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welcome to your doom from redondo on 2001-10-30 02:25 [#00046901] | |||||||||
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I've been trying very hard for the past couple years to do the kind of drum & bass/jungle stuff that RDJ and Tom Jenkinson do so well... needless to say I haven't had much success. My tracks sound like big drum solos rather than having that flow and continuity that their tracks have... can someone tell me, from a technique rather than software standpoint, a few pointers on creating these kinds of tracks? |
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od from perth on 2001-10-30 02:32 [#00046906] | |||||||||
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i wont really be able to help you (mostly coz i dont really know what im doing, myself anyway) but you have to leanr it for yourself. its a "feel" thing, sort of an instinct. it will take ages, but no one can just tell you in technical language "oh this snare is preceeded by a grace not snare and therefore there are two snares in a row with no space between them , therefore it is wrong, you have to move the gracenote left two spaces or skip the 5th space snare that is usually there, creating an odd affect, which can often make the listener "lose the beat" which is, of course bad" you know? that makes sense (to me) but tis all rubbish, you just gotta stick at it and learn beat structures. |
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Aktium from www.mp3.com/aktium on 2001-10-30 03:13 [#00046919] | |||||||||
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Just experiment, iv'e been producing for 5 years. just go all out and have an open mind of the instruments/samples you are incorperating. it just takes patients. |
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rF from pleth/perth/purf on 2001-10-30 03:20 [#00046924] | |||||||||
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od: my whole purpose with my jungle/drill stuff is to make people 'lose the beat'... advice: develop your own style. start beatboxing and write drum lines with your mouth instead of with a music program. also don't try to make it too complex. start with a simple drum'n'bass beat (boom boom kha shikashika boom kha shika, or something) and then change the positioning of the drums and add more with snare rushes etc... that's what i do anyway.. |
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Aktium on 2001-10-30 03:26 [#00046932] | |||||||||
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ya, i do that too sometimes, start simple and ad the complex stuff later. and don't do it on that same day, i go back to songs like months after and ad stuffthe more time yuo spend on it, the more complex it becomes |
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DblHeLX from moon on 2001-10-30 06:17 [#00046984] | |||||||||
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you shouldnt try to make music that you like. you should just make what you are capable of. if you try and force a song it'll most likely sound like crap no matter what. my favorite kind of music is harcore industrial stuff. like nine inch nails and marilyn manson. i tried to make that kinda stuff for a while and it sounded all melodramatic and stuff, i hated it. then one day i said 'fuck it', i just goofed around and ended up making one of the best songs ive ever made.(some real chill/music box/triphop/ambient stuff) the 'low down' is, dont force the music, have fun and do what comes natural, the last thing we need is an aphex/pusher sound alike anyways. so keep trying, youll find your style :D |
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Aktium on 2001-10-30 06:25 [#00046985] | |||||||||
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ya, just go for a new style ,electronic music needs to evolve. The only way to do that is to experiment. So once you get a peice done, and you know that its original. exploit it!!! |
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DblHeLX from moon on 2001-10-30 06:28 [#00046986] | |||||||||
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i played my shit at the pizza shop i work at . best quote on it was,, "whats with the fuckin' xylophone, man?" hehe |
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m on 2001-10-30 07:45 [#00046990] | |||||||||
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Ha ha ha, rF, I do that too. I can make quite wicked rap like beats with my mouth (when no ones watching). It just comes out as a stream of consciousness that way. You're not blocked or limited by searching for the right key to press or some annoying thing to click etc. I was thinking of eventually recording myself doing it and then using software to convert it to a better quality track using other noises. I just need a microphone that works good (but I think when I do it it sounds different in my head because it resonates in my skull and mouth or something making it sound different to my ears than to the microphone...) Plus I get shy and mess up when I know the microphone is watching me. Listen to www.mp3.com/12 the song "microphone villain" as it uses just mouth beats like that. And lunatic harness's "lunatic harness"... (I also am an expert finger tapper/drummer heh heh...) |
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welcome to your doom from redondo on 2001-10-30 22:31 [#00047179] | |||||||||
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Much appreciated all-- i really can do that kind of stuff but i do it with my hands- i start tapping on a desk or whatever and i get really into it with the snare rushes and all- i want to get a pad drum machine and just record what i tap live, then put synths over it. |
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Chris Ochre from Newcastle, UK. (www.mp3.com/ochre) on 2001-10-30 23:08 [#00047239] | |||||||||
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Triplets. Gives you those rooooooooolling beats (see figure 4.17c 'Cometh To Father', by the Aefects Twynn.) Multiple baby beats. Seriously, triplets give you those wicked rolling rhyhms. It's best just to experiment with them, slip 'em in here and there and everywhere. Oh yeah, another good eg of triplets in action is 'Come On My Selecter', my the square-pushing man. You know know the bit in the vid where guard has trouser bitten by dog? Triplets. Toodle-pip, Chris. |
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