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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2003-06-14 22:01 [#00740928]
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and i posted it on the radiohead messageboard and got no response, so maybe its a bad idea but i dont know about all them anyways...but ill copy it here, if anyone thinks people would benifit from it let me know
---- to put on their minidiscs and things..... well im in canada and i got a protected copy but i managed to get through that and was able to get it onto a md, i dont know whats is with the protection, i mean it doesnt really do anything at all, every ripper i tried would rip it but at 9 seconds (at sector 702) in 3 songs there was a glitch . but then i tried it on an older cd drive i had and it rips fine...anyways its still stupid.....and
cd-rs are very cheap, and sending them as a normal letter is very cheap too, i sent a cd to europe a while ago and it was less then a dollar, although it took a long time. what about if people get together, and send copies of clean versions of the disc out to people who allready own it, but want a clean copy too, although i wouldnt really mind sending people the cd if they havnt allready bought it...thats not the point here. anyways so you sign up to the list to get a copy sent to you and then you get it, copy it, if you can , and send it on to someone else on the list, and it could be organized and everything so that you send your copy to people that are geographically close to you, so its like a big network of copy protection free hail to the thief cds flowing across the world....if you wished you could send out two copies, or make two copies and send them to the person, and then they give one of the copies to a friend who also has a protected copy and then they send it on aswell...and when you sign up you have promise you allready own it and that you dont just want a free cd. if anyone is interest, reply , or contact me.
alibosworth@gmx.co.uk
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-06-14 22:09 [#00740933]
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ok i don't know what the hell is going on so fuck this
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2003-06-14 22:25 [#00740938]
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oh.....just a thaught i had about the new radiohead album.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-15 04:35 [#00741074]
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you copy - send to me - i copy - send to john doh - john doh copys - sends to mr X - mr X copies - sends to ect ect...
it would neverr worrk in prractice.
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2003-06-15 04:44 [#00741080]
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why not? i mean ...well i understand that if people are lazy and dont want to contribute.....but if people were into it...
its sort of a simpler version of this http://1000journals.com/
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-15 04:46 [#00741083]
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why dont we just pass a law that wipes out ugly people and hails naked sexy ladies. Thats more interesting
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-15 04:48 [#00741086]
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that's the prroblem though. in theorry fine, but in rreal life people arre just lazy.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-15 04:53 [#00741094]
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im not lazy, i ... fuck it i cant be bothered to tell you
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2003-06-15 04:54 [#00741095]
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yeah well ....i guess i just have too much faith in people.....who like radiohead.
but would you pass it on?
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-15 04:58 [#00741102]
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no. but mine worrks fine.
i'm not trrying to rrubbish yourr idea herre, just telling you the trruth.
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2003-06-15 05:04 [#00741109]
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i guess i mean if yours didnt work fine. does yours work fine + is clean. or your devices just dont worry about the protection, ive found it really depends on the drive....some are not affected at all...
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-15 05:06 [#00741113]
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well my computerr is brroke so i don't know if it will play herre. but its worrks on my CD playerr and to me that is all that matterrs. but maybe if you got enough people who had a fucked up one, then it might worrk.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-15 05:08 [#00741115]
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well if you send me a copy... then i'll ...erm..... oh yeah, thank you for the cd.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-15 05:08 [#00741116]
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i'm also one of them "scarred to give my addrress out" people
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2003-06-15 05:10 [#00741120]
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well yeah...really its just the fact that its not very reliable in terms of playback...like it works on some, id say most audio only cd players i have.....doesnt work on most of my cd drives....which means i cant very easily make a digital copy to minidisc. ...and you know i wouldnt feel very good about lending the cd to a friend (if i did such things) knowing it may or may not play properly for them....its just not very nice....but ive made a clean copy now so everything is fine for me....i was just thinking about it on a larger scale
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-15 05:14 [#00741126]
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totally. it's a nice idea. and quite a good one.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-15 05:58 [#00741179]
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how strange that people on the radiohead messageboard didn't reply to your idea of ripping and copying the new radiohead cd and sending it to others so they won't have to buy the original cd
i mean, don't they want to save some money?
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-15 06:00 [#00741183]
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hahahahahahahah a GOOD idea???????? um, ok. wait until thom yorke shows up in your bedroom dressed as a voodoo priestess. THEN youll think its a good idea.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-06-15 06:21 [#00741198]
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Okay, i see what you mean. My discman does have problems playing HTTT. (according to the manual, it has all the symptons of trying to listen to a CD-R that isn't burnt properly... it must be the protection methinks)... it pisses me off. Copy-protection is fine, but this is just ridiculous. The reason i buy cd's is to listen to them, after all.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-15 06:24 [#00741200]
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Reuters Arrticle:
"NEW YORK (Reuters) — As major record labels roll out a new breed of compact disc designed to prevent Napster-style piracy, Dutch consumer electronics maker Philips, CO-creator of the compact disc, is refusing to play along. The new discs now making their way into music stores in the United States and Europe contain countermeasures that prevent playback on computers and, in some unintended cases, normal CD players as well. "What we've seen so far is troublesome and cumbersome," said Gerry Wirtz, general manager of the Philips copyright office that governs the compact disc trademark. "We worry (the labels) don't know what they're doing."
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2003-06-15 06:39 [#00741211]
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morton: if you had read (and understood) my poorly worded post, you would know that the intent is to provide people who have allready spent money on the album, with a clean version free of defects......my intent was to provide REAL cd version of the album to those who have corrupt and purchased versions....as you probably know, these copy protected version do not actually comply with the compact disc standard, they are not technically cds....and such they dont have the little compact disc logo anywhere on them that all true cds must have.....infact theres a bit of a thing because on the copy protected version of limited edition in australia or something it does infact have the words 'compact disc'..i guess the same artwork was sent to all manufacturers, copy protection version or not, and someone forgot to take off those words.
i do realize that it would be fairly easy for someone to say that they own a protected version just to get someone to send them a cd....but anyone that cares enough to want a real cd copy rather then spend a little bandwidth to download mp3s, which is alot easier and faster then waiting around for a cd, and who doesnt just goto the store and buy a copy....umm...thats not written how i mean it..but...well you know....it would be pretty strange
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-15 06:46 [#00741213]
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i get it, i didn't read your initial post very well indeed :D
and congrats you have 100 points :)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-06-15 06:47 [#00741214]
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Go philips!
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uzim
on 2003-06-15 06:58 [#00741220]
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i almost wanted to buy HTTT after downloading it, but when i saw it was copy-protected i changed my mind... fuck this (i'm glad they're warning us when they're copy-protected!) i don't want to buy something which has voluntary bugs in it!!! (especially since i don't have a good cd-player, they're all fucked - i have 3 cds i had to convert in mp3 since my new player doesn't play them right anymore) that's crazy °_°
i hope this copy-protecting decreases the sales, so they won't put it on every cd... hope in some years it won't be ALL cd's that will be copy-protected. then we'll be fucked (though i think it'll probably happen, oh well... let's profit from our last years of freedom until music gets totally fucked raaahhhh no future 1984 is near) -_-
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-15 07:06 [#00741227]
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i just hope they fall off a cliff
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-06-15 07:06 [#00741228]
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Only one person needs to find a way around the copy-protection, and it'll be shared over the internet anyway.
And meanwhile the people who are being hurt by the copy-protection are the ones who actually still go out and buy the cd :-/
I'm against piracy, and i'm all for recordcompanies trying to do something against it... but this is not the right way. It seems like they are just experimenting with various copyprotections... all at our expenses! They should properly test it before even releasing it on the market. As soon as they find a system that allows for a cd to be played everywhere, but that doesn't allow itself to be copied... only then should they start using it.
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uzim
on 2003-06-15 07:08 [#00741230]
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majors are dumb.
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2003-06-15 12:03 [#00741597]
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their idea is stupid.....i dont think a protection exists that "allows for a cd to be played everywhere, but that doesn't allow itself to be copied." basically its like people trying to hide their html code from the viewer......theres lots of ways to distract them , to make it seem as if they dont have access to the data, but the fact remains, if your browser is able to display the page....then it has been downloaded to your computer and there is someway to access it. i really dont believe the industry will find any good way that fits in with the current system of cds. all the technics have been really pretty silly....and the ones that are most effective are the ones that do not actually work (ie you CAN NOT play them on any normal cd player) the fact remains that your cd player expects a certain format of relativly raw digital data to be sitting there nice and plain on the cd.....if that data exists properly, it can easily be extracted, if it is not there properly, like is the current case.....then not everything can play it....like is the current case, which is bullshit, and unnacceptable....i mean the record companies are just sort of flailing and fronting to seem like they got it all under control.....
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uzim
on 2003-06-15 12:09 [#00741601]
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it's just making it worse.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-06-15 12:14 [#00741604]
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i don't see why they should have the right to be able to limit you from copying or ripping the cd?
it's fair use to backup the music in case the cd gets wrecked..after all, you should be paying for the music, and the rights to own it whenever, and keep it however you want, not just paying for a flimsy piece of plastic.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-15 17:36 [#00741988]
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just bear in mind that the band i'm sure had nothing to do with this copyright stuff.. they're pro-mp3, it's their label who want to make up for all the losses suffered from cd burning and mp3 downloading (and then not buying). so if you really like radiohead, don't punish the band for their label's wrongheadedness. also, you're missing out on some really great packaging.
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2003-06-15 17:39 [#00741992]
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listen...please read the initial post.....and the other ones of mine if you need clarifaction....i am a huge radiohead devotee and have been for years i have every release that i can get my hands on.....
quote from above:
"that the intent is to provide people who have allready spent money on the album, with a clean version free of defects......my intent was to provide REAL cd version of the album to those who have corrupt and purchased versions...."
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