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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-23 16:47 [#00753981]
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Theres no such thing as individuality. Is there? There no he, or she, or them. Its just us. Its alway just been us. Everything else has been a lie. A way to control, a way to gain power. However power is limitless. Power is infinite. It alway has been infinite. The problem is some people think its not. Money is not power. Why have we lied to ourselves? Why do we continue to lie? Why? Why cant we just embrace life? Does it scare us? Does it scare us to know that there are infinite possibilites and we can do whatever we wish? Does it scare us to become God? Is it really that important? Over the horizon, it just keeps going. Forever. Its energy flowing, eternal blissfull energy. ever constant, ever moving, evermore... no matter who tell you otherwise, it'll still be there. Waiting, calling, unable to be tamed. Unable to be controlled. No army can kill it, no politics can tax it. It just goes on and on forever. Can you feel it? Its everywhere. Its everything. This is deeper than religion. It just is.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-23 16:48 [#00753985]
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get over it
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-23 16:49 [#00753987]
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too bad
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-23 16:50 [#00753990]
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If i could i would. But since we're stuck here lets make the best of it.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-23 16:51 [#00753993]
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are those retoric questions, or are you looking for answers?
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-23 16:52 [#00754001]
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they are questions everyone should ask themselves.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-23 16:53 [#00754004]
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is this a rhetorical question?
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-23 16:55 [#00754012]
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is it?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-23 16:56 [#00754014]
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actually not...if the answers are wanted i'll take time and reply on each of them :)
not today tho, as im going to bed now
but yeah, its a stupid world we live in
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-06-23 16:57 [#00754017]
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Reality is socially constructed, you PHOOL ! Is the nature of knowledge softer, more subjective, based on experience and insight, essentially personal.........fuck if I knews
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-23 16:58 [#00754018]
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thank you for understanding. They were a bit rhetorical, but I'd like to hear your answers anyway. When you have time, that is.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-23 17:00 [#00754025]
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400.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-23 17:01 [#00754027]
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i just noticed that :)
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2003-06-23 17:01 [#00754029]
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i know that no matter how nice and big my house could or how much money i could have in my bank account or how many nice, cool, expensive things i could have, i will always be unhappy. unhappy because i cant learn to like myself and i definately cant learn to like life. and you know...i could bitch about it eternally, but guess what, it wouldn't do a fucking thing. gripe about a "system" all you want, nothing is going to happen. the only thing you control is your perception.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-23 17:03 [#00754032]
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"I'm special. Just like everyone else."
"Theres no such thing as individuality"
am i missing something? :)
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-23 17:04 [#00754035]
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I've been trying to do that so bad recently. But everything that I know is based on 5 senses. Its kinda like: how am I to control my perception? It just how I percieve things. I can lie to myself? But that doesn't make it better.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-23 17:05 [#00754037]
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:D
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-23 17:05 [#00754039]
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Interaction is great. I think thats just what love is. Interaction between things.
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2003-06-23 17:18 [#00754087]
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well the thing i've learned about myself is...every since i've been little, i isolated myself from the world. years down the road, at this point in my life, i see that i'm just in the world, not part of it. so typically, my perception is that i do see how things work, but i just dont have to be part of them.
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-06-23 17:22 [#00754106]
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Futures made of virtual insanity now Always seem to, be govern'd by this love we have For useless, twisting, our new technology Oh, now there is no sound - for we all live underground
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-06-23 17:23 [#00754107]
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:: dances around being irresistibly cute ::
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-23 17:24 [#00754109]
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I must read this again when I'm sober.
Dont mind me, this is just a little note to myself to do something later.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-23 17:30 [#00754117]
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thats quit humourous considering your avatar.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-06-23 17:32 [#00754124]
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hit reload
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-23 17:40 [#00754138]
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okay
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-06-23 17:46 [#00754157]
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Or is this just a pisspoor attempt at sounding all poetic and philosophical?
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-23 18:05 [#00754206]
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just stating the facts sir.
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-06-23 19:15 [#00754334]
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we are all equal in death (ie. all living things must eventually succumb to the slow and creeping disease which has been installed in them since their very beginning).
as for life itself (or a physical form of existence, if you prefer), think of it as a form of hell of sorts each living creature and thing must experience in order to understand its place in the cosmic mosaic that is our universe.
as i noted in a post for a different topic, we are as much a reflection of god as god is a reflection of us - indeed, there is no individuality, only a preception of it (aided by a physical existence and a sense of self-consciousness). one can assume (from whichever standpoint - philosophical, spiritual or scientific) that in death we shed the illusion of individuality and immerse ourseves in the process of creation on the most fundamental level.
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-23 19:16 [#00754336]
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You'll never get anywhere thinking like that stoner.
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-06-23 19:21 [#00754340]
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get back to me on that when you're 90 years old and on your deathbed. if you have not asked yourself what constitutes the reality you find yourself in and how the process of life and creation functions, you will be all the more unprepared and afraid to transcend life once the moment comes (and it comes to us all, sometimes ever so unexpectedly, so best to be prepared)
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-23 19:25 [#00754342]
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Although it is true, we are our own worst enemy.....
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-06-23 19:26 [#00754344]
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It's astrounding the fantasies we come up with to tell ourselves just because annihilation is unthinkable.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-06-23 19:29 [#00754345]
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Astounding, even. :D
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-23 19:35 [#00754350]
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you guys are the best :)
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-06-23 19:35 [#00754351]
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neither death nor annihilation (if you're talking in U.S.-instigated all-out nuclear holocaust terms) is not unthinkable at all - it's merely a fact of existence - it's inevitable, and all we can do is accept it.
remember, the only things in life which are cerain (at least for a human being) are: death & taxes
it's not a fantasy to state that upon death our body progressively disintegrates into the most basic of its constituent parts, which then in turn enrich the soil, provide nutrition to plants, trees, etc. and contribute to the unending process of creation. so in some sense, we do transcend death, although this doesn't mean a conscious survival of the "self".
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-06-23 19:39 [#00754359]
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THATS CRAZY TALK
Everyone knows when you die the Plaid LemurWombat takes your soul into His Gunny Sack of Paradise.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-06-23 19:40 [#00754361]
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I forgot: PBUH
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-23 19:42 [#00754362]
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so are you saying this is hell?
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-23 19:54 [#00754367]
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Life is a simple concept, humans have over complicated it to such an extent that we have lost touch. I don't think there is any way back for the majority of the earths population as we are moving too fast in our current course to see what we are heading towards, or more importantly away from.............
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-06-23 19:58 [#00754369]
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yes, more or less, in the sense that we cannot transcend or alter our reality for a time being - determinism is the proper term to be used in this instance - from birth until death, our existence has been causally determined from the very outset (the point at which the physical universe begun).
however, some people who have had near-death experiences have reported that in the brief period when they transcended physical existence, they had a realization that they too have an ability to construct entire universes from the most fundamental building blocks of matter. also, some have reported a sense of awareness of their place in the cosmic puzzle, gaining knowledge that the constituent parts of the universe indeed create a whole.
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-06-23 20:02 [#00754370]
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i agree. i went off on a crazy tangent there. we all know that if our bodies are not mummified upon death and our spirit is not catered to by being provided a resting place in the form of a pyramid, we will not be able to experience the splendours of etarnal life - egiptology 101, folks, nothing more to it! all this is to say that even in death, the upper-crust filthy-rich bastards get a one up over the destitute who can't afford eterlan living. =)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-06-23 20:06 [#00754375]
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Is true! Nile wrote a song about it - The Blessed Dead -
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-06-23 20:09 [#00754378]
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is nile some doom-y black metal outfit from, say, norway or suchplace?
"We Shall Never Be The Blessed Dead" - damn The Man! fucking capitalist burgeoise corporate whore ruling class pigs!!! =)
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-06-24 13:13 [#00755285]
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I was just joking btw, it felt like a funny reply at the time :P
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-24 13:21 [#00755301]
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it's like the time i was a firre ant. oh good days
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