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Dude, your avatar SO rocks. |
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and so does yours |
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Let's all raise our milkshakes to the Coolest Man Alive <------------Mr. Christopher Walken |
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he was so cool in that fatboy slim video, wasn't he? And of course there was kangaroo jack and mouse hunt. What a cool guy. |
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haha. |
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He fuckin well was. That was actually the first time I heard a Fat Fuck Finn song all the way through because he was so fuckin cool in it. Mouse Hunt is a brilliant film. But your head too far up a certain nether portion of your anatomy to appreciate it. |
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I thought you would have retorted by saying something like that he also has been in brilliant films like deerhunter, dead zone and dogs of war. But instead, you surprise me and say that mouse hunt is a brilliant film. Interesting. |
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Mouse Hunt is a brilliant piece of film making. Dead Zone is rather tragic actually Cronenberg sullied his name adapting (choke) Stephen King. Deer Hunter is not really my cup of tea either. That film has aged badly, unlike say Apocalypse Now Redux, which is still fresh as a daisy. If you mentioned Abel Fereras's like King of New York or The Funeral to me I would have tipped my hat and bowed. But you my dear sir continue to disappoint me. I see flickers of potential that keep getting smothered by misplaced pretentions. But the point is, that Walkens exudes cool and charisma and commands attention inspite of his surrounding, be it a Fat Boy Slim video (Directed by Spike Jonze no less, or now you gonna tell me you have a problem with ole Spike) or Mouse Hunt or Kangaroo Jack or Deer Hunter. |
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Apocalypse now Redux. You must be fucking joking! All those extra bits of film should have been left on the cutting room floor. Especially the Benny Hill style chase scene when they're going surfing. What was copolla thinking of? Probably his mortgage or something. Anyway, redux ruined one of my favourite films ever. I never mentioned king of new york, which i admit is a good ( not great ) film and i have never seen the funeral. So fucking what? The deerhunter has dated badly? That is just a ridiculous statement. Dated in what way? I bet you've never even fucking seen it. Also you castigate the Dead zone because it was written by stephen king ( choke). I suppose you hate the shining, stand by me, shawshank redemption, misery, green mile etc. on the same premise? The dead zone is a wonderful film that i keep coming back to time and time again.As for fucking mouse hunt - brilliant piece of film-making? I bet you just love those fucking honda adverts, dont you? My point is this - Christopher Walken WAS cool. Now he's just a whore selling his ass for a few bucks. |
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APocalypse now has now become, long, languid, dreamy and sublime with the new EDIT, a different level of Cinema which I doubt you could appreciate. I have seen Deer Hunter several times. But the last time I saw it, it was disappointing, shattered my perfect illusions. Most of it is inchoerent. The Wedding goes on for far too long. The Characters exhibit dubious motives and actions i.e characterisation is highly inconsistent. The horrors of war are well just not horrific, but the demonisation of the enemy is utter and complete, i.e it joins the ranks of one sided gung ho flicks like Black Hawk Down for me. Of all the Stephen King movies you mentioned only Shinning merits a mention in my book. And that is primarily because Kubrick basically chucked the novel away and made whatever the hell he wanted to make. i.e a Master Piece. It's funny how a lot of Shinning's best moments have a lot more in common with 2001, the hunting slow paced tracking shots through the hallway than anything Stephen King has done. Getting on your high horse defending Stephen Kings's simplistic shmaltz loaded morality tales is hysterical. If you sat down and took a look at say Kangaroo Jack and one of Stephen Kings movies you mentioned you will find the same three act conflict, expansion, resolution structure at work. Green Mile, hehehe. You kilt me that sudsy parable. Dead Zone is Cronenbergs worst ever film. That's coming from a huge fan that owns half his movie and have seen em all. |
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I don't know what arts media course you're doing just now, but I'm afraid it is slightly fudging your judgement. Different does not automatically mean brilliant and also because a film follows a linear structure does not automatically make it shite. I think your problem is that you are to busy looking at what your lecturer is telling you to spot in a film to actually enjoy the film itself. Apocalypse Now Redux long, languid, dreamy - yeah i'm sure i read that on the box as well. Unfortunately what i saw was something different. What i saw was a marketing cash-in that ruined my memories of the original. Also Being John Malkovich is one of the biggest pieces of pseudo-intellectual film-making wank i have ever sat through. Different - yes. Good - Fucking hell NO. |
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I dont know where you saw Apocalypse Now Redux, but when I saw it in the theatre on the giant screen I simply floated. I didnt need a box to tell me that. Because I didnt see it out of a box. I saw it in the THEATRE. Well no media courses for me Mr. Hicks I call em as I see em. And the amount of movies I scoff churn and regurgitate, you better be different as hell to hold my interest, otherwise the cruise control kicks in. I guess we just want different things from our entertainment dollar. Nothing wrong with that. Being John Malkovich is everything you said it was but it didnt stop me from enjoying it. Funny you mention Green Mile with the widdle mouse, what did you enjoy about that film? They were practically beaming fucking cue cards for the audience to lauch into the mode of emoting. Big Killer with widdle mouse. Isnt it touching. (SOB). At least Mouse Hunt subverted the format, did everything a family film is NOT supposed to do, and did it surrounded by some the most gorgeous production design Hollywood has offered of late, the only film that comes close Jeunet et Caro's "Delicatessan" and "City of Lost Childrens" design aesthetic. What's not to love. |
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The avatar still rocks. And thanks Recycle. |
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Yours does too. I quite dig the Bohemian like you track by em. |
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yeah Dandies Rule. The first two records are the best though. |
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My point is this - Christopher Walken WAS cool. Now he's just a whore selling his ass for a few bucks. Funny but I seem to remember your name sake stand up comic peddling his own wares at every little comedy club, improv joint and EVERY single TV program that could possibly have an avenue or an oppertunity for a stand up act. So arent you slavishly worshipping a DEAD WHORE by your own description? |
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Oh dear - I don't think there's anything left to debate from a man who puts production design above things like acting and storyline. You're right. We do like different things. What did i like about the green mile - well, let me think. Themes like mortality, love, loss, religion, redemption were all broached in what was a very moving story. The juxtaposition of the mouse and the big killer is and obvious story-telling tool possibly reminiscent of things like of mice and men and shit like that but it doesn't make the film any less true or beautiful. When Mr. Jinx came out of the matchbox at the end of the film i must admit i was weeping like a 6 year old child. But i'm like that. I love films about love and loss and reunion and spirituality and shit like that. They are beautiful. They are about life. Art is meant to reflect life. But you're right. we do like different things. So, we'll agree to disagree. |
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Whoa. This is getting deep. |
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Let's all just be friends and love the rock. |
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Another fucking stupid ingenuous statement that is too ridiculous to even begin to argue with. Let's just say that i don't think you would have seen Bill shaking his ass on TV promoting some fucking balding DJ's shite album. Bill spoke the truth. At all times. |
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WHAT bill_hicks is not YOURR rreal name? :O |
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Love the rock is a stupid statement? |
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Followup to FLUX: #00802162 |
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Oh damn. It's too early in the morning for me to be operating machines. |
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Hahaha a man who loves Christopher Walken slags Bill Hicks' integrity off? WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOO that's classic! |
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Not trying to be nasty or anything but what you said about Green Mile sounded to me like.. Blah Blah Blah Cliche Piled on Cliche. The end. If art's sole purpose is to reflect life then we must be in the golden age of televisual arts with reality abound in every conceivable extrapolation. From people starving on Desert Islands roasting and Eating Mice to People sitting around Idle, isolated and bored out of their fucking wits in prefabricated houses. Art's power to subvert and enlighten is surely a valuable asset, no? Otherwise why not just sit in the back porch or look out the window and see the life pass by have a chat or two with the neighbours go down to the pub. Cant get more real than that. Art at it's most intimate then? |
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But he was more than willing to appear on David Letterman. No? I wasnt questioning Bill Hicks integrity. I was just filtering Bill through the ridiculous logic frame work bill_hicks had set up. And found Bill Hicks just as wanting as Christopher Walken in that noose like apparatus. |
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we'll agree to disagree. twat. |
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Yeah but what you should remember is that Bill Hicks was going on these programs and telling jokes, but spreading an underlying message about all the corruptness of government and wrongs in society. He had things to say and wanted as many people to hear them as possible. What excuse can Walken have for The Prophecy sequels? And Letterman didn't even air Hicks' last set as it was deemed offensive. |
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I am sure as much as Bill Hicks had an underlying agenda, monetary concerns will always be a prime factor in accepting a job. How much or a difference can you make if you know the power of editing, and yet continue to make appearances on Television programs knowing fully well, what you say will be controlled. What drives you there, the underlying agendas or the appearance fees? The question isnt whether Letterman aired his last set or not. But that he was willing to appear on Letterman. The biggest and most conservative show out there, m\not very far apart from say Kangaroo Jack. The Prophecy Sequels. Simple. Benjamins baby Benjamins. I am not for a second denying that Christopher Walken doesnt appears on anything and everything and everything thrown at him. But what ever he does he does with incredible panache and style, making it a strangely surreal and entertaining experience when I see him chew scenery with his usual aloof cool on what is basically a dog biscuit commercial. That's what makes Christopher Walken great for me. If you take another look at my avatar he seems to be inexplicably promoting a milkshake. |
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Well I've read Bill Hick's biography and I think you're wrong. But I'm not gonna call you a twat for it :) I like Walken too, I just think he kinda soils his reputation doing some of these crappy films. |
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I have nothing but respect for late Mr. Hicks, I was merely pointing out that, if anyone can be called a whore for accepting a job then Bill Hicks himself is not beyond reproach based on this narrow point of view either. As far as Walken is concerned well the poor man is not getting any younger, the days of maverick directors making incredibly personal and leftfield movies are surely numbered as the festival/indie cim\nema gets gobbled up by the conglomerates, so I do not begrudge any actor appearing in anything they can. That's the nature of the business. I mean Johnny Depp in a movie based on a fairground ride? These are different times. |
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Another good example is the mighty Bruce Campbell on the utterly cringe worthy Xena. It makes me cringe like mad but I am not about to think any less of him either. |
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babe watch!!! |
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