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Yep I've quit making music. Mainly due to Floops. I just can't do it.I can't get my head round all these fancy contraptions,I remember the days of just clicking various samples and making a track. But now we have all these,Vsti's,plug-ins and what'da'ya'callits. I can't do it,and I give up. |
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Don't give up that's for tossers. |
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But I just don't understand these programes. I've heard Floops is the easiest programme to use,and thats too hard for me. |
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now thats the spirit.. you know, you dont need fancy programs and plug-ins to make music... but i suppose if not being able to figure out the programs is enough to stop you from making music entirely.. then you probably might as well... it takes much longer to learn how to use actual instruments.. and if you cant be bothered to spend a few months learning basic programs, then making music probably isnt very important to you. dont worry, im sure you'll find something else that requires less effort to occupy your time. |
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Dont force it. If you havent got it why waste your time on it.... Play some footie instead..thats pretty easy to understand. |
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Ah man don't stop! I have to use a shoddy old cracked version of cubase which I hate and find REAL fiddley and it gets in the way of the music but.. if/when my music stops I think I might :( Use something else. You can make sounds out of anything. Me and my mate Phil made this wicked track out of a £10 kids keyboard from Cash Converters :P |
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I'm determined now..... I can't give up. |
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not knowing what your doing is half the fun! |
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whinge whinge whinge |
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go hardware! |
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resolve to appreciate your journey, and don't waste your time worrying or criticizing yourself. keep exploring, keep trying new things, and don't be afraid to simplify. i was nearly computer illiterate when a friend gave me a crack of rebirth in 1997, and without a manual and without internet access i wasn't sure what the hell i was supposed to do with it, felt like an idiot. when i think of what a simple program it is i have to laugh, and in a year, you'll look back and laugh, too. then you'll listen to a killer track you made, and you'll be glad you didn't give up. |
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just don't use all the plug-ins. |
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just take a break for a while. watch movies. listen to good music. smoke pot. play online poker. this regiment has helped me out of many writing slumps. |
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also, don't rely on just floops. i only use fruity loops as a sketch pad. i make a bunch of simple drum loops and melodies and then dump all the samples out into ACID and do all my editing there. when you get stuck, pick up a guitar or something and just jam out, fuck around and experiment. |
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I'll be the only one to say there ain't no shame in packing up your shit and skipping town. Really, you tried, it didn't work out, so what? NEXT! No one can say you didn't try, you aren't a quiter, you cut your losses on something and have moved on. Sorry mate, I just don't see any shame in pulling up stakes and leaving. |
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HEY!!! |
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btw: this also stems from me lately just wanting to get over the idea that I'll never make the killer music I want to make, and you know what? That's cool by me. I tried, had moderate success in my mind, learned a lot, but shit, I'd like to be RDJ #2, but it ain't happening. Other things abound that I can sink my teeth into. You really can't go forcing something if it's just not right. |
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yeah don't reach for the sky! bend over and reach for your knees! |
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you can do it and you don't give up. |
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the cracked rebirth demo was my first love too, in around 1997. i then progrseed onto Fruity loops, and am now using cubase/reason, and an akai sampler 3000xl rebirth changed my life!!! |
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Do something with what you know... it won't be brilliant yet because you don't have mastery over what you're working with. All my music is half experimentation and half learning how to put sounds together. Fruityloops is pretty overwhelming when you get down to it... it's more powerful than people give it credit for, but here's the kicker It's not EASY to do the things you want to do. That's exactly why most musicians move to Cubase SX or Reason 2.0 as their next stepping block. My recommendation: Use what you know and add ONE thing. Then when you're done with a loop, try another thing. Experiment slowly and learn whatever you're using well. You might not produce quality music right off, but you're learning something more important, the tool you've chosen. And you'll be able to use that in your piece and know what it does. Don't give up unless you find music just isn't doing it for you, and move on to something else for a while. Take a break, go kick back |
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Floops is NOT the easiest program to use. It is one of the easiest programs to get started on, although I'd say Reason is easier in most respects. That is all |
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that's not what I meant. I mean, what if you suck at painting, but you really want to be DaVinci? I mean, you work at it all day for so long, and you still can't paint wax fruit. at some point, you ain't bad to look at where you are, and reconsider what you want to do. I'm not a fan of giving up, but shit, don't kill yourself over something that frustrates you, and what not. you can only do so much. |
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haha, not knowing what you're doing is half the fun....very true... but i don't know jackshit about cubase sx/reason 2 either, i still take the small amount of time i have and read up about how basic things work.....like what a vst plug-in is, what a machine does, etc... it's a steep learning curve, but u'll get it |
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we all got yo bak ace |
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jeez, you gotta put in the hard work, people slag off electronic music because 'anyone can do it' programs like dance e-jay give it a bad name. it's alot harder learning the ins and outs of cubase or logic than anyone would think until you do it |
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I want to make music so badly. I have reason 2.0 and cubase SX, but I just don't know what end is up, and I've spent virtually no time trying to get started. I'm a fucking bum doomed to a sucky life |
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I can't stand that "anyone can do it" garbage either. No, not just anyone can do it. There is a lot of shit out there. Making anything (music, art, etc.) is hard. |
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I don't know what to do. I mean, I'm working now, I'm going to move to college, I don't want a fucking career, ugh. It's so hard to figure out what to do. |
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you think anyone truly knows what theywant to do in their life? seriously? uthink urthe onlylittle clueless bugger on this planet?....and those who are famousand rich and are yelling "oh i always wanted to be an actor, or arockstar since iwas 3" well um, didn't we all wanna be that at age 3? and a part-time astronaut too? come on, u have to remember that u cannot possibly control the direction your life takes by mapping your life out 50 years from now, filling it with wishes and dreams, take each day, dowhat u can with that 24 hours, (25hours for me) and then u r truly in control, whereuwanna go, what u wanna do is easy, pointing ur dick in the right direction and keeping it thereis hard |
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But it's not like I have any dreams or wishes, I think my life's going to suck and I'm going to work until I am old and then it will be over and I'll be dead |
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yes. that's exactly what i was trying to point out....that you are looking so far into your fantasy future(which doesn't help when having depressive tendencies) that you are not enjoying the little things inbetween, i woke up today andi heard a frikkin cow mooing, (yes, i live next to a farm, how great) i fuckin hatethesebastards mooing allnite, buttoday i enjoyed it, because it remindedme that i am alive, and able of doing whatever i want with my emotions, i am my own god |
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dude making music takes time. everyone is always shit at music fro a looong time when they start. everyone. always. the thing that seperates artists that "make is" and those who don't is simply whether or not the person has the durability and the love for the making process to stick it out until they get good enough for them to start loving their own tunes to bits (and then be confronted by a com[pletely new set of problems ie battling your ego and shit). basically most of the hard part is in the first few years, i reckon but if you actually feel liek it's difficult and it's work then it's likely that you're not enjoying it a whole lot ....and if you're not enjoying it you might end up giving it up liek my other friedns who used to make music did. |
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If you want to be like RJD2 #2 it might be worth learning to DJ and get a sampler you can sequence on rather than trying to make music on a pc... |
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or just get a tracker, make some basic tunes... or just use the sequencer in floops first and try the fancy knobs a bit... but i guess you already tried that eh... |
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buy a guitar |
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Surely you have read the Floops manual first? |
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That's your plan is it? :D |
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He he, note I said RJD2 not RDJ #2 :) |
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A typo I'm sure ;) |
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I have to say that Reason saved my creative life. I did my usual thing of chucking the instructions out of the window and just fiddling with stuff until something works but the real pain was trying to stop hitting the Delete button everytime I didn't like a track. Now I just leave it and come back now and again to tweak old stuff. Doing things solo is a major problem. It's always good to have another bod in the room to add something that'll turn that 5 hour intro into a great piece of music. |
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good...we need more quitters in the in the electronic-artist business...i'm acutally thinking of quitting IDM too and maybe start something instrumental instead |
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VAZ modular is what you want... the Fisher Price of music software ..... not! |
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Anyone tried Reaktor?? Man, that fried my brain for a while and the damn instruction booklet fell apart in my paws. |
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yeah i've got cubase and goat tracker, don't feel like learning how to use them. so i use soundedit! and real instruments! |
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i quit too, i put my last effort 'plski' up and that's enough |
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why though?? your track Path Crisis is very good IMO |
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'cause i dislike it myself, it's nothing special. just a lot of strings |
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and you know 'path crisis' is an anagram for 'this is crap' right? :P |
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oh come on! don't be so hard on your music! I myself am very much into strings so I like your tracks. It's difficult enough to come up with atmospheric and suitable chords and melodies IMO. |
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