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         |  soon
             from the moon and 2002-07-30 12:55 on 2003-07-19 13:51 [#00786369] Points: 227 Status: Regular
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 | Without going into it a great deal, there has been a lot of discussion (especially with the release of smojphace) that
 Richard is ripping off the fans. As in Smojphace was a junk
 release just to prove that his fans will buy just about
 anything that he'd put out.
 
 What is you take on this? Do you agree/disagree? Do you
 think smojphace was made for our (fans) mockery?
 
 I am really not so sure about this belief. Why would Richard
 mock his loyalists? I think that he is just trying out new
 things. Being innovative instead of rehashing the same ol`
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         |  nobsmuggler
             from silly mid-off on 2003-07-19 13:55 [#00786372] Points: 6265 Status: Addict
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 | mockery or noise that creates something 
 
 
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         |  Inverted Whale
             from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-07-19 14:02 [#00786375] Points: 3301 Status: Lurker
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 | Just a tip. If you want to provoke a thoughtful debate, leave out your opinion on your first post.
 
 Otherwise these topics tend to turn into a big love-in of
 people agreeing with the original post.
 
 
 
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         |  Q4Z2X
             on 2003-07-19 14:03 [#00786376] Points: 5264 Status: Lurker
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 | as ye rip, so shall ye be ripped 
 
 
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         |  soon
             from the moon and 2002-07-30 12:55 on 2003-07-19 14:03 [#00786377] Points: 227 Status: Regular | Followup to Inverted Whale: #00786375
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 | Funny because as i was thinking the exact same thing i noticed your post.
 
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         |  rockenjohnny
             from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-19 14:07 [#00786378] Points: 7983 Status: Lurker
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 | i can only offer my own opinon! 
 face it aphex has slipped into the commercial.
 
 not that its a bad thing but when i want innovation i look
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         |  Inverted Whale
             from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-07-19 14:08 [#00786379] Points: 3301 Status: Lurker
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 | But to answer the question, I don't think he's taking the fans for a ride. He's a bit of a prankster but I don't think
 he'd go that far.
 
 I'm not going to buy this release. If the B side were an
 instrumental of the A side I probably would have, though.
 
 
 
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         |  Q4Z2X
             on 2003-07-19 14:12 [#00786380] Points: 5264 Status: Lurker
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 | he's taking us for a ride (imo), but wooooo! what a rip-roaring ride of insanity it is! yeah! :shrill, high
 pitched scream: *catcall*, etc..
 
 
 
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         |  soon
             from the moon and 2002-07-30 12:55 on 2003-07-19 14:15 [#00786384] Points: 227 Status: Regular
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 | and what was that about "fuck off trainspotters" being aimed at us or collectors? I read something somewhere where it
 said that etched on the side (?) it said "fuck off
 trainspotters". Later on in the thread there was talk about
 how that might have been aimed at obsessive fans?
 
 
 
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         |  xceque
             on 2003-07-19 14:15 [#00786385] Points: 5888 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | I tend to think of that release as a one track EP and the other tracks are something that needs decoding or ignoring
 or whatever you fancy. If you think of it as a one track EP
 it doesn't seem such a waste. Unless you you don't like the
 one track of course. But I like it.
 The other two tracks contain some interesting sounds in
 occasional places, but I think that's just just serendipity
 and the second one is better than the first, probably cos
 it's over sooner :D
 
 I think he'd definitely go as far as to put piss-take tracks
 on his releases, but I don't think he'd put out a release
 that was entirely a pisstake. If I was in his
 position I'd do something similar for sure just cos it'd
 give me a laugh. But that's just me.
 
 
 
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         |  rockenjohnny
             from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-19 14:19 [#00786387] Points: 7983 Status: Lurker | Followup to rockenjohnny: #00786378
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 | so to talk about smoj 
 its rude as stuff. my favourite thing of his yet. just the
 instrumental idea of it.. ive said that before..
 
 you can look at it cynically, and say that possibly it is an
 attention seeking thing.. but what music isnt in a way?
 
 so no im not so harsh as to bag aphex as i might sound.
 
 i guess im bent on a live sound :D its been the best fun
 doing this with ryan, hopefully well pull one more jam
 before he goes to euro..
 
 
 
 
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         |  virginpusher
             from County Clare on 2003-07-19 14:36 [#00786397] Points: 27325 Status: Lurker
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 | I really like the first track. It would be cool to see RDJ do an album that is dub mixed with his classic AFX style. I
 would like to see where that goes.
 
 Is there more to come form this guy? Or do we have to wait
 1,000,000 years?
 
 
 
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         |  rockenjohnny
             from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-19 14:52 [#00786404] Points: 7983 Status: Lurker | Followup to virginpusher: #00786397
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 | thats a lot of sphex 
 
 
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         |  Q4Z2X
             on 2003-07-19 14:55 [#00786406] Points: 5264 Status: Lurker
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 | the ol' aphex race of 1848 
 
 
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         |  roygbivcore
             from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-19 14:58 [#00786408] Points: 22557 Status: Lurker
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 | it's a piece of shit 
 
 
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         |  J Swift
             from United Kingdom on 2003-07-19 15:09 [#00786416] Points: 650 Status: Regular
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 | I think Smoj was perfectly timed! Think about this...
 26 Mixes for Cash was quite an accessable release - I have
 heard quite a few (pseudo anti)fashionable indie studenty
 types talking about it as if they'd been listening to RJ
 from day one - So - Obviously, after such an accessable
 release he goes out and does something completely the
 opposite.
 I think RJ's managed what so few have in any scene - And
 that is to become HUGELY successful, yet never accessable
 enough for the masses of tragically unhip indie types to
 latch on to him - Which is perfect!
 Also, he's got everyone talking again, fueling his fire - It
 doesn't matter what you thought of this release, EVERYONE's
 going to be waiting with baited breath to see what he does
 next...
 
 
 
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         |  xceque
             on 2003-07-19 15:14 [#00786420] Points: 5888 Status: Moderator | Followup to J Swift: #00786416 | Show recordbag
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 | Couldn't have said it better myself. 
 
 
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         |  nacmat
             on 2003-07-19 18:58 [#00786770] Points: 31275 Status: Lurker
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 | I will say it again: 
 I love smojphace
 
 all of it
 
 
 
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         |  patrik
             from Keele (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-20 07:45 [#00787185] Points: 1448 Status: Regular
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 | tracks 2 and 3 are (digital) wee track 1 is brilliant, especially in the morning.
 
 
 
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         |  promo
             from United Kingdom on 2003-07-20 08:10 [#00787197] Points: 4227 Status: Addict
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 | Well what are track 2 and 3? Are they just noise? 
 
 
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         |  horsefactory
             from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-20 08:35 [#00787211] Points: 14867 Status: Regular
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 | autechre 
 
 
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         |  promo
             from United Kingdom on 2003-07-20 08:37 [#00787213] Points: 4227 Status: Addict
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 | Well I'm sure they'll be some new trend or take on things soon by Aphex. Things evolve all the time.
 
 
 
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