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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-06-27 13:22 [#00759659]
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OK, I hope no-one minds me starting a topic on drugs. Moderators, please close the topic if this is against the rules......
I'm no pothead. I sometimes dabble, but only occasionally and usually I don't even enjoy it that much. But I'm quite sure I can recognise a cannabis plant. I've seen a few in my time.
As I have mentioned a lot in recent posts, I am currently living in Lithuania. Recently when I have been walking through the city in which I live (Vilnius) or cycling in the surrounding countryside I have seen what I am quite sure are cannabis (marijuana) plants, growing wild.
I've seen quite a few small ones growing alone at the sides of roads. I've also seen someone's back garden which had quite a lot growing in it. And today I saw a load of them by a farmer's house.
My questions are:
- Am I just foolishly mistaken? Would cannabis grow outdoors in a Northern European climate (Lithuania has very cold winters, but quite hot sunny summers)
- Could it be that they are hemp plants? And if this is the case, do hemp plants produce the drug that gets you high in marijuana?
- If I was to pick any of these plants, what would I need to do to get high? Is it true that only the female plant produces the drug? How do you recognise male from female? Will just smoking the dried leaves get me high?
- Most of these plants are growing next to roads or in gardens near to roads. There are a LOT of cars in the city, and I think a lot of them run on leaded petrol. If I was to smoke weed from these plants, would it be full of dangerous pollutants that the plants have absorbed from the local atmosphere?
Thanks in advance!
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-06-27 13:26 [#00759663]
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We grow hemp in Sweden... now legally to =)
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-06-27 13:26 [#00759664]
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Isn't it THC that gets you high?
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-06-27 13:26 [#00759665]
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this should help maybe
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-06-27 13:27 [#00759667]
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you can't just smoke a plant is the point, so check out the cultivation tips
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-06-27 13:31 [#00759670]
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Hemp is usually made from the male pot plant. (correct me if wrong). Female plants contain the THC you are looking for. You can usually tell by the stems.
Pot thrives in 70-85 degree wheather. Temp usually effects growth. Depending on the weather it will yeild bigger buds.
You would need the Bud parts to get high. it looks like a fucking donkey dick at the top of the plant
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-06-27 13:33 [#00759672]
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I am proud to say I can answer all of your questions, and I don't think you should be shy about starting drug topics, I've seen many worse ones before.....but anyway,....
1) Yes, some marijuana plants (especially the rare genus Ruderalis) have adapted quite well to colder climates and shorter flowering seasons.
2) A marijuana plant and a hemp plant are the same thing in itself. Normally, male plants are used for stalks, leaves, etc. for "hemp". Female plants are used for flowers, buds, resin, hash, etc....
3) A female plant will clearly show signs of budding, and white frilly hairs called "trichromes". If these hairs become amberish, reddish color, and the buds are somewhat thick, then the plant is ready for harvest and can be dried/smoked. A male plant will show signs of little budding, wispy leaves and small "balls" around the budding nodes. the male plants do not have capability of producing high amounts of THC (the chemical to get high), but they do produce some, varying on the type of plant/species/growing. Smoking dried leaves that have been crushed up finely, especially from a female plant, can produce quite a pleasant, uplifting high.
4) Most likely these plants will probably not absorb any bad chemicals.....they mainly absorb everything they need from the soil,....and they probably would have died or looked unhealthy (did they?), if they DID absorb any chemicals.....
:)
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Atli
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-06-27 13:40 [#00759676]
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there is, on the other hand, a wild plant (i can't remember the name), which grows wild in many places in Europe that looks alot like marijuana.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-06-27 13:42 [#00759679]
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WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!!! since when did it become legal to grown in Sweden??!?!?!?!?!?!
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-06-27 13:51 [#00759689]
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Without THC that is.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-06-27 13:53 [#00759690]
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ah...*sigh*....
what am i talking about...I'M NOT SMOKING ANYMORE, SO WHY AM I LIGHTING UP AS A CHRISTMAS-TREE EVERY TIME SOMEONE MENTIONS WEED??? ...sorry for the caps...but that's how i feel
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-06-27 14:07 [#00759691]
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can you use a black light instead of a flourescent light?
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-06-27 14:09 [#00759694]
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like for growing i mean
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-06-27 14:11 [#00759696]
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i wouldn't reccomend it. the closer to actual sunlight the better i say. But that is just personal opinion
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-06-27 14:23 [#00759700]
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growing under a black light doesn't work so good. i tried it once in college, growing a few plants in a closet with just a black light. they grew up real tall real fast but could not support their own weight and bent over. we tried bracing them with sticks but they eventually just died.
as for growing wild, here in the greater seattle area, pot will grow outside with very little help. the weather is rainy and moderate temp. it literally is a weed which means it will grow with almost no encouragement.
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-06-27 15:42 [#00759755]
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a blacklight only has a minute blue area of the spectrum....
marijuana plants need red and blue areas of the spectrum.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-06-27 16:12 [#00759804]
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damn
eh, i'll do it anyways, everything else is already in the house, i'm just experimenting
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-06-27 16:15 [#00759811]
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ziggomatic is exactly right
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-06-27 16:16 [#00759813]
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thank you ver much
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-27 18:52 [#00760017]
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welcome to xlchronic.com
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-06-27 21:05 [#00760242]
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word up mutha fucka.
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2003-06-27 23:25 [#00760318]
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wish i could pluck some fresh buds off some wild plants.
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Spacecadet
on 2003-06-28 02:22 [#00760420]
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man, i've heard some wonderful tales of wild plants in jamaica......
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2003-06-28 05:37 [#00760532]
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funny! you have internet man, there are loads of tons of sites which contain this i would say most basic information. i cant believe you didnt know these answers already.
those plants smell sooo good!
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-06-28 07:59 [#00760634]
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It's hemp (same as marijuana but with lesser psychedelic effects). We have tonnes of it growing in Canada too. Hell, we even had some in the back fields of my high school.
You could try smoking it - there is THC in hemp, but you'd probably have to smoke a shit-load. (quantitity of THC varies from species and "strain").
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celloncllone
from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2003-06-28 08:51 [#00760656]
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the strongest hit would probably be smoked through a bong...joints don't hit u as hard from the moment u inhale, but do the job.
if u were to pick some buds/leaves, get around 5gm and stick it in the microwave for a couple of seconds to dry em.....then smoke and see what happens : )
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azatoth233
from tku (Finland) on 2003-06-28 09:00 [#00760659]
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microwaved weed tastes horrible..
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-06-28 11:54 [#00760774]
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use the oven...microwaves can cause genetic mutation - and you don't want to be altering the precious THC in your grass. Throw the oven on low, and put some on a sheet of tin foil for a couple of minutes.
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-06-28 12:33 [#00760807]
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you could always even wait longer like a week to dry and cure them....
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-06-28 12:34 [#00760809]
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it's been proven to increase potency, lavor, and smokability....
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-28 12:35 [#00760813]
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yeah just let your weed cure. fuck microwaving it.
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-06-28 12:35 [#00760815]
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lavor?......flavor
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phiz
from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-28 12:42 [#00760830]
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just dont cut any of them plants down yet, they'll be ready around august.
but you should be able to tell their sex now. simple rule, males have balls, lots of them, females have white hair like tendrils.
chances are if they are wild there might be male and female in the area, in which case you'll end up with pollinated females anyway.
so, just sit and wait and see if mother nature gives you a little freebie
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-06-28 12:56 [#00760848]
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You never really know with wild shit, I've come across alot around here and used to try to smoke it when I was young and foolish, but it's usually not even worth the trouble for such shitty ditch weed.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-06-28 16:17 [#00761209]
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So if the females get pollinated then you can't smoke it?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-28 16:29 [#00761236]
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going out for some domestic type...brb :)
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phiz
from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-02 05:08 [#00764775]
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if the female is pollinated it creates a hemaphrodite type plant, half male half female, alot less stronger, smokeable but not very strong at all
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-02 07:01 [#00764879]
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update
one of my seeds has germinated and my friend gave me a flourescent bulb. things will be going good real soon
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-02 07:06 [#00764883]
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If you smoke the male plant does that make you gay?
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-07-02 07:11 [#00764889]
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It depends if you make a habit of it. If you just try it once or twice, I think you could describe yourself as "just curious".
Update: I tried smoking the leaves from one of these plants the other night. Dried them out in the oven first. No noticeable effect whatsoever. Anyway, who cares. I wish I hadn't started this thread now because I regard marijuana/drugs as one of the most boring topics of conversation in existence.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-02 07:26 [#00764900]
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no dude you don't smoke the leaves! you smoke the buds!
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2003-07-02 12:44 [#00765250]
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smoke bud
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-07-02 21:58 [#00765700]
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"if the female is pollinated it creates a hemaphrodite type
plant, half male half female, alot less stronger, smokeable
but not very strong at all"
this is incorrect, a pollinated female plant will devote its energy to producing seeds instead of generating more flowers (clusters of which are known as buds, groups of buds are known as colas), but will still have significant potency. the seeds, of course, should not be smoked.
hermaphroditism is common, and is a consequence of a plant's genetics and can be triggered by stress.
if you do try to grow cannabis for smoking, you will of course conduct the appropriate research first to increase the likelihood of success.
wild cannabis is likely to be genetically related to strains that have been bred for use in fabric, rope, etc. these strains are very low in psychoactive agents.
most importantly, in general you should consider the information about cannabis on music messageboards unreliable.
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phiz
from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-05 11:42 [#00767852]
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i stand corrected but remain seated
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-07-05 12:23 [#00767862]
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get some Miracle Grow for tomatoes. it works wonders!
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