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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-07-19 18:52 [#00786751]
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they are called "talented" and "untalented"... I think they are great, several drummers; and the singer has a great voice.
I mean e.g. inflames (of Sweden) has more melodic tracks, but Slipknot has a very nice feeling to their tracks...
hope they go even more fast/aggressive in the future!
opinions?
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-07-19 18:54 [#00786758]
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they can all carrrry on pissing on each otherrs faces on stage as farr as i carre. i hope they catch something, something parrents carre about, unlike disturrbing lyrrics, then i might not see slipknot jackets ages 9 to 12 anymorre, and won't have to pay forr theirr ashes afterr i have burrned them in the shop.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2003-07-19 18:54 [#00786759]
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I really don't like them, There are a couple of people in the band who are talented but imo it's all a charade and i don't think they'll release another album because the hype is not really there anymore.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-07-19 18:56 [#00786762]
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I think their 'people = shit' slogan is kinda ignorant. It plays into the hands of corporate fucks, by having these slipknot fans going around wearing this slogan, when they should be loving people - it's the only way to unite against the soulless world of Western Capitalism. By segregating themselves into anti-social cliques, they're helping to weaken the unity. United, the people won't allow the power of the Corporate Pimps to be wielded over them !
LOVE IS THE LAW
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xceque
on 2003-07-19 18:56 [#00786764]
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Untalented. I heard two Slipknot track once and once was enough. Not that anyone cares what I think.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-07-19 18:57 [#00786765]
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I like the way they denounce the neo-totalitarism that caracterize our society.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-07-19 18:59 [#00786775]
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yes dude. love is the law (it's the biggest and strongest of all feelings).
but that's not the point. people = shit is a nice track... kinda slow though. if you like gabber and any kind of metal you know what I mean, no reason to take their lyrics for real.
it's just fun and being ignorant for the moment. not that I consider myself to be a fan of them - I just like some of their tracks.
I like different types of metal.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2003-07-19 19:00 [#00786777]
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I agree with that statement!
It's true because when i walk down the street all i feel is a deep sense of forboding and isolation, why does it have to be like that, I think because of people like that and the media exploiting it.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-07-19 19:03 [#00786780]
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I'm just talking about that slogan, which I've seen written on their CD cases, and on their T-shirts.
I like Gabba and certain intense metal - I've heard their CDs (my little brother has them) - they are OK - nothing stunning - they came to the limelight for their gimmicky act, not for their music - so, nothing new there, then.
Personally, I find them as intimidating as a soggy marshmallow.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-07-19 19:03 [#00786781]
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Oh, I read their lyrics, too -- pretty dire.
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billabongbill
from Dublin (Ireland) on 2003-07-19 19:03 [#00786782]
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I kinda like their tunes. They're definately the best out of that whole "Nu Metal" scene. They're image and ethics kinda ruin them tho. It's very easy to pick holes in their arguments. They rock tho and that is always what is most important :)
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-07-19 19:05 [#00786788]
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I think the music of Dillinger Escape Plan is superior ! I would say DEP are the best of the bunch, but I still have to further ravage Jarworski's music collexion to hear more - he is my inside connexion to the world of metal.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-07-19 19:06 [#00786791]
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well I haven't tried to analyze their lyrics... hehe... I just like some of their tracks... some are even really melodic ones like "wait and bleed" and "left behind"... thoose tracks are great.
yeah I like gabber to... anything from dutch mainstyle to terror... just bring it on as long as it's good (there is of course a lot of crap gabber).
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2003-07-19 19:07 [#00786793]
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I've actually petty much given up on music with lyrics because everythings become so trite, feelings don't seem to matter to anyone anymore most people seem willing to be told how to feel these day's, it's sad really.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-07-19 19:11 [#00786803]
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that is quite true - when I listen to early Cohen, Doors, Donovan, Lennon et al, and then listen to a lot of modern stuff - even the supposedly less-mainstream music has really crap lyrical content - just words put together for the melody, unfortunately - thank god this isn't pandemic - some bands/artists still maintain good lyrics, and without sounding like pretentious wankers !
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2003-07-19 19:15 [#00786812]
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Do you have any recommendations?
Mind you i've always had more of attachment to music not words like certain sounds bring back more than words do but cohen writes fucking good poems they are seriously deep.
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billabongbill
from Dublin (Ireland) on 2003-07-19 19:18 [#00786822]
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Weren't Dilliger Escape Plan a punk band from a few years back???? Haven't heard them but i recognise the name. They certainly don't get played often where i'm from.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-07-19 19:19 [#00786824]
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For Metal, ask Yavo.
For lyrics, the ones I mentioned were the first to spring to mind, so I guess I consider those of the best lyricism in music.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-07-19 19:19 [#00786826]
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Are you thinking of Dillinger Four?
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billabongbill
from Dublin (Ireland) on 2003-07-19 19:23 [#00786833]
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nope. Never heard of them. Just saw yr other thread on them. I'll go and check that out
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-07-19 19:25 [#00786838]
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I'm sure I read that DEP formed from an earlier group - almost certainly they did - whether it was a punk outfit or not - I'm not so sure - check their allmusic.com page - that should contain info on this.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-07-19 19:27 [#00786843]
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shock tactics obviously, but clearly they do have talent, but cease to use it...
"left behind" shows a coherence they lack in most of not all of their other work, tis a shame really.
prefer fear factory.
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billabongbill
from Dublin (Ireland) on 2003-07-19 19:29 [#00786844]
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wow, just read that other thread. They sound pretty interesting alright. I could be wrong about them being an old punk band so don't stress out too much :) I'll keep an eye/ear out for them
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-07-19 19:33 [#00786857]
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definately download their stuff ! You'll love it ! :)
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-07-19 20:35 [#00787004]
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so I downloaded "Left Behind" per earthleakage.
I could definetly rock this in a pit, if people didn't bash my head in, but this is defintely not something I can listen to more than once.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-07-19 20:36 [#00787007]
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I do really dig that track... I do like metal, but my fav rockband is of course Placebo - although they do the softer type of rock.
Of course I also like previous bands like the pixies and smashing pumpkins.
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Amnesiac
from ERIE (United States) on 2003-07-19 20:39 [#00787010]
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there is so much other better metal to be into, leave slipknot for the fat middle school kids.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-07-19 20:45 [#00787016]
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well give some examples then... I reckon them to be one of the best nu-metal bands...
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-07-19 20:46 [#00787017]
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are they really nu-metal?
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-07-19 20:47 [#00787018]
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well what kind of metal are they else?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-07-19 20:49 [#00787019]
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just metal? may be thrash metal? or complex metal?
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-07-19 20:53 [#00787022]
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Yes!!!! Slipknot rawks! go check "eyeless" ...it has a killer D'n'b-sample ....
also "get this" and "eyore" (sp?)
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-07-19 20:54 [#00787023]
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well... I do believe they are nu-metal...
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-07-19 20:55 [#00787024]
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heya! back in Denmark!!?? so what's going on in your place in Sveg? I heard Sveg had some difficulties getting SVT1 to work tonight.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-07-19 20:55 [#00787025]
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oh well - it's just another label for me to forget !
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2003-07-19 22:14 [#00787050]
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I used to like Slipknot back when I was 13 or 14 but then I realized that there is much better metal than them and they really aren't very good (imo).
Great metal albums (for people who would like to know): Slayer "Reign In Blood" (thrash) Metallica "Master of Puppets" (thrash) Immolation "Here In After" (death metal) Repulsion "Horrified" (grindcore) Terrorizer "World Downfall" (grindcore) Mastodon "Remission" (modern heavy death metal with hardcore influences)
Carcass "Heartwork" (melodic death metal)
...I think I'll stop there.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-20 05:19 [#00787127]
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First time I heard of Slipknot was a feature in Kerrang! with a pic of them all dressed up and some info about them (they were recording their self titled at the time)... I was like, oh fucking spare me look at this shite. Mr Bungle copyists, all about the marketing. Then I heard a rough demo of 'Eyeless' and I was like "fuuuuuck!". It's not always a band's fault when they suddenly become massive and have thousands of little kids wearing their t-shirts, but it sure as fuck puts you off them and in this case I think Slipknot took any integrity they might have garnered by blowing bands off the stage at Ozzfest and sold it down the river with their customised lunchboxes.
And 'Iowa' was fucking dreadful.
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-20 06:54 [#00787162]
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i agree with marlowes statement regarding the slogan. it is kind of ignorant in my opinion, anyway.
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Amnesiac
from ERIE (United States) on 2003-07-20 12:19 [#00787438]
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"best nu-metal band" the biggest oxymoron i've ever heard.
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Amnesiac
from ERIE (United States) on 2003-07-20 12:25 [#00787442]
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oh yeah examples of better metal/hardcore/grindcore bands for Key_Secret's viewing pleasure:
- Deicide - Pig Destroyer - Vader - Converge - Napalm Death - Internal Bleeding - Kalibas - Eighteen Visions - Dead to Fall
and this list goes on and on and on, never including slipknot.
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-20 14:24 [#00787491]
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what about messhuggah? i heard they were good. someone said they were norwegian
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-20 14:32 [#00787499]
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FUCK THAT SHIT
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morguean
from Calgary (Canada) on 2003-07-20 15:17 [#00787521]
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messhuggah is a joke
just kidding they are okay
actually i don't even know
BUT ON THE TOPIC OF SLIPKNOT'S LYRICS AND HOW THEY SUCK
LOOK AT THE ONES FOR THE TRACK 'prosthetics' haha it's disturbing it's about how he loves someone so much he wants to kill them
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Amnesiac
from ERIE (United States) on 2003-07-20 15:47 [#00787541]
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wow this shit is deeeeeeeeep:
Running out of ways to run I can't see, I can't be Over and over and under my skin All this attention is DOING ME IN!
FUCK IT ALL! FUCK THIS WORLD! FUCK EVERYTHING THAT YOU STAND FOR! DON'T BELONG! DON'T EXIST! DON'T GIVE ME A SHIT! DON'T EVER JUDGE ME!
Picking through the parts exposed Taking shape, taking shag Over and over and under my skin All this momentum is DOING ME IN!
FUCK IT ALL! FUCK THIS WORLD! FUCK EVERYTHING THAT YOU STAND FOR! DON'T BELONG! DON'T EXIST! DON'T GIVE A SHIT! DON'T EVER JUDGE ME!
You got all my love, livin' in your own hate Drippin' hole man, hard step, no fate Show you nuthin', but I ain't holdin' back Every damn word I say is a sneak attack When I get my hands on you Ain't a fuck thing you can do Get this cuz you're never gonna get me I am the very disease you pretend to be
I am the push that makes you move
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-07-20 15:51 [#00787543]
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deep
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-20 15:52 [#00787545]
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SLIPNOT EQUAL SHIT
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2003-07-20 15:55 [#00787547]
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I really like their music. However, I don't give a fuck about their style/image and lyrics and I would never wear a Slipknot shirt (or any other metal-band shirt).
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-20 15:56 [#00787548]
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i'm sorry, i should've said
SLIPNOT! EQUAL! SHIT!
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2003-07-20 15:57 [#00787549]
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And by the way, who gives a fuck that 15 year old kids listen to them.
I LISTEN WHAT I LIKE, NOT MUSIC THAT IS NON-COMMERCIAL.
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2003-07-20 15:58 [#00787550]
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Saw some kid yesterday with a Snotlip shirt. I don't know if this is an official Slipknot shirt or just for showing everyone you really hate the band...
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