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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2003-07-01 05:58 [#00763452]
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the Dutch (and maybe Belgian) people here might find documentary on tv interesting...
I've seen it a few years ago and it features some interviews with dj Spooky, Squarepusher(in his little studio), Merzbow(with performance) and Karlheinz Stockhousen and other interesting musicmakers
"Nederland 3: Pitch (22.50): Sonic acts - van Stockhausen tot DJ Spooky (NPS). Documentaire waarin aan de hand van interviews, muziekfragmenten en archiefbeelden een beeld wordt gegeven van de stand van zaken en de ontwikkelingen in de elektronische muziek, bekeken vanuit een historisch perspectief. Het uitgangspunt is de crossover tussen serieuze elektronische muziek en de popmuziek. De muzikanten en componisten die in de film aan bod komen zijn o.a.: Karlheinz Stockhausen, Pierre Henry, Holger Czukay, Michel Waisvisz, Kraftwerk, Merzbow, Squarepusher en DJ Spooky."
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-07-01 05:59 [#00763453]
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!!! yay!
thank you!
thats tonight eh
im gonna record that fo sure!
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2003-07-01 06:00 [#00763454]
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Hee bedankt man! Ik ga zeker kijken, ik neem t ook op denk ik. thanks!
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snAre
from .oO Ghent Oo. (Belgium) on 2003-07-01 06:01 [#00763455]
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Cool! I'm certainly gonna watch it!
thanks man
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rez
from here on 2003-07-01 06:56 [#00763485]
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niet vergeten op te nemen!
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-07-01 07:07 [#00763501]
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die gaat dus wel ff opgenomen worden dacht ik zo
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2003-07-01 07:12 [#00763506]
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I'm definitely going to record this!
SHANKS!
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-07-01 07:14 [#00763510]
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oooh 22.50...
is dat na of voor sesamstraat mammie?
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-01 07:43 [#00763542]
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thanks for the tip! nice one
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-01 08:55 [#00763595]
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oohlala gaaf!!! :D opnemen die hap
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-07-01 09:10 [#00763630]
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nice :-D Thanks for that tip.
Maar ik ga het niet opnemen... één keer zien is wel genoeg, daarna draai ik weer gewoon cd's als ik wat van hen wil horen :-p
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-07-01 09:43 [#00763673]
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Ja, maar je moet ze ook willen zien! En als je ze ziet dan moet dat een warm gevoel teweegbrengen en je zou een enorm euforische sensatie moeten merken die waarschijnlijk nog het meest lijkt op een plasbui na een hele dag ophouden.
Van de andere kant: Jij hebt misschien wel een leven :P
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-01 09:45 [#00763678]
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hahaha :D
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-07-01 09:47 [#00763683]
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hahaha. Ja maar ik heb al videobanden vol met leuke videoclips en tv-programmas en live-optredens. En ik kijk er echt NOOIT naar :-p De eerste keer is leuk, maar daarna verveelt het me om zo'n interview nog een keer te zien.
"waarschijnlijk nog het meest lijkt op een plasbui na een hele dag ophouden. "
hehe, wel een goede vergelijking.
"Jij hebt misschien wel een leven :P"
wie ik? Haha... was dat maar waar ;-)
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2003-07-01 16:05 [#00764171]
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it was quite interesting. I didn't agree with what the german guy said. I hated him and that french dickhead too.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-07-01 16:12 [#00764186]
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didn't agree with what he said?
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-07-01 16:18 [#00764196]
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Yeah he saying something like; don't enjoy music, just listen to it to learn your life's lessons out of it :S
uhmm, no thanks sorry. I digged Spooky's view on music tho. He came across as quite the sensible chap to me.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-07-01 16:19 [#00764199]
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sensible? that guy is super intelligent! :D
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kluizenaar
from Netherlands Antilles on 2003-07-01 16:23 [#00764206]
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hé ik spendeer nooit genoeg tijd hier, dus was niet op de hoogte! :-( heb met geluk nog net de laatste paar minuten kunnen meepakken.
Iemand in de buurt van Nijmegen deze shit opgenomen,.wil er wel wat voor geven/ruilen etc
06-21613074
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kluizenaar
from Netherlands Antilles on 2003-07-02 01:39 [#00764685]
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*bump*
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-07-02 02:19 [#00764707]
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pfff... too much talking about music, and not enough listening to it! I really disliked the show. It seems like those television-makers did listen to the german guy: "don't enjoy music, just listen to it to learn your life's lessons out of it"
That's exactly what they did. I doubt this program really inspired anyone to check out any of this music. It was all so theoretical. They didn't talk at all about the beauty of the music.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-07-02 02:38 [#00764714]
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i only watched the show for tommy :)
he looked like a tramp tho hehhe
and jonas.. i recorded it.. but i woon in rotterdam so that wont help you i think
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2003-07-02 03:11 [#00764720]
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"pfff... too much talking about music, and not enough listening to it!"
....but isn't that what cds and mp3s are for?
"It seems like those television-makers did listen to the german guy: "don't enjoy music, just listen to it to learn your
life's lessons out of it""
I can't remember him(stockhausen) saying that you must not enjoy the music, John Cage even said the complete opposite. I do agree that Stockhausen sometimes has a little trouble expressing what he really means(remember his comments about the WTC disaster?), possibly because he's old. I think the film didn't just show a singular opinion on music but let everyone explain their approach:
- Stockhausen: generate tones from the ground up, create new rules in music to stimulate thought
- Pierre Henry: take sounds from your environment, music is just a game
- Squarepusher: his music is made instinctively - John Cage: Music should always be about enjoyment, he didn't like tradition
- Merzbow: he likes overstimulating the senses, music is about pain too
- Spooky: tradition plays an important role, things should compliment eachother and not replace eachother
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-07-02 03:13 [#00764721]
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the pusher just fiddles buttons and makes a track :)
uuhh yeah i dont know... uhh take that synth for example.. it plays bleeps at a different.. uhh.. pitch ..yeah dont know how it works, you hear different bleeps with a different volume
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-07-02 03:14 [#00764722]
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hoe dichter bij de nul hoe strakker om je lul..
ofzo...
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-07-02 05:56 [#00764829]
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"saying that you must not enjoy the music,"
I don't think he did. But he only talked about the technical aspects, never about the fun he had with it or the beauty of the music.
And i don't know anything about stockhausen, so maybe he is also very passionate about music. Maybe he did talk about it, but they cut all that out to make the program focussed on the technical side.
Either way i didn't really enjoy it.
"....but isn't that what cds and mp3s are for?"
Sure... but still. It wouldn't have hurt to also have a little more music on the show. Just because cd's are specifically meant for that, doesn't mean other media can't play music aswell.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-07-02 12:41 [#00765248]
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ok so who was the git with the guitar and the mixer? Merzbow or squarepusher?
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-07-02 12:54 [#00765258]
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squarepusher......merzbow is the japanese guy at the end of the programme.
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2003-07-02 13:50 [#00765303]
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Yeah, so like, that french dude and the german guy, they were absolute nerds. I hated their music and especially their point of view on music. I mean wtf man! "It's not good to fall asleep while listening to music, or dance to it" or whatever he said. "You should all sit down and listen to it, just listen."
Bullshit! It's very important to dance to music. Yeah sure, you can have nice times just listening to it, but dancing to it and stuff is important too. And that german guy's 'piece', yunno with all the noise and that japanese woman, that sucked big time!
I did agree with dj spooky's point of view. My god, that guy's intelligent and he's sooo right.
Tom was a bit vague imo, especially that stuff he said about buying one and leaving the other 99. I'm not sure if he even understood himself there.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-07-02 14:01 [#00765308]
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Speaking of Stockhausen : Clic.
Also, you should keep in mind that Karlheinz Stockhausen and Pierre Henry are classical, academic composer, whereas the others make "pop music". That could explain their different points of view...
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2003-07-02 14:11 [#00765318]
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without stockhauzen we wont be at this point, in electronic music and i love the way they all speak about electronic music especially Dj spooky :)
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-07-02 14:26 [#00765344]
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no offence to TJ but I think it would have been even better if Sean and Rob were in this show...
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2003-07-02 15:09 [#00765403]
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im stil looking for a documentary called "cinema for the ear - Modulation" all the big names appear in this documentary, somebody in here that can tell me how i can get it?? please
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-07-02 17:25 [#00765552]
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I did like how "TJ" got totally absorbed in what he was doing... I mean man did you see his face?
I don't think there's going to be alot more truly groundbreaking, original new music though, everything's all derivative nowadays.
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2003-07-03 03:29 [#00765804]
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someone else would've come up with the same idea. That stuff was going on more back then, he was just the one who made it finally happen.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-07-03 03:53 [#00765808]
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hahah yeah he looked like he had trouble with all the questions.. as if he was stupid or somethin'....
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-07-03 07:28 [#00765967]
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I think he referred to Tom's face while performing :)
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-07-03 07:31 [#00765972]
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oh yeah..
well he looked like a nutcase there too
now i REALLY want to see him live sometime
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wilcoooo
from Sydney (Belgium) on 2003-07-03 11:22 [#00766207]
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jaaaaaaaaaaa, dat heb ik weer gemist. was het de moeite of was het niet bijzonder?
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-03 19:45 [#00766596]
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FOK. ook gemist en nog niks gevonden op de saait.
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