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sorry folks but i´m just not happy with the lack of enthusiasm for the bonus CD of DYKS... When it came out i was like "bloody hell, Toms releasing a LIVE set from his favourite country to play in, Japan and it features loads of Go Plastic tracks tweaked to the extreme on his digital setup"..... . and sure enough when i heard it... it sucked me right into his angry world... being drawn into the depths with his pop cutups, Exploding Psychology, Redhot car and DYKS...then... letting a newer track drag us into his 3 GP heavyweights before launching the assault of "My fucking sound" and ending on the punching breather of track Angstrom Feck... pure genious to release us from his grasp with that killer tune. CMON THEN! |
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It is an exellent cd but some people can't get on with the shitty sound quality due to the lack of soundboards. Infact I'm gonna play it now. |
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every time you make a post about how excellent this cd is... i decide to give it another try and listen to it one more time. But i just cannot get into it. It's like Go Plastic, but not nearly half as good, with poor soundquality and lots of screaming people. I've said this before: i guess you just had to be there. |
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mind you, i dislike live-albums in general. The only one i regularly play is nirvana unplugged in ny. I have a couple of other live-albums by various artists. But they generally just sit on the shelf and do not get listened to :-p |
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I'm listining to it right now and I'm really enjoying it. |
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Yes I prefer studio albums,although anything with guitars in it sounds better live as the artist usually puts in a personal touch. |
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whats a soundboard? |
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laymans terms man! so by "he didn´t use a soundboard" people mean he didn´t record direct from his PC but recorded externally (getting the audience too)... ... i like the audience and Tom noises... it l ends atmosphere |
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I don't understand it either man,I just read it somewhere. |
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Yes he recorded it via microphone or whatever.Thats why you can here the audience and all the echoes/reverbs.Explaining the "tin-can" effect. |
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just like afx @ japan |
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itttts phunthashic! |
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This soundboard crap.... are people sort of "I say - if i wanted to hear some japanese folks screaming i would have hopped on the Leer jet and gone there myself. what does Mr. Jenkinson think he´s doing?" Its fucking live and full of energy people. the best, musically, you can be |
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well that's just it. It's all about the energy. Tom screaming, the way he plays the songs... it's all just for one purpose to make the whole experience as exciting as possible. I imagine it was fantastic if you were actually there, and i would love to see him live sometime. But if you take that exact same music and play it in your own room it's a whole different story. It's not exciting at all anymore to me. Just dull and tedious, he has taken all the subtlety out of the music. It sounds much more straightforward than Go Plastic itself. |
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fair enough. but i gots this yoke called imagination that, helped by the enrgy stored in the disc, transports me to the moment.......... Thank fuck i got that function turned on to full,,, thank fuck |
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"helped by the enrgy stored in the disc, transports me to the moment.......... " Yeah, you talked about that before. But does that also mean you enjoy the studio-albums less? I imagine you would find them too... i dunno... sterile? Or something? |
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"it's all just for one purpose to make the whole experience as exciting as possible. " hmm, i wouldnr agree with this totally :) i think he's screaming more because of the enjoyment itself rather to doinf a gig more exciteing...i actually never thought about how artists take the music they're playing at their gigs...for instance aphex is always calm (hardly ever shows excitment, on the other hand pusher seems really excited about it and totally gets into it) well that is just my opinion ofcourse |
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i wish i had seen one of them (or both :-p) live. "i think he's screaming more because of the enjoyment itself" Hm... well i could see how that could be true. If he gets so excited about the music he screams to let off some of his own energy. But -it's been a while since i listened to alive i. japan- doesn't he directly talk to the audience on there? I think he asks them something like: "was that loud enough for ya?"... or something. I don't remember exactly. But it really seemed to me like he was trying specifically to make the crowd go wild. I imagine screaming out of enjoyment would be more something like a simple: "YEAH! or something :-p |
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you have a point there its been a while since i listened it as well, but i got this idea that he really enjoys the stuff he's playing but aphex does this even better perhaps...i dont know how he is able to show that little (none) feelings while he's playing - especially when he's playing some hardcore music imagine him standing still for like an hour and playing totally mental music - people are like "what is wrong with him" - and then he waves to them or just gives them a look and the crowd goes even more mental :) |
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"standing still for like an hour and playing totally mental music" lol, i imagine that must look very weird yeah :-p And in that case i can see how pretty much anything he does will make the crowd go mental. |
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its interesting alright. deserving of a thread all on its own "Our fave artists emotion playing live" never have 2 artist been so different as AFX and SQuarepusher yet pack soo much energy in AFX: surrounded by friends usually but once he´s up there he´s a fixated craftsman paying little regard to the audience. i´ve seen him 8 times and 3 times he´s done a little fist-shaking at the crowd for 3 seconds Squarepusher... very kinetic, known to be a boozer. its a release for him it seems.. an outlet for his bundled up energy.... all his interviews reflect this and he has a history in live energetic bands... wheras AFX is the origional playing-for-mates, bedroom artist Lets face it chaps, there are no real surprises with these two. Always exciting though and always keep us on our toes with their passion. *wipes tear from eye |
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"he´s done a little fist-shaking at the crowd for 3 seconds " hahaha, and what a reaction he gets! but it really is weird - even if being stoned while playing (tho im pretty sure he isnt most of the time) he'd show some more feelings...i guess he's just good at controling himself |
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most laptop folks i´ve seen are just unemotional blank faces lit up by their 36bit truecolor screens..... Plaid, Russel Hassel, Phoenecia, Mike Dred, Icarus, cylob etc etc..... the most energetic i´ve seen are Bogdan, Fourtet, Squarepusher, Either way... it never detracts from a banging tune. Personally, i´d like to have a professional puppetshow moving to my beats on stage! |
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hey you forgot tim hiorthoy there...dont you remember him from sonar? i think he was using his laptop - he was all over the place |
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you mean Hecker...? i was too busy trippong on his sounds to notice.. but James Liddel was a fucking madman! ..... the craziest, sweatiest laptop artist i´ve seen.. a real showman, but into it too... for real |
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this to groups you've made "Plaid, Russel Hassel, Phoenecia, Mike Dred, Icarus, cylob" i dont find this stuff is pariculary danceable? on the other hand pusher and raczynski make me go crazy... |
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no, actually i do mean tim hiorthoy...he was playing in that basement(dont know how they named it) on saturday during day...where sir dupermann and jaga jazzist were also performing he was even far more energetic than raumschmiere was |
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huh, i saw liddel just from the door...it was waaay too crowded to get inthere im pretty sure tim hiorthoy was playing at the same time as liddel... |
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it was fucking great wasnñt it all? |
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it was ok...you know... |
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"tim hiorthoy...he was playing in that basement(dont know how they named it) on saturday during day..." fuck! You've seen him live?! (surely you mean Kim Hiorthoy?) What was it like? Did you talk to him afterwards? Was he showing projections with his artwork? Very cool tolstoyed :-) I envy you. In one of his book there is a story of how he visited amsterdam... if only i would have known he was in holland at that time :-p Then again, they say meeting your heros can only lead to dissapointment... so maybe it's all for the best. |
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silly me...yes its kim hiorthoy well, actually he was in my top 5 on saturday-and there was like +30 acts he was playing some pretty wicked music...not much alike any of his albums except for the synth sound-that must be like his trade mark i guess he was really going mental and jumping all over the stage - doing that the crowd was getting wild as well ofcourse it was totally unexpected as i always imagined him as being kind of timid (not sure why - perhaps because of his photos) i didnt speak with him...not sure what would've i asked him either (there was someone offering me backstage pass-but thats of no use to me as i have nothing to ask hehe) anyway, the place was so crowded...even if i wanted to talk to tim i think it would be pretty impossible i'll definitely keep my eyes opened if he comes around some place suitable :) "Then again, they say meeting your heros can only lead to dissapointment... so maybe it's all for the best." perhaps its better to meet artists in gigs with less audience...they mingle with the crowd after their gig, so that is a good chance to talk to them |
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