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i thought this cd was supposed to b made COMPLETELY of natural sounds? |
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It is. |
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hmmm weird so he just majorly tweaked the sounds then i really disappointed so far. :/ |
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everything is possible with today's music technology. |
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and that makes things SO lame. instead of using his brain, snares used his software. yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn. he could've so easily made tracks using the real sounds, not filtered to oblivion. weak artist. |
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"weak artist" i totally agree, but i love getting crazy to his music :) |
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me too, his tracks are great and he's a strong programmer. just not creative (enough to warrant his hype). |
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if everything goes right i'll be seeing him this september in rome my first time seeing snares btw |
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i agree again hehe not much to his music...just mad stuff - which is great ofcourse |
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bootleg the show. i will give you money. and this whole software/brain thing is kind of a blackhole, you can use your brain to make music but you'd have to do it through hardware/software. and you can use software but you have to use your brain to use it. it's a no win situation. |
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im not holding the mic...if i'll be accompanied by someone that will be willing to stand still the whole time we'll bootleg it :) btw, did you check those bootlegs on funk's site? i love that dresden one (and the quality is pretty amazing for a live thing) |
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mr. funk gives the people what they need: terrifyingly fast breaks... there isn't another artist in the game who's released as many choice cuts as he has in the last 3 years... and having heard his progression through to his last full length Witboas, which is a much more calculated affair... i have much hope for his future releases... |
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agreed |
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i was just hoping for more humanized sonds, not just moaning etc. i want a 143bpm assslappin beat |
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and he could've easily done it but he decided to filter the sounds beyond recognition |
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thats a pretty bold to say snares isn't creative. compared to who? i can't think of many folks who are nearly as creative + able to make amazing sounding trax... |
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compared to artists who can not only program fast beats but offer something interesting in the melodic, rhtyhmic (ie: not just a barrage of snare rushes), and timbral department. |
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or compared to someone who, when promised an album made up entirely of samples from sex, RELEASES an album where the sounds are easily recognizable. you could filter the sounds of wheels squeeling into a beat but why bother if the listener will never know what it was? nymphomatriarch is a missed opportunity. |
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not creative in a way of releasing stuff-he's probably the most creative guy when it comes to that but in a way that he's music is really not much more than something that makes you go mental, which is great...tho when it comes to musical creativity he's really not in the league of the top idm producers (IMO) or at least i dont find it that way |
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yeah, i'm not that into it, it's ok, but i'm not even sure if id want it on vinyl anymore |
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Yep. Same with Nunu... some recognisable insect sounds as percussive elements, but slowed down, filtered, delayed etc. to oblivion for background "synth" sounds. When I told my dad about this release he was really excited, but when I played it to him he thought it was a bit of a cheat when I explained what the background was (he didn't believe it was insect noise). |
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i thought "nunu" was more creative than what i've heard from nymphomatriarch.. but that's what i mean about "lazy artist." sure, it's a kicking new track, but really it sounds like everything else you did, why even mention they're "sex sounds" if you're just going to distort them to holy heck. it's cheating, like your dad says. |
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ah, how nice, your dad is into snares with you. let me guess: jazz theroist? |
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while i you described music that i, and most people like, i don't think that makes snares un-creative because his music isn't really rooted in that. i can't think of many other artists who are doing things more creative rhythmically. he works in time sigs that very few other artists in electronic music even attempt, and does them well (to my ears). he's got dozens of trax with crazy, strange, and inventive concepts. i don't think theres any need to say one artist is the best, because enjoying alot of different artists and music is part of the joy of music, but i just wonder what amazing artists i'm missing if snares isn't creative.... i haven't heard nymphomatriarch yet, so i can't really comment on that. but i certainly didn't/don't expect it to sound like an album of sex sounds. |
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what is Nunu? |
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last album by mira calix i think (i know i have it, but i dont remember if it is called nanu hehe) |
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you're forgetting that i like snares too, i just don't find him very creative. creativity is not why i listen to him. still, he had an opportunity to do something creative with this project and he botched it. it's SUPPOSED to be an album of sex sounds, why shouldn't you hear it? what snares is doing rhythmically is interesting but not that creative. it's fast and intricate, but it's not unique and he doesn't have a profound rhythmic sense. people who just spend as much time obsessing over the beat patterns as snares are ending up with extremely comparable material (see enduser and /dev/null, among others). |
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Its the simplicity which does it - there be raw emotion in them thar beats. I don't really give a fuck where the soundz originate just as long as it works. look what mozart, beethoven etc did with just a piano. |
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"and he doesn't have a profound rhythmic sense" huh, i totally disagree with this! :) |
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not compared to a whole slew of jazz drummers out there |
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Nah, it's a Mira Calix album. He is a jazz fan. He likes Boards of Canada and LFO too. |
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i agree with titsworth. ya just got to bring up the squarepusher/vsnares comparisons.... squarepusher keeps the rythmns and musicality and the craziness. VSnare just has crazyness and melodies.... i like em both but... squarepusher shocks me with his musical talent, VSares doesn´t |
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agree completely, tho i've given vsnares a lot more listens lately than anything squarepusher's released after music is rotted one note (minus go plastic which is arguably his best album) |
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i dont like pusher's pre-go plastic stuff at all i never listen to those older albums actually, perhaps when im older :) i agree tunes by snares are just not stuctured the way squarpusher's are i love venetian snares tho! |
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go plastic is better than rotted one note and feed me weird things? |
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i said arguably. tastes change. |
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go plastic is my favourite album, together with drukqs and bilious paths feed me weird things is just not my thing (yet) |
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Yes Pusher be talented but Snares gets listened to more why cause it's got gimmick and purpose- me I don't think vsnares is crazy at all - It seems conservatively logical to me. The logic emmitting deliberate emotion. What purpose? Give me some old time love songs. |
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I don't really like Squarepusher at all, I have Music Is Rotted One Note, and it's likely to be an album I appreciate when I'm 40 and really sad. Go Plastic is mediocre, and I feel it gets worse with every listen... sounds repetetive and generally boring. ----- Venetian Snares is something totally different, I listen to it (I only have Higgins) to feed that rebellious side of me. The side of me that wants super high-speed drum programming and a general in-your-face attitude.. Overall: Squarepusher: Go away Venetian Snares: Yes please |
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Yes pushers new one only got like 4 days of listening whilst witboas gets atleast one listen a day for the 3 weeks. what about making orange things I feel that this will go down in history as a masterpiece. |
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i can respect people's opinions...because thats pretty much what it boils down to. but i have to wonder what people think is really creative if snares isn't creative. like specific examples. |
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bilious paths or drukqs are a perfect examples of creativity for me...i can name more if you want (i'll reply later tho as i'll be going home soon) |
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maybe skill and creativity to you are synonymous, but to me there's a difference. |
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thanks for the xanopticon recomendation on the hardcore snares thread. forget who it was. |
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no, not at all. i think alot of artists are skilled but not creative. for example, bad company (the d&b producers) are amazingly skilled at writing d&b tracks. but not very creative. then you've got people like stuntrock or animals within animals, who are very creative, but not super skilled at making trax. i think snares is both. not necessarily the best ever, but quite good. thats why i was looking for specific examples of creative artists. if i'm missing out i'd like to know. |
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"i think snares is both. not necessarily the best ever, but quite good.2" i can agree with this :) |
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You are all wrong , pushers latest release (minus the crappy live disc) is superior. Nuff said! =) VS is miles away from creating anything as inovative (and uber Whicked ) as for example "Kill Roboc" or "Mutilation colony" But he is trying tho , experimenting like hell and he isn't there yet but there is hope. I love VS music too and i respect his very vital mad skillz but on the same level as Tolstoyed described. |
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grrrrrrr..... ok, i haven't heard nympho yet. But i neeed to say something. . . maybe, stop with the fucking comparisons already! There are people saying they like snares but think he's 'not creative'??? Also, 'real sounds'.... what the fuck? vsnares makes music like no other... Whether you enjoy it or not bla bla bla bla...... |
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uh right last i checked i could write and believe whatever i want |
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for all our sakes... i hope funk delivers on the promise he shows... i haven't heard nymphomatriarchs yet... but everything else he's put out this year has been quite tasty... and i'm definitely looking forward to his next planet mu album... |
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