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don't you think that quite a lot of "classic" albums everyone seems to love are overrated? Radiohead - OK Computer Nirvana - Nevermind Pink Floyd - The Wall Autechre - LP5 Frank Zappa - We're Only In It For The Money etc... all very good albums but excessively considered as masterpieces in my opinion... maybe at the time they were released, they were revolutionary or much better than the actual production? |
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but the wall!!! such diversity. such emotion. such despairingly joyful songs! |
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Some find EP7 a masterpiece....I don't |
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Autechre's masterpiece is Chiastic Slide I reckon. and envane |
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But do you not think they are overrated, because they are so popular....thats why people know them so well |
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mozart ! |
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i think reprazents new forms is very over-rated: the singles were good but the album is shit, attempting to be complex and jazzy but ultimately fruitless. also the beatles are over-rated. how many 3 chord songs with nursery-rhyme lyrics have they made? they are the worlds' biggest bandwagon that people feel they have to be on. i think mu-ziqs rephlex albums are overated, too formulaic- all the songs are the same. wouldn't mind but its a poor formula to begin with... |
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Yea, of all of those listed I think The Wall really IS a masterpiece. David Gilmour's solos are some of the best in rock history, not just wanking but extending and emotionally explicating the lyrics. Fuck I have a sudden urge to listen to some Pink Floyd - |
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and sulk in your bedroom?! |
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envane is top ;) i've been praising it for years, but people seem to ignore it. good call 303! |
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David Gilmour is my primary influence with the guitar. I used to spend months locked up in my room stoned, and playing the whole of the Wall. It has a special place for me |
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more specifically Laughing Quarter is, imo |
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good show jingle. you are a man of taste! I love that Draun Qrtr tune, especially when the strings come in.... |
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Yes Envane is also my favourite autechre release. |
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i have done some envane- like tracks, but they need tweeking. i'm also trying to find some good acapella raps to scrunch into some remixes of the envane tracks: any suggestions where to find? |
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eXXailon > about ep7. if you're not in the exact right mood it's boring crap, but if you are it is very good - though i agree, i wouldn't call it a masterpiece either. i don't know, about The Wall - maybe it will grow on me, but for now i have mixed feelings about it. sometimes the music doesn't seem to fit the lyrics at all (Run Like Hell, In The Flesh, Waiting For The Worms...), and some just seem to be musically filler to make the story go well (Bring The Boys Back Home, Vera...) - it still has its gems (Another Brick In The Wall - all parts, Young Lust, Confortably Numb, Hey You, Goodbye Cruel World (so simple and yet so emotional it almost makes me cry)...), but a lot of it just sounds average to me. too much for it to be a masterpiece of a concept album to me, especially after having listened to The Downward Spiral for example (i know TDS has been inspired by The Wall so it's not fair to compare!) =/ ) |
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give blood |
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The Wall is definitely overrated, full of filler. And Waters' bullshit can just get so insufferable. I wonder what The Wall would sound like with Syd Barrett at the helm... imagine him on stage singing the sad songs from that album... |
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roger waters is a lyrical master who has had a profound effect on my psyche. |
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Aphex Twin - Classics, naturally. what a load of shit that album is - aside from AB.I and Digeridoo |
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while classics isn't exactly dinner party music, get someone to play it in a club and you realise they are pure buzz tracks: people shit themselves when they hear them, partially cos they are fans but mainly cos they are proper seismic tracks |
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maybe i'll give it another listen. it's been on the shelf since the day i bought it. could NOT stand it. i've got more tollerance for the noisier tracks now :) |
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speaking about ae, I think "tri repetae" will be seen as the classic before EP 7 I think. and yes, that would be overrating it. |
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I can barely sit through the whole Tri Repetae without getting bored. But I agree a lot of people will always see it as their highwater mark. Even Allmusic gave it the highest score of all their releases. |
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you're really pushing your luck putting autechre next to radiohead, pink floyd and nirvana. f**king watch it mate. |
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;) |
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I thought it was a strange inclusion in the list too :D |
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i think everything by autechre is overrated |
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ain't no filler on The Wall at all in my opinion... that used to be my favorite album of all time, and I do think each song is pretty fantastic... I love it, this it works amazingly well as a whole, and as separate songs... and Ok Computer, come on, it's amazing... definitely one of the top albums of the 90's... I do think Nevermind is overrated... just a personal thing... and LP5, well that's one of my least favorite Autechre albums... |
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i also think people have conditioned themselves to like autechre simply for the reason no-one else likes them. so there. nice to be 'unique' isn't it? :P |
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regarding classics, you left off the best song on that album, and one of aphex twins best songs ever: polynomial c. ok computer is a tried and true masterpiece. as far as the wall is concerned, i don't care for that album or any pink floyd post wish you were here. pink floyd really wasn't good without syd barret. the beatles have an entire line of albums that i think are classics but i can only enjoy on an academic level of admiration, but not as actual music that does anything for me emotionally. |
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floyd rule! |
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I think Animals is overrated by the people that think it's underrated. |
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frank zappa has a "classic album"? since when. haha. anyways, nirvana nevermind is not that good, i mean it was ok quite a while ago but nirvana is not my cup of tea. I like the wall a lot but I can understand what you mean. "the beatles have an entire line of albums that i think are classics but i can only enjoy on an academic level of admiration, but not as actual music that does anything for me emotionally. " I agree 100%, i dont enjoy very many beatles tracks. concerning afx - classics: I used to HATE this when i first got but I love it now, you have to listen to it in a different context then his later work, I like every track on classics come to think of it, definately listen to it again sometime. |
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i dislike that fucking song from the wall... you know with the children's choir... blah! OK Computer: classic for a reason Lp5: who says Lp5 is classic? (well it is pretty damngood) Nevermind: undeniable but In Utero is better... but here's my diss to a "classic": fucking Ulrich Schnauss... everyone is in love with his first album.... but i think it sounds like it was made on a fisher-price keyboard... it sounds bloody campy... and it's not that i don't get the CCO thing, i love pretty much everything else on CCO... but Schnauss i give one big: "Meh" to... |
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well, its nice that you think that based on the fact that youve talked to every single person who listens to autechre on the entire planet, earthleakage. top notch research, im sure you have all the evidence to back it up including quotes and various opinions and psychological workings of all their minds. |
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wow, i totally hear you on the ulrich schnauss business! 100%. anyhow, i don't think those albums are necessarily classics because they're the best works the artists have done, just that they were the right thing at the right time and something was changed because of them. (like...I wonder if Kid A would have come out the same way without LP5!) |
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did anyone see "classic albums" last night - never mind the bollocks. it maybe a classic, but its not rreally THAT good at all. |
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do you not think too many people like autechre? they seems to be starrterr IDM. like Busted is to punk. :) (ok ok not THAT bad, no rreally not that bad, but you get my jist) |
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earthleakage > it was because it's an idm board! i know there is no comparison between Ae and rock classics, but lp5 is often considered as an essential idm album isn't it? (well, a bit less since Confield is out maybe) : ) |
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dontcha think topics like this are a bit silly? i mean no ones gonna agree on whats under/overrated are they |
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Spacecadet > if someone will tell WHY (s)he thinks this album is, or is not, a masterpiece, it can help people making their opinions of it... sometimes there are things you don't discern by yourself (or not on first listen), and you may change your appreciation of the album when someone makes you notice those details you missed... |
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everything is over-rated except for jingle who is heavily under-rated; he is an instant and eternal classic, and he is hung like a mutant donkey. nuff said... |
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imo rdj album is overrated I myself used to overrate it |
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I never got why Nevermind is always placed higher than In Utero. |
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i hate the term "overrated" |
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i will now turn your head into a lob of slime for mentioning busted. period. |
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