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         |  Shatterproof
             from xltronic messageboard on 2003-06-29 10:28 [#00761764] Points: 361 Status: Addict
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 | What's your definition of Music? Noise Music?
 Is Noise Music Music?
 
 
 
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         |  tolstoyed
             from the ocean on 2003-06-29 10:30 [#00761767] Points: 50073 Status: Moderator
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 | basically anything with rhythm...even the most extreme noise music has some rhythm imo
 
 
 
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         |  rockenjohnny
             from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-06-29 10:31 [#00761769] Points: 7983 Status: Lurker
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 | all i want is a groove 
 
 
 
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         |  corticalstim
             from Canada on 2003-06-29 10:31 [#00761770] Points: 3885 Status: Regular
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 | what about the most extreme minimal music? there are many minimal tracks with absolutely no rhythm, for example, mr.
 cage.
 
 
 
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         |  Spacecadet
             on 2003-06-29 10:32 [#00761771] Points: 1790 Status: Lurker
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 | noise = sound or sounds that are unplesant, undesired or unexpected
 
 music = The art of arranging sounds in time so as to produce
 a continuous, unified, and evocative composition, as through
 melody, harmony, rhythm, and timbre.
 Vocal or instrumental sounds possessing a degree of melody,
 harmony, or rhythm.
 
 
 
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         |  DJ Xammax
             from not America on 2003-06-29 10:32 [#00761772] Points: 11512 Status: Lurker
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 | MUSIC IS ORGANIZED SOUND 
 
 
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         |  Laserbeak
             from Netherlands, The on 2003-06-29 10:32 [#00761773] Points: 2670 Status: Lurker
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 | audio art 
 
 
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         |  Skink
             from A cesspool in eden on 2003-06-29 10:33 [#00761776] Points: 7483 Status: Lurker
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 | Every little noise has a note and a frequency so music is anything you want it to be.
 
 
 
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         |  Shatterproof
             from xltronic messageboard on 2003-06-29 10:34 [#00761777] Points: 361 Status: Addict
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 | What is ART? Define ART. 
 
 
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         |  Anus_Presley
             on 2003-06-29 10:35 [#00761778] Points: 23472 Status: Lurker
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 | i don't carre 
 
 
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         |  corrupted-girl
             on 2003-06-29 10:37 [#00761780] Points: 8469 Status: Regular | Followup to DJ Xammax: #00761772
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 | agreed. 
 
 
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         |  Skink
             from A cesspool in eden on 2003-06-29 10:37 [#00761781] Points: 7483 Status: Lurker
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 | I don't see the point in defining things really esspecially art.
 
 
 
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         |  Anus_Presley
             on 2003-06-29 10:38 [#00761782] Points: 23472 Status: Lurker | Followup to DJ Xammax: #00761772
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 | in that case my talking now is. 
 
 
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         |  Shatterproof
             from xltronic messageboard on 2003-06-29 10:41 [#00761787] Points: 361 Status: Addict | Followup to Anus_Presley: #00761778
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 | discuss 
 
 
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         |  Anus_Presley
             on 2003-06-29 10:42 [#00761788] Points: 23472 Status: Lurker
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 | "Define Music! " 
 fuck i hate this thrread. i rreally do.
 
 
 
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         |  Spacecadet
             on 2003-06-29 10:42 [#00761789] Points: 1790 Status: Lurker
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 | i've always thought that art is something (music, paintings, performance, sculpture etc) that provokes a reaction, be it
 either positive or negative
 
 
 
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         |  Shatterproof
             from xltronic messageboard on 2003-06-29 10:58 [#00761814] Points: 361 Status: Addict | Followup to Anus_Presley: #00761788
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 | Define hatred 
 
 
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         |  TonePu5her
             from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-29 11:06 [#00761821] Points: 3640 Status: Regular
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 | Music the art of arranging sounds in time so as to produce a continuous, unified, and evocative composition, as through
 melody, harmony, rhythm, and timbre.
 
 
 
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         |  Jazembo
             from The Earth ball on 2003-06-29 12:05 [#00761855] Points: 2788 Status: Regular
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 | MUSIC = LIFE 
 
 
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         |  dariusgriffin
             from cool on 2003-06-29 12:06 [#00761857] Points: 12516 Status: Lurker
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 | Anything said to be music is music, anything said to be art is art.
 
 
 
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         |  rockenjohnny
             from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-06-29 12:07 [#00761858] Points: 7983 Status: Lurker | Followup to dariusgriffin: #00761857
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 | i agree. if i wore my carpet as pants, its still pants. 
 
 
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         |  rockenjohnny
             from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-06-29 12:07 [#00761860] Points: 7983 Status: Lurker | Followup to rockenjohnny: #00761858
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 | but its also carpet :] 
 
 
 
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         |  dariusgriffin
             from cool on 2003-06-29 12:09 [#00761862] Points: 12516 Status: Lurker | Followup to rockenjohnny: #00761858
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 | Hah, great analogy. 
 
 
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         |  Shatterproof
             from xltronic messageboard on 2003-06-29 13:25 [#00761919] Points: 361 Status: Addict
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 | i disagree! analogy = analogy 
 
 
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         |  glasse
             from Harrisburg (United States) on 2003-06-29 19:59 [#00762201] Points: 4211 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
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 | It is so subjective to really be able to define. 
 A circle might be considered a group of people who all enjoy
 a similar genre of music and art, both making, appreciating
 or both.  Certain qualities in the art or music may have
 more success than others, creating standards, and then the
 genre evolves and generally splits into sub-genres because
 people start tending towards different qualities and
 characteristics and want to emphasize those and suppress
 others.
 
 The ecclectic can enjoy and/or tolerate a wide selection of
 qualities or characteristics, while the purest generally
 sticks to a smaller group of qualities and is less
 interested in hybrids.
 
 This has been the first lesson in genre and preference 101.
 
 Some questions for you to think about at home:
 
 a) how does this relate to the discussion concerning noise
 and music?
 
 b) when I choose to take interest in an artist, due to
 qualities and characteristics that artist exhibits in their
 music and/or art, how willing am I to continue on with that
 artist when they tend towards qualities that do not match my
 preference?
 
 c) do milk and ceral bars have enough real milk flavor to
 provide a helpful alternative in today's fast pased
 society?
 
 
 
 
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