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offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-25 14:36 [#00756797]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker



or something.

RIAA Goes Bonkers


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-06-25 14:39 [#00756800]
Points: 5437 Status: Regular



what i want to know is whether or not the riaa is hunting
down users who have riaa affiliated music... or if they even
care , and it's just about whether or not yoiu have
thousands of mp3 files on your pc...


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-25 14:40 [#00756802]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker



probably just RIAA music.

otherwise they probably dont care.. its not their money


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-06-25 14:42 [#00756803]
Points: 7210 Status: Lurker



those fucking nazis


 

offline diablo on 2003-06-25 14:42 [#00756806]
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"It's stealing. It's both wrong and illegal," Sherman said.


"Meh mehmeh. Meh meh meh meh mehmehmeh." A Twat, yesterday.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-06-25 14:43 [#00756807]
Points: 5437 Status: Regular



well in that case i don't give a rat's ass cause i have very
little... riaa affiliated music (as in one album: Buck 65's
Square)


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2003-06-25 14:48 [#00756812]
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Yes, this will solve all the problems regarding music and
technology


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2003-06-25 14:51 [#00756814]
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The next music p2p services will be completely encrypted and
anonymous.

We were raped for so long and now we are fighting back. If
we lose a few soldiers in the ground war their sacrifice
will not be forgotten and we shall have our revenge on the
music industry.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-25 14:52 [#00756816]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker



hehehe


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-25 14:53 [#00756817]
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when are they going to learn? making mp3s illegal isnt going
to deter us.

nor will sueing us.

we have entered a new era... technology. piracy is
unavoidable.

they should just reconfigure their game plan to cope with it


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-06-25 14:56 [#00756824]
Points: 5437 Status: Regular



REMEMBER BRIAN WILSON! REMEMBER BIG RECORD LABELS RAPE ART!


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-25 15:35 [#00756908]
Points: 1649 Status: Regular | Followup to BlatantEcho: #00756803



i think artists and record labels should get paiid for the
hard work they do and i feel that mp3ing is defintley
stealing - there is no doubt about that - whatever way is
there to look at it ?
but then again prces are too high and choices are too low -
we get loadsof crap shoved in our faces whilst small labels
who are doing it for love rather than profit loose out
masivley -
the riaa only protects the conglomerates who rule the music
industry - i'msure they're not going after soulseek who
mainly provide mp3's of music from labels who can't afford
to loose funds from mp3ing.



 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-25 15:36 [#00756909]
Points: 1649 Status: Regular | Followup to Monoid: #00756814



you weren't raped - you had to pay for music you wanted .
that's not being raped.


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2003-06-25 15:40 [#00756914]
Points: 6265 Status: Addict



how are they going to sue a 15yold for the money they lose
what morons
ha ha


 

offline Spacecadet on 2003-06-25 15:43 [#00756921]
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i think with independant music it's important to buy
releases so small labels can afford to release more
material, in the case of larger record labels (virgin, sony,
etc) then fine, they make enough money off timberlake and
madonna and the like


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-25 15:43 [#00756922]
Points: 1649 Status: Regular | Followup to nobsmuggler: #00756914



exactly - they need prevention rather than cure and that
might involve putting a bit of effort into the way they
market and sell records.
like stop giving wankers like robbie williams 90 million
quid so you don't have enuff cash to invest in new exciting
bands - for every big rich star offered large amounts of
cash thousands of bands loose out on a chance .
its time all thee dinosaurs were pt to sleep really - lazy
old fuckers


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-25 15:44 [#00756925]
Points: 1649 Status: Regular | Followup to Spacecadet: #00756921



yeah i think you are right there - so many small labels are
droppimg off nowdays


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-06-25 16:27 [#00756991]
Points: 5437 Status: Regular



p2p programs are the best thing to happen to a large amount
of smaller labels... the cd and vinyl collections of many,
many, many people i know can be attributed to the ability to
find and listen to obscure artists online... not to mention
the profits (the real profits) these artists make when they
come to town...


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-25 16:46 [#00757007]
Points: 1649 Status: Regular | Followup to DeadEight: #00756991



absolutley but the funds to come to town have to come from
somewhere and alot of smaller labels especially in the uk
rely on stuff like the british council to organise tours for
them - if you look in the wire stuff they did like the
japonarama tour ages ago and other things are funded by
them.


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2003-06-25 16:51 [#00757015]
Points: 2901 Status: Lurker | Followup to astrid-gil-botn: #00756908



So tell me how is ridiculously overpricing CD's not
stealing?



 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-25 17:08 [#00757047]
Points: 1649 Status: Regular | Followup to X-tomatic: #00757015



because it's not a dishonest the act of appropriation of
property belonging to another with a an intention to
deprive another of it - which is the uk definition of theft
and through the rules of copyright law is what mp3ing is -
hence all that stuff written on cd's.

When you buy a cd none of these things come into effect -
you honestly purchase a cd - it's your choice to buy it and
your receipt is the binding contract between you and the
seller.
i did say that prices were too high though .


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2003-06-25 17:39 [#00757107]
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Yeah uh, I hate Robbie Willams. But , my dad actually bought
his album *sigh*


 

offline Smyrma from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2003-06-25 21:35 [#00757290]
Points: 2478 Status: Lurker | Followup to X-tomatic: #00757015



Overpricing CDs is stealing. There was a ruling that
decided that. Therefore, everyone who signed up on the
settlement's website will be awarded thirteen dollars.


 

offline joakimlinden from Skövde (Sweden) on 2003-06-25 22:37 [#00757329]
Points: 462 Status: Regular



The industry often claims that the mp3'ers are hurting the
Artists, but the artists are actually being hurt by the
record industry in most cases, with perversely low deals and
with ultimatums about the artists image, look, sound...you
know what I mean.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-06-25 22:41 [#00757335]
Points: 5437 Status: Regular



the more the mainstream tries to force shameless
commercialism down the tubes, the more people will go
elsewhere... the reason why sales are lagging is because
everyone knows that the only songs they're gonna like are
the singles... the rest of the album is filler... until
labels start nurturing artists and not bankbooks sales are
going to lag, and lag, and lag... boycott the riaa...
they've been killing music for far too long...


 

offline Pigfarmer from Ipswich (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-26 03:32 [#00757472]
Points: 589 Status: Lurker



I always buy the albums I like cause Im a collector. But I
think that the record industry should make their product
more attractive instead of whining and sueing. I mean why
are all booklets getting smaller all the time? Why are there
no lyrics in it? Why is a bonus DVD or something a big
exception? In every other industry that its the next logical
step to do to win customers back.




 

offline merg from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-06-26 03:47 [#00757478]
Points: 1708 Status: Regular | Followup to Pigfarmer: #00757472



Good points, well made...


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-26 03:56 [#00757482]
Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag



Pigfarmer is wise- the correct response to P2P networks
would be to make the product more desirable, a portion of
the profits going to a charity, quality cover art or sleeve
notes. Perhaps tokens included in releases redeemable for
t-shirts, promotional items, reduced price gig entry- that
sort of thing. Alternately masses of information like a DVD
full of 320kbps MP3s by an artists which would be
impractical to download.

Also they need to grow up- music sharing has been around for
years- people have always found new music from tapes given
to them by friends etc. the fact it's now done in the
digital domain simply makes it easier to monitor.


 


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