are you sure" bullshit...I personally
 can't go around with someone who doesnt know his ass from
 his elbow and walks around like a pussy--I want to feel like
 I'm proud to be walking with my boyfriend not someone
 walking with their head down.
 
 I guess its changed because women are becoming the dominant
 ones but a mans a man no matter what =)
 
 
 
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         |  LiberianGirl
             from United States on 2003-07-31 13:16 [#00802608] Points: 59 Status: Regular
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 | My bf is skinny but has a huge cock, so I'm happy. 
 luv ya hun
 
 --Mary
 
 
 
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         |  dariusgriffin
             from cool on 2003-07-31 13:16 [#00802611] Points: 12516 Status: Lurker | Followup to LiberianGirl: #00802608
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 | How romantic. 
 
 
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         |  promo
             from United Kingdom on 2003-07-31 13:17 [#00802612] Points: 4227 Status: Addict
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 | Being a weed and unsure of oneself is equally unnattractive for females. Forget aggression its more about confidence and
 the sense of ambition that women get from particular men
 that attracks them.
 
 
 
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         |  Anus_Presley
             on 2003-07-31 13:18 [#00802614] Points: 23472 Status: Lurker
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 | i'm not a weed and i'm prretty surre of myself, but i'm also not big and aggrressive.
 
 
 
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         |  Anus_Presley
             on 2003-07-31 13:19 [#00802615] Points: 23472 Status: Lurker
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 | i think im a good mix, and i'm not being big headed, coz my luck with the women is prretty bad.
 
 and i say prretty too much.
 
 
 
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         |  promo
             from United Kingdom on 2003-07-31 13:20 [#00802617] Points: 4227 Status: Addict
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 | Let me refine that the sense of knowing where you're going. 
 
 
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         |  xceque
             on 2003-07-31 13:20 [#00802618] Points: 5888 Status: Moderator | Followup to afxNUMB: #00802607 | Show recordbag
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 | A simplistic view, though one that is becoming more prevalent in women.
 Women seem to think they can dictate the terms of a
 relationship, as described: "I personally
 can't go around with someone who doesnt know his ass from
 his elbow and walks around like a pussy"
 
 This is all well and good, but all too often (and I'm not
 saying young afxNUMB is included in this) the woman will
 decide that she will have her way and never mind the guy, if
 he can't have things my way, he can find another girl. And
 men, being the pussies they are, acceed to this and become
 subservient. This is simply cos men often want the
 relationship more than the woman.
 
 I think this is why I have no woman. I won't give up
 all my own foibles for any woman. She'll take me as I
 am (with minor consessions on my part as well as hers) or
 she can bugger orf.
 
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         |  Key_Secret
             from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-07-31 13:21 [#00802620] Points: 9325 Status: Regular | Followup to Anus_Presley: #00802615
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 | you say the rright things. I partly agree with promo to.
 
 
 
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         |  plaidzebra
             from so long, xlt on 2003-07-31 13:21 [#00802621] Points: 5678 Status: Lurker
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 | my experience is that most women want a reasonably good looking guy with a decent personality.  you can fake either
 of these attributes with sufficient confidence, but
 generally not both at the same time.
 
 not getting enough action?  plaizebra's prescription for
 success is:
 
 lower your standards!
 
 delete your porn! it's sapping your motivation
 
 and get a nice haircut!
 
 
 
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         |  ambsace
             from canaDUH. on 2003-07-31 13:22 [#00802622] Points: 6326 Status: Lurker
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 | i'm content to being with me and me. 
 and we don't need anybody.
 
 
 
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         |  Key_Secret
             from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-07-31 13:22 [#00802623] Points: 9325 Status: Regular | Followup to xceque: #00802618
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 | nobody should give up anything when looking for love. that is not love. that is sacrifice.
 
 
 
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         |  plaidzebra
             from so long, xlt on 2003-07-31 13:25 [#00802625] Points: 5678 Status: Lurker
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 | key_secret, and yet the vast majority of romantic relationships are not built on unconditional love.  given
 this, you should expect, and embrace, some sacrifice.  an
 unwillingness to sacrifice is a relationship killer.
 
 
 
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         |  mc_303_beatz
             from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-07-31 13:25 [#00802626] Points: 3386 Status: Regular
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 | I have a girlfriend (albiet in america), I deleted all my porn, I cut my hair, my personality is pretty good and I
 look alright. Also I recently cut my hair, but I still feel
 like shit!!! Must be doin somethin wrong. I think its the
 girlfriend in america part. heh heh
 
 
 
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         |  plaidzebra
             from so long, xlt on 2003-07-31 13:26 [#00802627] Points: 5678 Status: Lurker
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 | mc 303, you see you cut your hair one too many times.  when it grows back, you'll feel better.
 
 
 
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         |  Anus_Presley
             on 2003-07-31 13:26 [#00802628] Points: 23472 Status: Lurker
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 | i need a good hairr cut. 
 
 
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         |  aquagak
             from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-07-31 13:27 [#00802630] Points: 4399 Status: Regular
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 | big tough guy are dumb and just have a head full of cum, which suggests why they cheat more that the normal guy
 
 
 
 
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         |  Key_Secret
             from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-07-31 13:28 [#00802631] Points: 9325 Status: Regular | Followup to mc_303_beatz: #00802626
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 | I think it's you deleting all your german porn. 
 
 
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         |  ambsace
             from canaDUH. on 2003-07-31 13:28 [#00802632] Points: 6326 Status: Lurker
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 | bah. when some day a decently attractive girl decides she'll have a scrawny, scruffy, and long-haired computer nerd
 hangin' around...i'll lock her up in my basement and keep
 her forever.
 
 
 
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         |  Key_Secret
             from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-07-31 13:29 [#00802633] Points: 9325 Status: Regular | Followup to plaidzebra: #00802625
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 | if you embrace the sacrifice, they are not sacrifices. I do not know the word for it,
 but if it feels like your sacrificing something - don't do
 it. and that's what I meant.
 
 
 
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         |  Key_Secret
             from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-07-31 13:29 [#00802634] Points: 9325 Status: Regular | Followup to ambsace: #00802632
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 | Keep her inside a sack. and don't overfeed her. 
 
 
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         |  plaidzebra
             from so long, xlt on 2003-07-31 13:30 [#00802635] Points: 5678 Status: Lurker
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 | having a girlfriend in another country or state is the worst.  i was in that situation in college, and walking
 around campus with beautiful women all around me was
 depressing.  so i guess i forgot the most important element
 of relationship success:
 
 location!
 
 
 
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         |  mc_303_beatz
             from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-07-31 13:30 [#00802636] Points: 3386 Status: Regular
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 | It is true though. It's always the shallow dickheads that get all the chicks. too many shallow folks in this world of
 ours. too much candy floss fluff bullshit personalities and
 social standards. too many expectations. We are an arrogant
 species. I'm kinda bewildered by the human race right now
 
 
 
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         |  Anus_Presley
             on 2003-07-31 13:30 [#00802637] Points: 23472 Status: Lurker
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 | don't get rrid of porrn, i did that with rreal tangible videos, what a mistake that was, when i came home alone i
 rreally missed them, and worrse of all one of them was
 amazing and i don't know what it was called. i'll neverr see
 that video again. just hide them.
 
 
 
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         |  aquagak
             from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-07-31 13:32 [#00802638] Points: 4399 Status: Regular
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 | who needs a woman when they've got a hand 
 
 
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         |  mc_303_beatz
             from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-07-31 13:32 [#00802639] Points: 3386 Status: Regular | Followup to Anus_Presley: #00802637
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 | yeah your probably right. I know i`ll regret. Good job I have Broadband. and now.... a wank.
 
 
 
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         |  plaidzebra
             from so long, xlt on 2003-07-31 13:32 [#00802640] Points: 5678 Status: Lurker
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 | key_secret, i understand now.  to deny oneself is to sacrifice, but to find the desire for self-change within a
 relationship is not sacrifice.
 
 
 
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         |  Key_Secret
             from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-07-31 13:33 [#00802641] Points: 9325 Status: Regular | Followup to Anus_Presley: #00802637
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 | haha... what was that amzing movie about? In what country was it made?
 
 
 
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         |  Anus_Presley
             on 2003-07-31 13:34 [#00802642] Points: 23472 Status: Lurker | Followup to Key_Secret: #00802641
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 | it was dubbed in frrench, so i don't know what language it was made in. damn it was fine. it was some hot rreporrterr
 going arround having sex.
 
 
 
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         |  Key_Secret
             from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-07-31 13:35 [#00802643] Points: 9325 Status: Regular | Followup to Anus_Presley: #00802642
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 | sounds cool... you sure it wasn't made in france? 
 
 
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         |  plaidzebra
             from so long, xlt on 2003-07-31 13:36 [#00802644] Points: 5678 Status: Lurker
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 | who needs an oven when they've got a butane lighter? 
 
 
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         |  Anus_Presley
             on 2003-07-31 13:36 [#00802645] Points: 23472 Status: Lurker | Followup to Key_Secret: #00802643
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 | it could have been, it was set indoorrs mainly apparrt frrom this bit on a carr.
 
 
 
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         |  plaidzebra
             from so long, xlt on 2003-07-31 13:37 [#00802647] Points: 5678 Status: Lurker
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 | key_secret, you porn hound! 
 : )
 
 
 
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         |  aquagak
             from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-07-31 13:37 [#00802648] Points: 4399 Status: Regular | Followup to plaidzebra: #00802644
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 | true plaidzebra, a hand has a 2d personality 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2003-07-31 13:38 [#00802649] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker
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         |  plaidzebra
             from so long, xlt on 2003-07-31 13:38 [#00802650] Points: 5678 Status: Lurker
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 | "people having sex?  sounds cool!" 
 
 
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         |  Key_Secret
             from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-07-31 13:38 [#00802651] Points: 9325 Status: Regular | Followup to plaidzebra: #00802647
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 | heh.. not really, I was 'amazed by' (well, I enjoyed discussing it anyway) porn when I was younger though...
 AP : You don't remember any of the cast?
 
 
 
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         |  Anus_Presley
             on 2003-07-31 13:39 [#00802652] Points: 23472 Status: Lurker | Followup to fleetmouse: #00802649
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 | legend 
 
 
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         |  Anus_Presley
             on 2003-07-31 13:39 [#00802653] Points: 23472 Status: Lurker | Followup to Key_Secret: #00802651
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 | do i hell. 
 
 
 
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         |  plaidzebra
             from so long, xlt on 2003-07-31 13:41 [#00802655] Points: 5678 Status: Lurker
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 | of course, a butane lighter can come in handy... 
 to light your cigarette when your cake is baked.
 
 
 
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         |  ambsace
             from canaDUH. on 2003-07-31 13:41 [#00802656] Points: 6326 Status: Lurker | Followup to fleetmouse: #00802649
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 | T H I E F ! 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2003-07-31 13:44 [#00802661] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to ambsace: #00802656
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 | Eh? You were using ol' Ron? I found him on the web and resized him myself ya know...
 
 
 
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         |  Anus_Presley
             on 2003-07-31 13:48 [#00802670] Points: 23472 Status: Lurker
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 | i had this grreat porrno starring Ron, it had his wife in it and he was a photogrrapherr.
 
 
 
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         |  ambsace
             from canaDUH. on 2003-07-31 13:49 [#00802671] Points: 6326 Status: Lurker | Followup to fleetmouse: #00802661
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 | lemme see if the cropping is the same. hah. i was using that same picture.
 
 
 
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         |  ambsace
             from canaDUH. on 2003-07-31 13:50 [#00802672] Points: 6326 Status: Lurker | Followup to ambsace: #00802671
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 | alright, alright. your head is bigger. 
 my mistake. forgive me.
 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2003-07-31 13:51 [#00802673] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to ambsace: #00802672
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 | alright, alright. your head is bigger. 
 naturally
 
 
 
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         |  Anus_Presley
             on 2003-07-31 13:52 [#00802674] Points: 23472 Status: Lurker
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 | http://www.k9care.com/fga/Ron_Jeremy1.jpg 
 
 
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