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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-08 15:38 [#00771203]
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A couple of months back Cameron said he was going to do it, it was just a case of deciding if it would be his next movie or the one after.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-07-08 15:42 [#00771210]
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agrreed
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-08 15:42 [#00771211]
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i hope its his next movie, i'm glad he's not doing true lies 2
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-08 15:43 [#00771215]
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i think Winona Ryder would make a good Alita
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-07-08 15:48 [#00771229]
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she'd make a good wife.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-10 10:42 [#00773061]
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"You mean the most successful movie of all time? Yes, I saw
that."
I just wanted to say I thought this was hilarious. Oh and fair play evolume, right on all counts :)
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-10 10:46 [#00773071]
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Why did you think it was hilarious?
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-10 10:52 [#00773077]
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Well since when is popularity indicative of quality? Note on the IMDB that Titanic's average is 6.9 out of ten. The top ten grossing movies of all time - Titanic, Harry Potter 1, Harry Potter 2, LOTR 2, Jurassic Park, LOTR 1, Independance Day, Phantom Menace, The Lion King and The Matrix Reloaded - I'd say 4 of them are good movies, and I'm including the Lion King in that.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-10 10:59 [#00773087]
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I do happen to think Titanic is a quality film, but we're not talking quality. You said Cameron had no credibility. I would say say the biggest grossing movie of all time buys you a lot of credibility as a director.
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-10 11:02 [#00773093]
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i thought titanic was appalling. it could have been ok without that farcical love story
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-07-10 11:04 [#00773099]
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Christ what's the big problem with Alien3? I thought it was a good follow-on to Aliens. "killed all those great characters from 2" wtf? Of course they did that was the point. As for putting Arnie in the Alien series that just plain heresy. :(
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-10 11:04 [#00773101]
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See I wouldn't say that either. It's not like Limp Bizkit get props from musos. Having the biggest grossing movie of all time buys you a lot of power as a director, not necessarily credibility. Well, maybe millions of housewives across the world have his poster on their walls, but not I.
I think it's safe to say we just disagree on this one :)
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-10 11:08 [#00773111]
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It's not like Limp Bizkit get props from musos.
I have no idea what that means :P
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-10 11:19 [#00773137]
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Heh, basically saying that selling a lot of copies - like "tha Bizkit" did with their last two albums - doesn't automatically command respect from people with valued/informed opinions. Hence the rating on IMDB. Interesting that in the average rating - 6.9 - that men voted it 6.8 on average, and women 7.1. I thought there'd be a much bigger gap than that. It also gets higher as the age goes up, people over 45 LOVE this movie :D
Hell, I know you're not a total spud for liking it, the Eraserhead avatar proves that you have some taste :P
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-10 11:25 [#00773155]
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I think it's a technical masterpiece more than anything. The romance storyline doesn't bother me either way.
...and no, I'm not a total spud. I like a mixed bag of stuff, as my top 100 movies list demonstrates :P
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-10 11:48 [#00773198]
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you rate Bruce Willis higher as an actor as Gary Oldman..?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-07-10 11:59 [#00773214]
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Titanic is just Romeo and Juliet on a sinking ship. This un-original love story is how hollywood attempts to trick audiences into caring about anyone on the ship. But it's not the plot that makes Titanic impressive, everyone knows the frickin' boat is gonna sink anyway. It's the grand scale of the movie in general. The realistic special effects and modeling; the hoards of actors and stand-ins in many of the shots. it's a pretty amazing directorial accomplishment that few directors have the ability (or cash) to produce.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-07-10 11:59 [#00773215]
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WOULD you or WOULD you not fuck sigourney weaver as she was in the first alien. THE PANTY SCENE??? I think id pass.....
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-10 12:01 [#00773217]
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On that chart you're referring to, yes, but it's not a chart of who I think is the most skilled actor, more a chart of 'cumulative value'.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-10 12:04 [#00773218]
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Fucking right I would! She looks like a frog but that scene is erotic as fuck. I'd want to have the alien watching as we did it.
Danbrusca: That is a pretty tidy list, coupla classics missing maybe, and should the Godfather 3 really be there? ;) Nice to see you got Ghostbusters, that's all that matters.
Where's Groundhog Day, motherfucker!?!??
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-07-10 12:06 [#00773220]
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your movie list is intriguing. i would agree with about 40% of it but i can't see how movies like "deep impact" and "armageddon" or "Air Force One" would even come close to my top 200 list.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-07-10 12:12 [#00773226]
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man you forgot salma hayak's sexy performance in Dusk till Dawn
good gawd y'all
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-10 12:22 [#00773235]
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I think The Godfather Part 3 is a great film, though not as good as the first two.
The onyl real problem I have with it is Sophia Coppola's complete lameness as an actress, but there's more than enough good stuff to warrant it's inclusion in my top 100, what with the politics and Greek-style tragedy.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-10 12:24 [#00773238]
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I'm not snobbish about my top 100, if I find a movie really entertaining I'll add it, whether or not it's an artistic or technical masterpiece.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-10 12:25 [#00773240]
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It was actually in the list for a while, but it's brevity was it's eventual downfall.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-10 12:25 [#00773242]
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..
I'm flabberghasted.
why not make a list based on your actual opinion, not just a mathematical representation of how you rate them in individual films?
it just seems strangely anal, I guess. :)
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-07-10 13:26 [#00773296]
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"people with valued/informed opinions.....Hence the rating on IMDB" O K... and how does IMDB ryme with valued/informed opinions?
some biased "top250 of all time" they got there. I still remember how many of the sad gits there registered for a new account to work LOTR:FOTR away from the nr.1 spot cos it knocked their idolized godfather part1 off the nr1 spot. *insert shocked faces and whiny noises from Godfather lovers here* Gimme a break please.
That whole list is highly overrated and useless as a basis for fair ratings, it's just a bunch of kids fighting for their favorite flick. It's like asking a dead guy to give you backup during a shootout, trying to justify your own opinion by calling on IMBD.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-10 13:50 [#00773337]
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Give me another place that compares to it. There are none, it's the best place on the net to find out about movies. I'm sure there are thousands of kids voting with total bias for their favourite movies, overlooking all the flaws and awarding them 10, but LOTR got 100,000 votes. Not all of them are gonna be zealots, and you can break down the ages and see for yourself how many kids voted. It's the law of averages, it all balances out eventually. It's not like the top 10 list is completely unbelievable, those are generally the most popular movies of most people. I might not agree with it, and you might not, but there is a thing called "difference of opinion" - heard of it?
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-10 13:52 [#00773340]
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And I can't take you seriously because you rate Lethal Weapon 4 over the first one. In fact, they all get subsequently better? Pass me some of that shit you're on.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-07-10 14:12 [#00773361]
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"I might not agree with it, and you might not, but there is a thing called "difference of opinion" - heard of it? "
that's what I was aiming at with my post. IMBD's ratings are born from "OMG I LOVE THAT MOVIE SO MUCH votes" so there's no point in trying to find a valued source of filmratings, there are none, it's always a matter of opinion, which is proven by your latest post where you can't take me seriously because you don't like lethal weapon 4 better than 1.
But you don't have to take me serious, because I know I am right anyway.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-10 14:28 [#00773386]
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...because it's too complicated to just do it on opinion. Bringing in a rating element forces you to simplify the issue.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-10 14:32 [#00773395]
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yep. it oversimplifies the issue.
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