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         |  catharsis
             from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-13 08:08 [#00776749] Points: 836 Status: Regular
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 | At what point (i.e.) 96kb/s, 128kb/s, 196kb/s etc) do you fail to here those "squeeky" high frequency sounds?  Most of
 my downloaded songs are at 128kb/s - do I lose a lot of
 sound this way?
 
 
 
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         |  xf
             from Australia on 2003-07-13 08:13 [#00776755] Points: 2952 Status: Lurker
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 | yeah. 
 i don't like anything lower than 192kb/sec, really.  depends
 on your speakers; but on my system, you can definitely
 notice a difference.
 
 given, though, it all depends on the encoder too - i've got
 128kb/sec mp3's that sound a whole lot better then some
 192kb/sec or even 256kb/sec ones encoded with a crappy
 codec.
 
 
 
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         |  catharsis
             from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-13 08:15 [#00776758] Points: 836 Status: Regular
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 | I use the latest version of Nero to burn 128kb/s mp3s to CD. I can't notice too much of a difference (if at all).
 I've only done this so far with µ-ziq Bluff Limbo and In
 Pine Effect....which have terrible sound quality anyway.
 
 
 
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         |  ymenard
             on 2003-07-13 18:25 [#00777467] Points: 1001 Status: Regular
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 | yuor speakers are teh suxors if so! 
 or perhaps teh ears :)
 
 
 
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         |  denniscpearce
             from Canada on 2003-07-13 18:29 [#00777487] Points: 1562 Status: Regular
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 | ever given ogg a try? compared to lower bitrate mp3s its incredeble (at the same
 bitrate).
 its also free, and opensource (mp3 is neither).
 ill provide samples if anyone whos never heard it before is
 interested....
 at higher bitrates (like 192 ) its obviously harder to see
 alot of improvement while using ogg, but it does sound  much
 better
 
 
 
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