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         |  sadist
             from the dark side of the moon on 2003-07-17 18:24 [#00784141] Points: 8671 Status: Lurker
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 | so, i'm creating music now for about a year, and i came to the conclusion that i want to get some "real" hardware
 stuff, not only more emulators on the pc.
 but in the great forest of synthesizers, and other stuff,
 it's kinda difficult for me to choose.
 i would want something quite cheap (about 200 dollars or
 less)(used of course), that i could make some noise with.
 now, i know that some of you have some experience in these
 things. could anybody recommend me something or share his
 thoughts about that ?
 
 
 
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         |  promo
             from United Kingdom on 2003-07-17 18:29 [#00784148] Points: 4227 Status: Addict
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 | Korg 05/RW. Its what I've got its a great synth module. 40 internal effects, plenty of sounds, plenty of good drums
 sounds, massive bend range for wicked pitch shifting effects
 on drums. Of course you'll need a PC keyboard to do bending.
 
 
 
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         |  corticalstim
             from Canada on 2003-07-17 18:33 [#00784151] Points: 3885 Status: Regular | Followup to sadist: #00784141
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 | when i see that avatar all i can think of is that scene from clockwork orange with the iwlliam tell overture playingt -
 if only we could play music from our avatars :D
 
 
 
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         |  sadist
             from the dark side of the moon on 2003-07-17 18:43 [#00784172] Points: 8671 Status: Lurker | Followup to promo: #00784148
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 | can't find any info... you sure about that model name ? 
 
 
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         |  promo
             from United Kingdom on 2003-07-17 18:54 [#00784182] Points: 4227 Status: Addict
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 | Korg 05R/W thats better 
 
 
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         |  promo
             from United Kingdom on 2003-07-17 18:56 [#00784184] Points: 4227 Status: Addict
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 | I bought mine in '98 for £299 reduced from £500 but probably worth what I paid for it. I think they're worth
 about £150 now.
 
 
 
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         |  sadist
             from the dark side of the moon on 2003-07-17 18:59 [#00784190] Points: 8671 Status: Lurker | Followup to promo: #00784182
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 | but i need a midi keyboard or a pc switched to it to get it running right ?
 
 
 
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         |  forck_02lynix
             from brooklyn on 2003-07-17 19:46 [#00784276] Points: 4000 Status: Regular
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 | i just bought a microKORG, and i must say it's pretty cool...$400, 128 programs, loads of effects and *GASP* a
 VOCODER
 
 it's pretty neat, the vocoder isn't all that great, but you
 can get quite a range of sounds from it
 
 
 
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         |  sadist
             from the dark side of the moon on 2003-07-17 20:05 [#00784331] Points: 8671 Status: Lurker | Followup to forck_02lynix: #00784276
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 | what's the vocoder for ? 
 
 
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         |  Spacecadet
             on 2003-07-18 11:12 [#00785226] Points: 1790 Status: Lurker
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 | get an MC-303 (not a TB-303) it'll do everything u need, imagine fruity loops in a box with knobs on
 
 
 
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         |  J Swift
             from United Kingdom on 2003-07-18 12:10 [#00785338] Points: 650 Status: Regular
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 | MC-303 sounds a little too toy-like for some though - Good sequencer, but very digital sounding.
 I'd go for something like the Waldorf Pulse - They're dirt
 cheap second-hand these days - Something like that
 compliments a software setup perfectly being real
 analogue... Much deeper basses, much more presense in a mix,
 can do acid lines much more convincingly than any
 softsynth/digital box, much more hands-on...
 I'd certainly go for something analogue and see how you get
 on with it.
 
 
 
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         |  dave_g
             from United Kingdom on 2003-07-18 13:20 [#00785461] Points: 3372 Status: Lurker
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 | Try and get a 2nd hand roland sh101 for some nice analogue sounds, the korg 05r/w is a small halfrack module I beleive.
 you need a midi keyboard to use it, (or midi out cable from
 pc and a sequencer).I was thinking of getting one, mainly
 because you can process external sounds through it(I
 beleive). I wouldn't bother with some of the cheaper units,
 but perhaps a EF303 or MC09 by roland would be good. I would
 also recommend the new UB series of mixers by behringer and
 perhaps one of those electribe boxes by korg(although I'm
 not a fan, many are). the yamaha smaller samplers are
 supposed to be quiet good, but again im not a fan,really you
 should save up a bit of money and get a decent 2nd hand akai
 or emu unit.preferbly an akai s3000 or above if you can
 afford it. also get a cheap akai mpc2000 if you find one,
 because they are great drum machines(you supply the drum
 samples from fx cds or from your own recordings/samples).
 very popular in the hiphop world, but great for electronic
 as well.the best bet for decent cheap gear is 2nd hand
 stuff.if its been well looked after and not used on the road
 out gigging, but in the studio, it should be almost as good
 as new and provide you with a great tool.
 
 
 
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