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         |  uzim
             on 2003-07-10 06:23 [#00772763] Points: 17716 Status: Lurker
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 | apples and oranges maybe but which one do you like best? : )
 
 (PS: can Ikaruga still be enjoyable if you suck?)
 
 
 
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         |  JAroen
             from the pineal gland on 2003-07-10 06:29 [#00772774] Points: 16065 Status: Regular
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 | rez! the synergy of orgasmic colors beats and blabla 
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         |  Spacecadet
             on 2003-07-10 07:29 [#00772836] Points: 1790 Status: Lurker
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 | rez rez rez 
 
 
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         |  Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-07-10 07:58 [#00772876] Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | I've got both. I regularly play both lots... I would say Ikaruga will only be really enjoyable if you're
 good at old school scrolling shoot em ups- most people find
 it very hard.
 
 Rez on the other hand has an excellent learning curve and
 the music is better than Ikaruga's IMO.
 
 I'd go for Rez if you absolutely positively can only afford
 one, but if you can, get both.
 
 
 
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         |  uzim
             on 2003-07-10 09:41 [#00772996] Points: 17716 Status: Lurker
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 | i could afford both, but video games are so expensive... - i was leaning towards Rez but now i'm asking because i heard
 Ikaruga wasn't edited anymore (so in order not to have
 regrets afterwards...)
 
 thanks =)
 
 
 
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         |  uzim
             on 2003-07-10 10:17 [#00773022] Points: 17716 Status: Lurker
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 | (btw, very pretty girl in your avatar Spacecadet!) 
 
 
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         |  corngrower
             from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-07-10 10:27 [#00773037] Points: 4404 Status: Lurker
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 | fuck man I want to get Rez so badly, but it doesn't go for less than like $70 on ebay, and no stores around here have
 it... anyone know of a place where I could find it for a
 decent price?
 
 
 
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         |  w M w
             from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-10 10:39 [#00773056] Points: 21639 Status: Lurker
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 | I got rez for about 55 dollars on ebay. It's great- definately not a industry stamped out clone for money. It's
 weird though. I havn't heard of Ikaruga.
 
 
 
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         |  cygnus
             from nowhere and everyplace on 2003-07-10 11:02 [#00773094] Points: 11923 Status: Lurker
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 | ikaruga is just plain tedious after a certain period with the points scoring system and everything, and its fucking
 frustrating. but the dynamics of it is great, a very avant
 garde game
 
 rez looks but i dont have it
 
 
 
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         |  surrounded
             from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-07-10 11:15 [#00773132] Points: 3787 Status: Regular
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 | ehr... these games aren't available for the same console are they? So unless you have more than one console, you'll never
 be able to play both.
 
 I've only played Ikaruga, but love that one very much. It's
 so hard though. The 4th level makes me want to cry.
 
 I'm beginning to understand what ceri said about this game
 awhile ago, 'bout getting in a trance :-)
 As long as i don't think too much about it, i can sort of
 survive in the 4th level (with all the streams of black and
 white bullets, each rotating in a different direction). But
 as soon as i start thinking: "what the fuck am i doing? This
 is way too hard!" I immediately get hit :-D
 
 Oh well... one day i will make it past that damned
 level.
 
 
 
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         |  uzim
             on 2003-07-10 12:16 [#00773228] Points: 17716 Status: Lurker
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 | surrounded > no, but my brother has a ps2 and i've bought a gamecube a few weeks ago (with zelda windwaker, hasn't got
 any other gc games yet) so i could play both =)
 
 
 
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         |  Spacecadet
             on 2003-07-10 12:27 [#00773244] Points: 1790 Status: Lurker
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 | for shootemups with ace music you gotta play mars matrix, the sounds and colours arnt linked to the action in any way,
 but the music's nasty as hell and it's the most difficult
 game i've played
 
 
 
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         |  electro
             from detroit on 2003-07-10 17:31 [#00773662] Points: 2880 Status: Regular
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 | ikaruga 
 
 
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         |  child810
             from boston (United States) on 2003-07-10 19:16 [#00773737] Points: 2103 Status: Lurker
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 | BOTH they BOTH rule in different ways, get REZ for instant gratification and Ikaruga for the long term goal of "uping"
 your skill level.
 
 It will get you ready for R-Type Final and Gradius 5!!!!
 
 
 
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         |  Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-07-11 02:04 [#00774030] Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Followup to surrounded: #00773132 | Show recordbag
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 | Both available for DC :) 
 Rez is also on PS2,
 Ikaruga is also on GC.
 
 It's the same for me, as soon as I actually focus on colour
 swapping I can't do it and avoid stuff at the same time, I
 sort of "autopilot" my colour changes and just focus on
 piloting and shooting.
 
 
 
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         |  surrounded
             from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-07-11 02:39 [#00774039] Points: 3787 Status: Regular
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 | "Both available for DC :)" 
 Ahh, i see :-)
 I already knew ikaruga originally appeared on the DC, but
 didn't know that about rez. Rez does sound special though...
 i'm still hoping it will also makes its way to GC ;-)
 
 "I sort of "autopilot" my colour changes and just focus
 on piloting and shooting."
 
 yeah, that is the way to go. I already can do it sometimes.
 Well i don't really do it i guess, it's more like it
 happens to me sometimes.
 
 It's fantastic the way you become better at the game almost
 without noticing it. The other day i made it through the 1st
 level without losing even one ship... i couldn't have even
 imagined that a few weeks ago :-p
 
 
 
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         |  uzim
             on 2003-08-09 14:04 [#00815581] Points: 17716 Status: Lurker
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 | i found Rez for something like 20 euros, new - so, got both! =)
 
 and i like both (Ikaruga being my favorite though - a
 masterpiece of a game... it is very hard but it's a good
 difficulty, not a "cheating" and frustrating difficulty like
 some games have...)
 
 anyone knows how to free Eden in Rez?
 
 (btw, i know Ikaruga has been stopped producing... it's
 getting hard to find now! and i'm not sure for Rez but it's
 probably the same)
 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-08-09 14:35 [#00815615] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker | Followup to uzim: #00815581
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 | Rez is discontinued due to problems with peoples playing it and having seizures.
 
 I don't know about Ikaruga, but Treasure IS working for
 Nintendo now, so there's a possibility it still might be
 available.
 
 I have yet to play Ikaruga, but if it's a difficult shooter,
 I'm in. Games are too easy these days.
 
 And btw, I believe you have to reach certain levels of
 accuracy % and item retrieval % in each stage in Rez to get
 Eden free. It's a time-consuming process. And you don't know
 you're successful until you've beaten the last boss.
 
 But if you're havin trouble with the boss, not to worry.
 Half of it is luck. And a lot of bombs. Keep shooting at
 everything until Eden reassembles.
 
 
 
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         |  uzim
             on 2003-08-09 15:29 [#00815649] Points: 17716 Status: Lurker
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 | overdrives are very useful also for the last boss... 
 
 
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         |  roygbivcore
             from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-08-09 15:51 [#00815676] Points: 22557 Status: Lurker
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 | what 
 the fuck
 
 
 
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